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  • Yellow Peril: Are you gonna liberate us…,

    Thanks for the props gals ... and guys... and while I'm at it thanks Anjum for appreciating excessive commenting on Thread That Would Not Die I. It is tiring being the only one in your corner and I have huge respect for peoples such as yourself that don't feel the annoying need to justify their episteme to ignorant outsiders. That takes some strength.

    Anyway, to the topic of upping involvment of wahine, and indeed all not covered by the white boy liberal tag. Maybe this is to obvious but I would think one small way would be to, excuse the pun, start bitchin. Meaning, complain (or make helpful suggestions, whatever) to your otherwise favoured blogs/online media source about the lack of female, and/or POC voices. Both in comments and in private emails to whoever has their finger on the button.

    Encourage other similarly minded people - ODMs & ODPs (Ordinary Decent Pakeha) included to do the same. I imagine, like other organsations, your friendly neighbourhood blog will eventually follow their audience's wishes and slowly develop a more diverse and challenging range of voices.

    This in turn will bring more wahine and POC's to the readership, attracted by voices and analysis that is familiar and reflects their lived experience. These peeps can then be encouraged to join the kaupapa of diversifying pol/current affairs blogs, adding further impetus for positive change.

    It seems obvious and kinda simplistic but it usually works, at least in my experience. Just takes a really really long time.

    Disclaimer: I accept no responsibility for any deluge of emails to RBs inbox demanding more Lesbian Maori Muslim Treaty Lawyer Amputee Bloggers on PA.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: Are you gonna liberate us…,

    Coming to the party very late I have just sat and read the whole 9 pages of comments. Not sure if my eyes or brain hurts more.

    I just want to put one more nail in the coffin: clearly there are difference between threats directed at women and those directed at others. Most glaringly global stats show women experience horrific levels of violence (overwhelmingly perpetrated by men):

    Unicef: over %50 of women experience domestic violence

    UN Commission on the Status of Woman: Globally, at least one in three women and girls had been beaten or sexually abused in her lifetime.

    So when a femblogger gets threatened she has to take it more seriously than a manblogger, because women experience higher levels of 'actual' violence. This in turn amplifies the psychological effects of the threat.

    Secondly, does anyone realise it's Mana Wahine Week? (roughly, Maori Feminism Week for international lurkers).

    Thirdly, re: ODMs and EODMs standing up and being counted, I agree in principle but in practice maybe not always...

    I'm working on a construction site at the moment and endured in silence the racism, bigotry, homophobia and sexism of my fellow workers for a couple of weeks. Then I thought fuck it, I don't wanna have to put up with this shit so i called them out on the very next wolf whistle and lewd shouted comment. They just looked at me and said little, and I felt a little proud that I'd had the courage to speak out.

    Now they take every opportunity to shout 'ooga booga' at my polynesian brethren, loudly treat women as meat, etc etc. All for my benefit. And i think, if I had of just shut up then less people, particularly women, would have to deal with harrassment and abuse as they walk past the corner of Victoria and Nelson streets in Auckland City.

    So at every turn ODMs should stand up? I dunno, made a negative difference in this case, as far as i can see. Doesn't mean i won't call people out at all in the future but sometimes resistance really does seem to be futile.

    PS: If anyone has any suggestions on how to remedy the situation I'm all ears... I like the idea of a 1000 women showing up at lunchtime one day, surrounding the site and wolf whistling/cat calling to their hearts content. No no, 500 wahine and 500 tane turning up would be even better. A taste of ones own medicine.

    But then again, that sounds like a particularly masculine solution.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: Oink,

    For all the crackers that wanna waffle about... well waffles, click here:
    http://loveforwaffles.blogspot.com/2006/10/blog-repsonse-3.html
    The peeps over there might be happy for y'all to colonise their netspace with stupid insular discussions about European food, but I seem to have this vague memory that the blog that generated this thread was about Sichuan kai...?

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: E Tu, Bill?,

    Here a link to Aotearoa's e-panui (newsletter) with the widest circulation. The current issue, put out today, has constitutional reform in Aotearoa as its lead story.

    http://www.tangatawhenua.com/rangikainga/2007/issue2.htm

    just to get an additional and different Maori perspective than mine.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Chew before swallowing,

    Heh, I've never read the book, I got tipped off on the name and then googled it.

    I stand corrected on Jackie Blue being Joan Nathan's GP. But still, there's not a lot of evidence for your claims in this thread or the Yellow Peril 'underclass' one.

    I'm all for criticising the actions and motives of politician with no mercy but having no evidence to back it up makes one sound like Mikey Havoc... which is fun but inconsequential.

    BTW: what do people think of Blue's organ donation private member's bill? It was very hotly debated by many Maori last year and I often wondered if non-Maori had same/similar thoughts about it?

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: the identity game,

    surely the pedigree can't be that old

    Well the documents I looked at were pretty clear on the dates and the context of the debate, such as it was. The only thing I couldn't discern was what exactly it was about 'Pakeha' that offended the person.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: Are we getting our class back?,

    I mean crikey, just how lazy are the corporate media?

    Probably about as lazy as people who post comments on net forums that make wild accusations without any source material to back it up.

