Posts by mark taslov
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<quote>I'm concerned that this is how 'justice' is decided.<quote>
I'm concerned that this is how anything is decided.
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consensus non-democracy
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2507879/China-retreats-from-web-filtering-plan
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yet you are convinced a five year plan is a bad thing because it's called a five year plan and at some point in history some people had some bad five year plans, so the whole notion could only be suggested with tongue in cheek.
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As I mentioned Since you clearly think there are better forms of Government than that which we could for the sake of argument call 'Western Democratic', how about you provide some examples of governmental forms you think are better, or 'don't bother'.
You have conveniently placed all the many variations of democracy into one shoebox. This self satisfied complacence is of what benefit? Basically do your own search. I'm not the one saying democracy is the best, you are. You Rich are saying democracy is best, and if I don't agree with you I can fuck off or I'm trolling. As if better is some all encompassing quantifiable concept. Better in what respect? human rights? economically? technologically? The health system? environmentally? Ask an answerable question and I'll answer it.
What kind of answer are you looking for?
The Vietnamese system? And then you disagree and then we argue?
just bring this up at your next "4 legs good 2 legs bad club meeting" and I'm sure they'll all agree with you Rich Lock. -
5 year plans is not a good phrase to support an argument that democracy doesn't allow central planning. 5 year plans were not good planning.
Ah yeah i see, the wording, sorry. Arguably soome were come weren't. I wasn't making an argument that democracy doesn't allow five year planning ie India's five year plans, South Korea's five year plans. I was saying that 3 years is a very short time to be raising a fist at (specific to New Zealand)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_year_plan
But mainly I was just taking the piss out of a quote from a Nobel (literature) recipient.
"four legs is the worst form of legfulness except for all the other leg quantities that have been tried (especially 2) ."
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please stay in China, mark. It clearly suits you. And it suits me very well for you to be there and not here.
Please deselect the ad hominum feature on your word processor Rich, either discuss the topic, provide some examples, give us context, or simply don't bother. The insularity of what you just said sounds recneckish
The phrase "five year plan" isn't really something that supports your argument, unless you think we should transform our entire economy to produce only coal and tractors.
Makes no sense. My argument? that Churchill's quote is drawn from lack of experience or that jurors are under qualified?
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through
throw!!!!!!!!! ze fuk. I'm stepping away from the machine.
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Or you could fund the digging of a big hole to through wannabe journalists in and increase broadband speed.
Sorry, I'm sober.
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clear evidence that in New Zealanders are in large numbers
O ffs.
"that New Zealanders in large are not well enough...."
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For anyone who thinks we should tinker or do away with the jury system, have a think about Churchill's famous quote:
""Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
I love how this quote from someone who had a major hand in defeating imperialist fascism but never lived in anywhere but a democratic country is so often taken up by others who've never lived anywhere but a democratic country. Green eggs and ham argument.
The primary weakness of democracy is that there is no consideration for making long term plans, and this was something that particularly concerned me on your blog about your son raising his fist Russell. The illusion of empowerment for individuals is insignificant in a nation where our government can't even make a truly attainable five year plan.
Also primary in any debate on that topic is who should the Government serve? The people? or the country itself? Ultimately democratic countries will hit the wall realising that following the whims of majority populations from generation to generation is far less effective in ultimately providing a better life for our (eek) progeny.
I have noothing against democracy, it's ok, but I have a lot against this senseless piece of superlative riddled toilet paper scribble from the anthropologically challenged Mr Churchill.
Democracy is not the worst form of government compared to Nazism and there are better, lest we forget the tribesman of the Kalahari presented in the Gods must be Crazy. Basically Churchill's anti fascist propaganda must be one of the most overused pieces of senselessness to propagate fear of the unknown.
I think there are some obvious flaws with the jury system, namely that these 12 people are all fucking amateurs. The pivotal role in the justice system which is arguably the most important responsibilty of a government in sustaining order is delegated to total laymen. Kiwiblog is clear evidence that in New Zealanders are in large numbers not well enough equipped to see through even the most basic manipulative rhetoric. To draw an analogy, it's not like we ask Therea from next door to come over to rewire our house without first checking that she is aware what electricity is, unless we're pretty damned hard up.