Posts by Sacha
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Sigh. I was responding to the theme in Martin's piece that Kurariki is a victim akin to a caged animal, notably this para:
The media today is treating Bailey Kurariki like that gorilla I remember so strongly from my childhood. Unfortunately, it is easy for journos and editors to treat people like exhibits arraigned behind thick glass for our entertainment. This is especially true of anyone deemed to be deviant [ie: deviating from social norms] and Junior Kurariki has been so deemed.
I accept the failings of our jail and rehab systems especially for such a young person, but I have to question what the Milwaukee gorilla did to end up in his cage?
Kurariki is far from innocent and many other people and groups are labelled deviant by media without actually doing anything, let alone harming others. The word "deemed" was my trigger.
That's all I was saying - trying to stop this going down the previous path of blaming others for his actions and enabling more "acting up without remonstration". I agree he seems hounded now and that he's done his time for the original offense.
I suspect the media were entranced by the contradiction between the baby face and the reported thuggish swagger, and they're still not seeing him clearly. I'm over talking about the guy.
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Yes, and yes - which costs a lot
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Welli already has that big orange one near the airport, but the gales stop it swinging back the other way
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Maybe this is what Sacha was referring to as "anonymous"
Yes - perhaps "multiply pseudonymous" might have been the better term, but that wasn't my prime concern. I hope the other thread shows why I was wary of minimising Kurariki's culpability if the arguments head down the same path - quote marks and all.
just those who we have decided are our celebrity monsters
Media certainly focusing tabloidishly on him compared with others, no question.
are you saying that he doesn't deserve meaningful attempts at rehabilitation, nor a right to privacy?
Not at all. Clarifying that he has acted deviantly, not been somehow abstractly labelled as such by society. There are others who deserve far more of your sympathy and attention than this guy.
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Hirst regurgitates anonymous arguments that we're all too familiar with here under a different name - and I'd rather not go there again thanks, given how long it took to hose them down the first time.
He seems to slide past the fundamental connection that Kurariki has been "deemed to be deviant" because he actually helped kill someone at an early age, not because of some abstract sociological victimisation.
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Hmmm. More public support than opposition, says SundayStarTimes poll (though no details provided about margin of error, questions asked, etc).
Older men seem more into digging shit up. Of Nat voters, 31% say it's put them off and 18% enough to not vote for them if an election were held now.
- 79% of those questioned believed mining in general could boost New Zealand's economy to some extent. Male respondents were more likely to take this line than women (85% of men; 73% of women)
- Support for opening conservation land to mining was fairly evenly split (43% in favour versus 35% against it).
Men were much more likely to "strongly support" this than women (28% men, 14% women). Support was also stronger in people aged 60+ (53% support it either a little, or a lot).
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Geologist says Brownlee making shit up.
The Stewart Island figure was "misleading" because it was "wildly optimistic" and had not been backed by exploration, he said. "The numbers they're throwing around, the value of the mineral wealth in Stewart Island and Great Barrier Island – it's basically just made up," Leary said.
"People might go, `Well, maybe it's worth mining Stewart Island because $7b is a lot of money', whereas in fact there's basically no way there's $7b worth [of minerals] there. What it's doing is misleading the public."
He said there was probably nothing of economic value on Stewart or Great Barrier islands. "There might be $7b of minerals there, but New Zealand might win the next soccer World Cup – but we're not going to. It's just fantasy."
Leary said that without open-pit mining on Stewart Island it would be "physically impossible" to extract $7b of minerals.
A spokesman for Energy and Resources Minister Gerry Brownlee said the Government would not enter a "tete-a-tete between geologists".
Evidence, schmevidence
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Open to correction on that from anyone who works in the industry - my info not so fresh, I realise.