Posts by Emma Hart
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coulda just said you dont know. they are afterall simple y/n questions:)
Hey, dude, I'll defer to your expertise. You're the one who knows most lesbians, after all.
Tell you what, though, it's bloody tough being bi, having to hate men AND women for being competetion.
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just a couple of quick thoughts...
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the concept of Fractal Wrongness.
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Oh, isn't she awful? I have skimmed some things and been horrified.
And Tanya Gold's not much better. I have this regular 'wtf is it with female Guardian columnists running down lower-status women' thing, but it gives me a headache.
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so heterocentric institutions/people are those which are homophobic but not conscious of it until you point it out by their behaviour ?
No. Gods, am I really putting it THAT badly? Some heterocentricity is homophobic, some is not. I hesitate to mention this, but we seem to be struggling without specific examples. I had a long discussion with Julie about The Hand Mirror earlier in the year, and one of the things I pointed out, which was very well received, was the site's tendency to be heterocentric. So any discussion of sex or sexual relationships was unconsciously predicated on the basis that every relationship was straight. There was never any implication that I thought Julie or any of her writers were homophobic.
so if it goes against your moral upbringing as a religious person you are then a bad person
Religion is not a legitimate excuse for being hateful, IMO.
"Homophobic" is loaded with quite a lot more meaning
Indeed. So if I'm talking about corrective rape of lesbians, or vetoing a law that would allow gay people to claim their partners' bodies after death, I'm perfectly happy to deliberately use a word that carries that weight.
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pollywog, I'm struggling to work out what your actual point is. If it's 'you can't know about unconscious traits', then, well, duh. By definition.
I don't mean, however, that heterocentrism = 'unconscious homophobia', I mean heterocentrism =/= conscious homophobia. You don't have to be homophobic to, for instance, publish a puberty guide for teenagers which assumes that every single person reading it is straight, but if it's pointed out to you that you've done it, and you don't acknowledge it or recognise the damage that erasure does, then there might be a deeper problem than just not thinking about it.
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Homophobia is a term for a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards homosexuality and people identified or perceived as being homosexual. Definitions of the term refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and (irrational) fear.
The use was also adopted by Psychologist and gay activist George Weinberg in his 1972 book Society and the Healthy Homosexual, published one year before the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. Weinberg's term became an important tool for gay and lesbian activists, advocates, and their allies.
Okay?
I do use 'heterocentric', to mean people or institutions which actually aren't consciously homophobic, but have trouble remembering that non-straight people exist.
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aha... seems theres widespread confusion over homophobic and heterosexist
I can assure that, should I use the word 'homophobic', it's not because I'm "confused".
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At various stages in my life and with various groups of people hugging has either been frequent and mandatory or completely taboo and I always find making the switch really confusing.
Caveat: this is by no means as fraught for women as it is for men. The only thing anyone's going to assume about my sexuality if I hug too many people is that I'm a desperate slag.
I do have enormous trouble, though, working out how to cope with people whom I know don't hug in what I'd normally consider to be a hugging situation. To say hello after a separation, or to say thank you, or I care. Because I'm not very good at saying these things verbally.
Russell, for instance, is A Hugger, so I expect a hug on greeting. David is not, so I stand there feeling really awkward.
In KAOS, hugging was pretty much 'any time you greet anyone', and it did take a while for me to break that habit. But even there, it wasn't as expected between males.
But if you think rugby players, firemen, cowboys or even the Village People themselves don't have sex with men because they look so masculine, well, we just thought you were confused.
Dyan, seriously? Where did Hadyn say anything remotely like that?
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over the well who make themselves unwell.
For the categories we were discussing before (AIDS, sporting injuries, diet-related illnesses, smoking) ALL those people were well before they made themselves unwell.
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I was referring specifically to the cohort of alcoholics
A cohort which is still three-quarters men.