Posts by Pete George
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Russell Brown,
Dotcom doesn’t appear to have instigated it
Not sure who instigated it at this meeting but looked like a managed crowd and it looked like Dotcom was an integral part of it and reveling in it. And Harawira and Harre are also an integral part of it while the complain about 'smears' and 'offensive' comments from Davis and Key.
This is how the video went at that event:
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!Hey! How are you doing?Are you ready for a revolution?
Are you read to take down the Government?
Are you ready to extradite John Key?Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!This year you all have to vote. You all have to vote – you have to make it happen!
I’m, going to come down there, and I’m going to give every single one of your hearts!
I love you guys! Thank you.Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!That video was posted by the Internet Party on Youtube. There seems to be quite a bit of instigating and active involvement by Dotcom, Harawira and Harre. This is a totally different way of political campaigning in New Zealand.
Chris Trotter has been a bit of a fan of the revolution by any means but he commented on this:
Mass enthusiasm for a German politician?
What could possibly go wrong?
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to ,
Harawira has claimed that Kelvin Davis is cozying up to National.
“National has been directly responsible for driving up unemployment, homelessness, ill health, and poverty for Maori right across the north” said Harawira. “I’m trying to get rid of them and Kelvin Davis and his crew are doing deals with them!”
“I’m gutted, and Maori in Tai Tokerau will be seriously troubled that Davis and his mates are cozying up to the people who have caused so much damage to our communities”
“And don’t buy this rubbish about me having more money because of Kim Dotcom either” said Harawira.
Hone the hypocrite making things up.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Tinakori,
“If there’s any truth to what I have seen today, then somebody’s head should roll” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira.
“I’m gutted, and Maori in Tai Tokerau will be seriously troubled that Davis and his mates are cozying up to the people who have caused so much damage to our communities”
"Internet Party leader Laila Harre is outraged the Prime Minister has called Kim Dotcom her 'sugar daddy'."
But Harawira and Harre seem comfortable sharing a stage with the person (who said he was going to set up a party and step back and leave them to it) manipulating crowds like this, using them for his own political, legal aims and self aggrandisement .
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Keir Leslie,
How many in that crowd do you think are expressing a political view of their own and who are getting excited about voting?
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Should an eyebrow or two start to raise over what is happening with Internet Mana? Is this what Laila wants at the Helensville meeting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YL4UBS_m23wShe is presumably ok with what is happening at other meetings she is a major part of.
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It's not unusual for candidates to be excluded from electorate forums if my experience is typical. I've been not invited to candidate meetings presumably deliberately - other meetings manage to contact all candidates.
And media can be very selective of what candidates they include in debates. I took Radio NZ to task last year for picking only half the candidates and they said more candidates did not fit their format.
When I said picking candidates with higher profiles guaranteed some would keep a profile advantage, and that a public broadcaster should provide equal opportunity democracy they got quite shitty with me (a Wellington manager).
Democracy is not even handed in many ways and there's not much most potential candidates can do about it.
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Hard News: Dotcom: Further news of the unlikely, in reply to Alex Coleman,
Alex, how about I speak however I like and not care about your routine, whatever it is.
If you're on a crusade to get everyone to "just speak for themselves" on political blogs you have a wee challenge. But if you disagree with what I say why don't you just say so? Or just say what you think. Or whatever.
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Another side to the story:
The head of Immigration has rejected suggestions Kim Dotcom's residency was approved as part of a United States move to make it easier to extradite him to face charges there.
Dotcom believes US authorities wanted to keep him here to make it easier to extradite him on internet piracy and copyright infringement charges. He has long claimed the Government was acting at the behest of the American film industry but has never offered proof.
But in an exclusive interview, Immigration chief executive Nigel Bickle said that from Immigration’s point of view he had seen no evidence of that and it was Dotcom’s advisers who had called for a fast decision in his case.
‘‘Mr Dotcom was represented by a very good immigration adviser, who was rightly asking questions ... ‘why is it taking so long making a decision? Mr Dotcom’s like a lot of these individuals – many countries are courting them. Could you hurry up and make a decision’.’’
Bickle said if that was what Dotcom’s advisers were saying ‘‘that seems to be the complete opposite to a conspiracy theory that says the NZ Government was somehow orchestrating bringing him into New Zealand so he could be extradited to the US’’.
Bickle said then-immigration minister Jonathan Coleman had not been involved in the decision to grant Dotcom permanent residency, and the call was made by an official.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10267420/Immigration-boss-rejects-Dotcom-residency-claims
This morning's story seems less weird now too.
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3 News has Dotcom's bomb threat online now:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Dotcom-prepares-to-drop-political-bomb/tabid/1607/articleID/352793/Default.aspx -
Dotcom has confirmed today that he will have a town hall event on Monday 15th September and drop a bomb that he claims will discredit John Key.
That's a high stakes risk, it could backfire in part.There are some who want Key and National out of Government and don't care how, the end justifies any means. But Dotcom is not trusted by others. And there are some who detest his extravagant manipulation of our politics and detest his keenness to destroy the political careers of anyone who he thinks deserves his wrath.