Posts by Russell Brown

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem, in reply to Bruce Ward,

    Aren’t these ‘factual errors’ as you call them, the basis of fake news?
    Aren’t we discussing fake news in this thread?

    And it wasn't a factual error, it was a deliberate falsehood. As you say, that's precisely what the post and the thread are about.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem,

    NSA chief Michael Rogers on the election and hacking:

    The head of the US’s National Security Agency said Nov. 15 that a “nation-state” consciously targeted presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, in order to affect the US election.

    In response to a question, Michael S. Rogers, a Naval officer and NSA director since 2014, said on stage at a Wall Street Journal conference that Wikileaks was furthering a nation-state’s goals by publishing hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton’s presidential campaign weeks ahead of the election.

    “There shouldn’t be any doubt in anybody’s minds, this was not something that was done casually, this was not something that was done by chance, this was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily. This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect,” he said.

    As David Corn says, Congress will have to investigate.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem, in reply to Bruce Ward,

    Generally means greater than 100%. This sounds like over-egging and I call bollocks. I also note that (very carefully?) there are close to zero verifiable statements.

    Yeah, it’s total bullshit. Forbes has a useful rundown on 2017 rate rises. Double-digit at most. They follow several years of very small increases.

    They are a problem and they’re a consequence of an insufficient risk pool in some states – not enough well people to cover the sick people. States where there has been strong uptake of the insurance exchanges are seeing the smallest rises, states where the exchanges are unpopular or have been obstructed see the largest rises.

    I gather Clinton had proposals to address the issue. Trump, it is now evident, had no plans at all.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Claiming that interim numbers are lies seems a weak argument

    You've utterly missed the point of what David said, and how the story was misleading. And I'm still frankly at a loss as to what your point is.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem,

    Shaun King of the New York Daily News on a despicable and misleading Facebook post by Mike Huckabee about a hoax hate crime that happened eight months ago, but which Huckabee portrays as having just happened.

    Most worryingly, Huckabee introduces the entirely false claim that the two students responsible were Jewish (he appears to have picked this up from yet another fake news site). It's Huckabee's most popular post in months.

    This is really chilling.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem,

    This Daily Beast story, 48 Hours in Facebook’s Unreality, is staggering:

    According to Trendolizer, a variation on EndTheFed’s story “Since Donald Trump Won the Presidency… Ford Shifts Truck Production from Mexico to Ohio” trended three times over the last 24 hours.

    Ford shifted its truck production from Mexico to Ohio in August 2015, not this week, and the move had nothing to do with Trump. That didn’t seem to matter for EndTheFed, whose post was shared 15,000 times, or ViralLiberty.com, whose nearly verbatim post trended later on Monday.

    By the time DonaldTrumpNews.co’s headline “BREAKING: Since Donald Trump Won The Presidency Ford Shifts Truck Production From Mexico To Ohio” racked up 20,600 shares, there was a startling development in the real world.

    Ford CEO Mark Fields announced his company was doing the opposite of the viral reports on Facebook. “Ford Motor Co. is moving ahead with plans to shift production of small cars to Mexico from Michigan,” Reuters reporter Alexandria Sage wrote at 5 p.m. Tuesday.

    That story—entirely true—had 233 shares on Reuters’ Facebook page at press time.

    The NY Times’ Zeynep Tifekci says it’s been going on at that intensity for months. The likes of us just didn’t notice. She has a long Twitter thread about it today.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Popping outside of the bubble to see what is in the” other” bubbles is fascinating , and possibly essential in arriving at your own “truth” :-)
    Fretting would seem to be pointless.

    This is way beyond perspectives. It's about empirical facts. Like the one referred to at the top of the original post.Clinton is ahead in the popular vote and will win it by between one and two million votes. Framing as a matter of opinion – or "bias" – is very much part of the problem.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem,

    Here’s another one currently going huge with Trumpers. The theory is that a photo a mum out for a walk got with Clinton, who was doing the same, was “staged”.

    The claims made in this almost unwatchable exercise in blather (you keep wondering when he’s going to get to his “evidence”) are:

    - The photo was “staged”
    - The woman is in fact a “top Democratic operative in New York”
    - She knows Clinton and in fact staged a fundraiser for her
    - Her removal of the picture from her Facebook page is a conclusive “admission of guilt”

    Reality:

    - Margot Gerstner has met Clinton, once, 15 years ago when she was in high school. When her mother held a fundraiser for Clinton’s first Senate campaign.
    - She is not a “top Democratic operative” and there’s no evidence she was involved with the Clinton campaign at all
    - And making her Facebook account private wasn’t “an admission of guilt”, but a wholly understandable response to being deluged with abuse and death threats. She probably didn’t feel great about having her family photos stolen from her Facebook account and abused in this twisted narrative.

    As another fake news cesspit claims:

    Perhaps Gerster was having regrets about this really bad idea to act like meeting Hillary on a hike was all a coincidence, since she deleted her post from Facebook and made her account private. Fortunately, political whistleblower Jack Posobiec caught screenshots of other pictures Gerster has with Hillary before that happened, proving the two know each other since they are seen having dinner together before this “chance” meeting in the woods. CNN didn’t seem to care about that detail since they are still shilling for Hillary and reporting lies on her behalf to help her look good in the aftermath of the election she lost.

    That site’s claim that Gerstner is a “democratic operative” is sourced from this site, which literally made it up.

    Are these people too deranged to notice that Gerstner is a child in her earlier picture? Do they just not care?

    And the Daily fucking Mail reported it as news.

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  • Hard News: The fake news problem,

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    This Breitbart story is currently spreading like wildfire on Facebook, I gather. The map is fake and the story is intended to mislead.

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