    Yes Key probably turned up with the intention to find someone for a photo up, but the chances of it being a set up are so remote, about as remote as you, Riddley, being a young bo from a post-apocalyptic future posting through some kind of time portal.

    The presence of Aroha had very little to with the intensity of protest at Waitangi Day. After all it wasn't just John Key that escaped mud slinging and egg throwing this year now was it? Even politicians that presided over a 21st century raupatu (that's you Aunty Helen) who turned up without so-called human sheilds didn't get much stick from protestors.

    More rational reasons for the lack of aggression at Waitangi this year include:

    John Key is not Don Brash (the lack of combover and absence of dog whistle are dead giveaways)

    There were extensive discussions between police and protestors before the day
    (Otago Daily Times, Feb. 7 2006)

    Kaumatua, Kuia and other leaders from the area put out the word that they didn't want trouble:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=350&objectid=10421941
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=350&objectid=10422634 (see 'Hint of Protest)

    There been a trend in the last 2 years for more celebration and less violence at Waitangi on Feb. 6
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/event/story.cfm?c_id=1500878&objectid=10422703

    go and door step Aroha's mum

    Are you advocating that people turn up on their doorstep and give them shit? I know you live in a post-Apocalptic future but that's not nice.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Chew before swallowing,

    Um Riddley, I hate to burst your bubble of Mikey Havoc-esque paranoid conspiracy theorising but Tasti Foods is based in the Te Atatu Peninsula (that's where they manufacture their products). As far as I can tell Tasti is a privately owned NZ company: http://www.futureintech.org.nz/Employer_Profiles.cfm?id=79

    According to Scoop, Tasti approached John Key after the latter announced National's nascent Food In Schools Programme. Tasti has since agreed to donate cereals and snack bars to Wesley Primary:
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0702/S00059.htm

    Giving away product is unlikely to put squillions into the pockets of Tasti Foods shareholders and being a privately owned company it won't have many shareholders anyway.

    Who is Jacqui Blue? I'm assuming you mean Jackie Blue but the NZ Herald article from Feb. 4th, which I'm guessing you got your info from, (but you never cite your sources so who knows) says Jackie Blue was once GP for Aroha's grandmother. Was once, meaning former but no longer, the grandnana's GP, but never Aroha or Joan Nathan's MP.

    The chances of this being a PR set up is sooo unlikely. First Jackie Blue would have to have known all about a former patients family - who they were, where they lived - then they would had to have happened to live in a street elegible to be touted as a dead end socio-economically (whether McGehan Close is in fact a dire place is debatable). How likely is this really?

    It seems much more likely that Key took advantage of an oppurtunity born of coincidence. You'd be much better off questioning his ethics in taking advantage of an entire street and then of a young girl. There is something morally reprehensible about the befriending of a vulnerable youngster by an MP when (if) it is done purely for political profit.

    C'mon, Riddley lay off the post-apocalyptic sci-fi about 12 year old boys; it's affecting your ability to think rationally and construct a valid and properly referenced argument.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: the identity game,

    Ha Ha! The thread that would not die rears it ugly head again. I was being a geek in the Hocken Library yesterday and came across this:

    ‘Letters From Maoris and Half Castes’, MS-582/b/10
    Excerpted from Mamaru Te Au to J. Herries Beattie, dated 09-09-1946:

    The word Pakeha was created with the very first Maoris on their way to this country in their canoes Arawa, Takitimu and others. On that sea voyage they met with a very large white bird, (presumably the wandering Albatross), which they saw for the first time and its ability to skoon [??] swoop and glide supplied the words. ‘Pa’ is skoon, ‘Keha’ something pertaining to white, light, etc. Then when the first white men came here in their ships of big white wings skooning towards the land the Maoris cried out ‘E Pakeha, E Pakeha’, and since then the white man has always been called Pakeha.

    The wider context is an editorial or letter Beattie published in the Auckland Star to which some Pakeha had taken offence to the use of the word Pakeha. Te Au was writing to Beattie to tautoko him and offer another explanation of the word's etymology. This had been published in the Star, and elsewhere. He also noted that Pakeha had come to refer to all non-Maori people in New Zealand.

    Wow, Che perhaps it was much earlier that Pakeha acquired its negative quotations. Also, this was one of a series of letters, public and private exchanged between parties disagreeing over 'Pakeha'.

    Just like PA System but with paper and beautiful handwriting.

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

  • Yellow Peril: The thing you can't stand on.,

    Go for it...

    I sorta take your point, but the its not the presence of Pakeha down south, its the relative absence (in comparison to say Akl, Welly, Melbourne, etc) of any other ethnic group which I found kinda weird. But I had me a mean agedashi in Stuart street today so all is forgiven...

    Well yes, but it's a truism to say if you remove something it's removed. I simply disagree that a consequence of change will be a loss of "history". I mean really, the 'things attached to the object' (the Union Flag) have already faded with time. Unless of course you consider New Zealand to still be a part of the British Empire...

    ...yadda yadda yadda, what about Super Tino Rangatiratanga Man aka Robbie Burns? How cool is that shit? What does someone who actually lives in Dunedin think about their man flying the colours of Maori Sovereignty?

    (Sorry, I picked your comment on a completely arbitrary basis Lewis, nothing personal)

    Whaingāroa • Since Nov 2006 • 134 posts Report Reply

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