Posts by Spinner
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the daily show et al make no claims of telling the absolute truth...they make it quite clear that they are making entertainment albeit with a political message....that bloated liar moore did what he did in that sequence not to entertain but to decieve!!!! theres plenty of other examples of the lies and manipulation of fact that moore has indulged in that quite frankly need not be gone into as it is boring.... if your getting your political infromation and opinions from the likes of him then thats perhaps his one saving grace. By getting an important message to the "masses" who are unable to do the reading/thinking to work it out for themselves....i.e morons!!! However.....it dosent excuse stooping to the same level as those he decries and accuses of themselves lying and decieving and manipulating the public.....
as for CD pricing.......to quote the old saying.....change your dealer!!!!......and im guessing the term you were looking for was "cavalier"
"and that there attitude is why you don't deserve to have em in your country. they're not doing it cos the think you deserve a free show mate,they're doing it cos they believe what they're doing is good, worthy of the attention they get. rich in any other country, mc donalds wage here."
1.good i never was a fan
2.if they think they are worthy of the attention then they got plenty of it....whether they are worthy of $$$ is up to the fans...and if that prooves lacking then its up to the taxpayer funded agencies..and if not then perhaps they were mistaken with their original assesment of their worth...natural selection would appear to be at work
3. they did go to another country...sold out and changed their name to be more commercially acceptable etc...didnt work out so now they are back getting govt assistance.....res ipsa loquitor!!!!
yes i at times enjoy my job....tho by and large i merely acknowledge its better than many!!!.....But im definitely in it for the money and the freedom of lifestyle the nature of the work affords me!! im one of those suckers shoving shit into boxes long after talent has "left the building"....crap stella from the band ryder in hand!!!....i dont begruge that... just trying to point out its a shit job at times!!!
home again was voted by a limited representative population of respondents to a poll...many of which no doubt were lurching around the viaduct basking in the refelected glory of "our boys" in team NZ...(the same "bloody boat race")....or sitting in some god awfull kiwi pub in london....watching same said vile floating indulgence
isnt...all this "expecting acknowledgement" by bands somewhat akin to the archive "expecting" their copies.....
i dont expect anything from musicians....they owe me nothing.....the same way they are owed nothing just for creating something...whatever its artistic value is.....its great they do get something in return but if thats their only motivation then they can "expect" to be either disappointed or play the game and fork over the miserable 2 cds!!
art on its own can and should have nothing to do with $$$$ artists should be producing works in order to express themselves or perhaps motivate or "move" its recipient/audience....but in reality the $$$ are needed to facilitate its existance even if its just to "make a living"....once $$$ do become involved you have a transaction.....therefore some form of commercial activity or "industry".....
whats the big deal about such a small "tax" to keep the game going???
were talking about "releases" here arent we??....copies of ones artistic output that is produced in order to hopefully make some $$$ not as a public service....as for any glaring holes in my addled logic....its spitfire# 6 now....whats your excuse??
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as for Mr Moores lies.... as im happily ensconsed on a couch and onto my fifth "Spitfire" (http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/advertising/index.htm) i cant be bothered to do any "hard" thinking or googling etc but just off the top of my increasingly murky head there is the well documented re-editing in bowling for columbine that took Charlie Hestons rant of "...from my cold dead hands" completely out of context and insinuated that he had made that brain fart immediately following the columbine shootings....Personally im in agrrement with the intent and message of moores exposure of the inequities and nightmares of modern society however i abhor the hypocricy of using outright lies just to make such a point.....however machiavelli would be proud im sure!!! Also see how open to scrutiny or interview the inane cap wearing tosser is....theres a good doco doing the film festival rounds at the moment...saw it last week in Fremantle so im guessing its in the auckland festival
and yes i do work in the "industry".....have done for 20 yrs now, Film, TV, Music, Theatre, Opera...the lot.....so i am well aquainted with the bitching, moaning, self promoting, hand out seeking denizens of said industries.....i am fully in agreement with govt financial support of the "arts"...however i constantly witness that money being pissed against walls by all sectors of the community not just the administrators....that aside, to resent having to make the pitifull return to the "hand that feeds" of a couple of mass produced units of ones commercial output is pathetic and selfish!!
and quite frankly if Shihad are "keen" enough to continue persuing a career that paid only $400 a week at their "peak" then they are hopefully not in it for the money (kudos to them), and if they are in it for the $$$ then they would appear sadly deluded and desperate!!! I personally get paid more than that for a days work on events they were, and are, part of....and im just a shit kicker tech-geek!
".....then we have to accept a certain level of funding because it simply can't sustain the costs of operating to the level we want it to go."
.....well then take that the next step and accept that a small price to pay for such public funding is a responsibility to fork over a couple of CD or whatever to the same people that forked out the funding in the first place.....the NZ public!!!as for costs for a cd i was meaning to indicate the cost to a musician/artist etc of handing over a couple of units to the archive..its not a lost sale....its just a CD with a few Os and 1s burnt on it....head down to the local kamakooza industries outlet and buy a spindle of 50......retail less than a dollar per disc!!!
Yes art dosent need industry to exist but if you want to make some $$$ (or a living) from it good luck doing so without it some "industry"
even my ale addled brain can see the glaring holes in your illogic!!!
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ahhh no he LIED and in doing so scored a bit of an own goal!!.....bit of editing and hey presto!!!!....sure the point he was trying to get across was legitimate but his methods such as re-editing and his lack of following a chronological sequence of events in his films did more damage than good to the cause than the "socialist weasel" ever managed....George dubya manages to say the truth on the very odd occaision but that dosent mean im going to take on face value a word the evil bastard has to say!!!!
As for your "chip on the shoulder" "world owes me a living" bleating....sheesh get a life! The amount of $$$ that the local entertainment "industry"gets far out weighs the cost of having to hand over a couple of cds...they cost less than a dollar in terms of real physical unit cost...and quite frankly im sure there is plenty sitting in the archives that will be lucky to get even that once they are relegated to thier rightfull place in the warehouse bargin bins....they should feel lucky to be even wanted in a national archive!!!
the term is "Show Business" not "Show Art":)
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i really thought we had all worked out that michael moore was a cringe inducing embarrasment and pretty much all out LIAR quite some time ago!?!?