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Ooppss (wrong line on the spreadsheet)... that of course should have read:
And...
City Councils - People per councillor
Brisbane - 36,635
Gold Coast - 33,171
Old Auckland City - 21,525
Old North Shore City - 13,456
Wellington City - 12,560
Sydney - 16,880
Darwin - 5,487
Melbourne - 7,466
Hobart - 4,067
Adelaide - 1,700
Perth - 1,493
New Auckland Council - 70,560So the proposed Auckland Council has half the 'representation' of Brisbane City
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James...
Local Government Act 2002
4 Treaty of Waitangi - In order to recognise and respect the Crown's responsibility to take appropriate account of the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi and to maintain and improve opportunities for Maori to contribute to local government decision-making processes, Parts 2 and 6 provide principles and requirements for local authorities that are intended to facilitate participation by Maori in local authority decision-making processes.So councils have a legal responsibility to respect the GOVERNMENT'S obligations, take account of Treaty principles and include Maori in decision making process. As well as a raft of other obligations flowing from other law.
But beyond all that we are two partners in an agreement and we all have a moral obligation to respect it, in all that we do.
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without attempting to put into law a particular level of representation of a particular ethnicity
Matthew, this is not about ethnicity! It is about contractually guaranteed soverenty and guardianship of their lands and treasures. A Treaty cannot be disregarded or ignored simply because it is old.
If you want to sit down and re-negotiate the Treaty I doubt that you would get the deal now that we did then!
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And...
City Councils - People per councillor
Brisbane - 36,635
Gold Coast - 33,171
Old Auckland City - 21,525
Old North Shore City - 13,456
Wellington City - 12,560
Sydney - 16,880
Darwin - 5,487
Melbourne - 7,466
Hobart - 4,067
Adelaide - 1,700
Perth - 1,493
New Auckland Council - 117,600 -
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STATE - # of councils - Ave pop
Queensland - 158 - 32,016
New Zealand - 73 - 56,702
New South Wales - 150 - 45,342
Victoria - 79 - 64,446
Western Australia - 142 - 14,443
South Australia - 70 - 22,750
Northern Territory - 39 - 18,925
Tasmania - 29 - 16,860 -
Here's a question for those of you with more knowledge/time to check Wikipedia: are there any other cities *of a similar population size and geographic area* which we can compare this set-up to? Most of the comparisons I've seen have been to places like Sydney (5 million in the urban area) or London (11 million.)
That's OK Lucy... it gives me a chance to comment! This argument, in complete dismissal of the facts really annoys me!
Largest 10 councils in Australasia in order
1st - Brisbane - 989,152
2nd - Gold Coast - 497,568
3rd - Auckland City - 430,500
4th - Christchurch City - 360,400
5th - Manukau City - 339,500
6th - Blacktown - 287,634
7th - Casey - 223,424
8th - North Shore City - 215,300
9th - Sutherland Shire - 214,030
10th - Greater Geelong - 207,515Sydney City Council - 152,000
Melbourne City Council - 67,000
Perth City Council - 13,500
Adelaide City Council - 15,300Auckland is too fragmented with 4 metro councils... Melbourne seems to do just fine with 29!
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Another way to look at it is that if the Europeans want representation, they can go back to Europe
Brilliant!
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One could also argue that the Treaty doesn't apply to local government
That must be why local government has been the largest taker of Maori land for public works then?
I will now remove tongue from cheek... but then again perhaps I shouldn't?
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It would take an absence of non-Maori (sic) under the current system to convince me that they need special treatment.
Sharples made the point that they had stood multiple Maori candidates in Waitakere - some with national status, with not result to date.
North Shore elected a Polynesian councillor for several terms. In Auckland about the last Maori councillor I can remember was Sandra Lee.
So yes, I guess that you can say that there is an absence of Maori on councils.
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Will there be any recourse for submissions to the Local Govt Commission as they build the details for this?
It is very definately going to be on the (very) fast track, but the Commission has the task of setting the ward and local board boundaries. At this point it is to be assumed that there will be consultation on this in line with the existing law.
The announcement set the wards at 12, but it does give discretion to the Commission for the number of local board areas minus Gt Barrier and Waiheke Island that get their own