Posts by Bart Janssen
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Up Front: First, Come to Your Conclusion, in reply to 3410,
The thing about this thread that strikes me is the enormous gaps in my knowledge.
Some of those gaps are disturbingly filled now.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to nzlemming,
the ravings of L. Ron Hubbard
You read those , dear boy that's taking things a bit far.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Jonathan King,
I suggest the problems start when people believe these stories to be true!
Nope that's missing the point. Some of the stories whether true or false espouse decent moral behaviour. Some don't.
Very many folks use the stories that promote decent "good" behaviour to help them led decent "good" lives. That parts of the texts they use are bollocks or even downright evil doesn't appear to stop them ignoring those bits and get on with good lives.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Simon Grigg,
Or selective. The morality that some feel they derive from their religion is only achieved by sidestepping the bits that are no longer acceptable.
That isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Since for many people their religion is a major source of their happiness then that's fine by me. It may be inconsistent and illogical, I may find it ludicrous to take moral guidance in any way from those texts but that doesn't stop the vast majority of religious folk from leading decent moral lives based (selectively) on those texts.
The idea that by following the text you are automatically moral is the real problem. Because that is demonstrably wrong and in many cases falls into the category of "evil". Danielle is going to draw us a Venn diagram.
But the fact that some of the texts are wrong doesn't stop many people relying on some of the texts to help them be good. For them they don't have to accept or reject the whole text, they can set aside some parts and use the rest for their own benefit.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Danielle,
Ya see now I would describe someone paying attention to the gay bits and basing their behaviour on them as, "evil", they may not have a gun but still evil.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Paul Campbell,
they can also include the software widget to let you type macrons
They do, my Mac allows me to show character palette (right click on the little flag) and select all sorts of weird symbols. Most of which I have no idea how to use properly.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Bart Janssen,
different smell that you would consciously notice.
Bah too slow to edit, should be - wouldn't consciously notice
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Simon Grigg,
Either you buy into these brutal bronze age and/or desert tribe morals and teachings or you dismiss them. There is no half way point surely. You can't pick and chose the 'word' as the times require.
Of course people can and do. Religious texts are used by many folks to guide and support them through life. The problem is not the texts themselves but the people who chose to use such writings to justify actions that are evil.
The vast majority of people who use those texts (selectively) use them to justify a moral and decent life. I'm not going to demand they stop doing that because one chapter or another in the text is plainly stupid, because they've already learned to ignore the stupid bits.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Che Tibby,
early settlers just had a weird vibe about them, apparently
They probably smelled funny. And no I'm not being snarky, they almost certainly ate a different diet and had significantly different genes both of which would make them smell different. The genetic difference would give them different pheromones which would be a different smell that you would consciously notice. Hence a subconscious awareness of a difference.
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Hard News: The witless on the pitiless, in reply to Martin Lindberg,
smorgasbord
mmmm lunch