Posts by Mark Harris
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I just hope Concerned Mum who "just can't trust" John Key doesn't turn out to be an actor -- who first met her Bubba at a casting call.
I'm waiting for the ad that asks if John Key is a secret muslim,
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You forgot the pony
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Considering I'm actually agreeing with parts of what you say that's an odd thing to say
I know you are, but you seem to be stuck to the concept that piracy is definitely doing dreadful damage to the music industry. You state it as fact, but don't produce the numbers to back that up. That's the music industry's position, (hardly disinterested) and yet you accept it and say it must be true.
I agree that there is piracy, and I agree the music industry bodies (labels and advocates) are not seeing the same revenue they grew used to during the nineties. I don't see evidence that one is causing the other, although I do see the correlation of both with the rise of the use of the internet.
No, all you've really proved is that the industry waffles, large parts of your evidence is either a) thoroughly dated and therefore of little use, or b) irelevant to the music industry.
a) how about some more recent figures? What I see here is a hump of expanded sales peaking around 1999-2000 (gosh, wasn't Napster around then?) and then gradually dropping back to pre-1994 levels. What I'm not seeing is a devastating attack on the industry from piracy. Just not the continued growth they would have liked. Looks like a bubble is a possible answer.
b) Given that the music and motion picture spokes persons have quoted the figures in the Ars article for their own purposes, they're tarred with that brush.
When I can download a handbag then we will talk.
Funny, but not my analogy.
Can you tell me perhaps why they are the exception? Why that particular group of 40 or so kids are not average, because everything I'm seeing says they are. And if they are it's pretty clear that piracy is causing industry losses.
I'm not disputing the downloading happens. I am suggesting that the negative impact on the industry is heavily overstated.
Maybe the RIAA developed this concept of piracy as the music killer to make them more relevant to their members? As in "here's a cause that you need us to fight for you". Stranger reasons for campaigns have happened.
Kids have always niched themselves. Do you serioulsy think there was a huge crossover between say The Clash and Chic although both were huge at the same time.
Yes, kids have. But they may have heard a wider range from radio when there weren't so many niche stations.
No I don't think there was much crossover between particular fans, but there were plenty of us that didn't especially espouse either but knew who both were and had heard their music.
I'm pretty much done with the music business here. You don't seem to want to consider that piracy might not be the Big Bad the industry says it is. In fact, you say it must be a factor. I don't agree, as I think the crap business model the industry is still labouring to preserve is more at fault (plus the economy). They just haven't got that Internet feeling yet. Let's leave it at that, eh? It has bugger all relevance to the concept of copyright, anyway.
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although a quick check of the NZ album chart would indicate that it may be easier now than at any time in the past. There were 13 NZ acts in the top 40 albums a couple of weeks back including several that are platinum. This is not only a first but a radical first.
And that's great. It goes, yet again, to my main point - what needs "fixing" in our copyright arrangements? If it's working well and promoting innovation (which is what it's for), why do we need mess with it? (I realise you largely agree with me on this - the question is rhetorical)
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Small sticks could kick the ares off OS9. I'm pleased to say I didn't come to know the joy of Mac until OSX (10.3.9 to be precise) which is to OS9 as XP is to 3.x.
I went onto 2000 from NT4 (changed jobs) and thought it was more stable, but XP was so much better I'd take my lappie into work and use that or the G4 under my desk, rather than fight the anally locked down 2000 corporate box.
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@3410 - yeah, real clear now. ;-)
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Jon, I don't know that your planet intersects with any other world ;-)
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If the TVNZ site is Apple only, I think it should be labeled as such. Then everyone involved in making that decision named, shamed, fired, and replaced with people who know what they're doing.
It's not that the site is Apple-only (it's not) it's just that I have very little trouble with it on either of my Macs, or on WinXP. Macs just go, you wintard you!
As for Win2000, well, I've got some pills here for you. ;-)
<serious>It most likely is some quirk of the OS. It's over 3 years now since I was forced to grapple with it, but I recall it sometimes had issues with video. I thought at the time it was the half-arsedness of our IT shop, but it could just have easily been the OS.</serious>
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there's even room for Mark to do a terribly self-indulgent accordion solo at the end
Excuse me, my instrument's a theremin (I reason that a) the less I touch it, the less I can screw it up and b) you can't tell if I'm in tune anyway) but I'll agree on the self-indulgent bit :-)
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I'm sorry Mark, I know it's simply throwing a negative in here, without the precise evidence you require, but, since you can't provide the evidence that piracy is not hurting sales, from personal experience, I'm stating it as a fact that artists are losing money from piracy.
Umm, firstly you can't prove a negative and secondly, this is merely industry cant. Not fact. If you can't prove your point, stop making it. I've provided material to back mine up.
Yes, the industry has always had "product" but now it seems the industry is all about product. It's not that it "ain't what it was" but that it's not selling like it used to. You say "just a shame that it's all first week sales" but don't ask why that is. Perhaps not as many people want it.
As for FFD, I never said that there couldn't be breakthroughs, just that it's so much harder than it was because of the little musical ghettos. This kid listens to hip hop exclusively, that one to death metal, where once they would have listened to a much wider range because the outlets (i.e. radio) would try to meet the whole market. Now they can find an Internet redio station that specialises in their particular taste. Why would they listen to anything else. Without the exposure, they're not going to buy.
Generally, it;s regarded as an industry trusim that most people stop listening to new stuff in their late 20s. They end up playing their Talking Heads or Crowded House albums forever after that.
Heh. That's possibly accurate.
There is rarely a week that goes by when I don't buy one new album or a bunch of new singles (mostly digitally now) by new acts.
I think you would be a rarity. Although, I'd guess that PAS is full of rarities, given RB's predilections.
BTW, it isn't my industry anymore. I'm just an interested observer.
Fair enough. I'd ask that you actually observe and analyse what the industry is saying, rather than accept and repeat it as "fact"