Posts by Emma Hart
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It's a "spectrum" that has multiple axes, I think: I can't see any correlation between 'likes boys/girls' and degree of sex drive.
See, from my perspective I always thought people didn't place enough emphasis on the role of sex in relationships . Learning where I sit in that respect has been part of a long harrowing occasionally bloody unpleasant process in which my drive, kink, and bisexuality seem to be separate components of a whole. Pretty much everything seems to be more complicated than a line. But Kinsey's continuum is still a vast improvement on the two-box model which sees me and Islander both asked 'WTF are you?' and not believed when we answer.
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So a woman who is sexually confident enough to have explored that side of herself (even if it was 'just the once at art school') is going to be a pretty attractive prospect to most guys.
While I'm not disagreeing with this as a generalisation about Out Bis, when you break down by sexuality, the only group with a higher suicide rate than bisexuals is transsexuals. We kill ourselves and suffer from depression at a higher rate than even gays and lesbians.
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Yes but, Captain jack is code for heroin.
Oh, this song is well weird to listen to these days:
Captain Jack will get you high tonight
And take you to your special island
Captain Jack will get you by tonight
Just a little push, and you'll be smilin'Quite.
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Heh, I think part of the problem we're all having communicating with each other here is the language not keeping up. Words like 'feminine' and 'kinky' can carry some very heavy negative connotations, but we don't really have anything sufficient to replace them with.
I'd love to be able to shuck off all the labels and categories, but I don't believe it's safe to even attempt this while some of those groups are still being actively discriminated against. When we get to Captain Jack's ideal future, then we can let go of our quaint little categories.
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And I can imagine a certain kind of person who might have kinky fascinated curiousity, fueled by misconceptions from porn or something.
To derail slightly, this would be MUCH more likely to be generated by the Depraved Bisexual trope in mainstream movies and tv than by porn.
it is hard to imagine why a straight person would have a particular attraction to bisexual people as a "type"
There are straight women who appear to be strongly attracted to gay men, and it doesn't seem to be any more salacious than perhaps the added attraction of unattainability. Given that I can't see any reason why people couldn't be attracted to 'bisexuals'. I think what steven is asking is would you describe them as straight, as kowhai just did? It doesn't necessarily have to be some kind of negatively salacious (assuming that when it comes to sex 'salacious' is negative) attraction. It might be just like being attracted to a good singing voice.
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Bisexual role models have certainly come a long way from Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct and Billy Chenowith, the slightly psycho artist in Six Feet Under.
The Depraved Bisexual. I used to write with a woman who did write LGBT characters despite being a bigot, but they were all of this type. Their sexuality is a sign of their depravity.
Crumpet?
[why yes, I'd love some, thanks for asking]
Heh, a minor game the English and I play with the US writers. "Want some crumpet?" "Oh, yes please. Have we got any butter? I do love my crumpet all hot and buttery."
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"13" from House is another example of an openly bisexual character on TV... and it seems to be treated in a (relatively) normal manner..
And there's a quote from House at the top of that No bisexuals page, which at least acknowledges that she's not a lesbian. Sort of. In a way I'd smack somebody for.
But she, Angela from Bones and Inara from Firefly also all appear on the Bi The Way page as good examples of bisexuals.
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What about hotties which, from a bi perspective, can cover either gender?
Heh, I actually tried this once. Hilarious misunderstandings ensued. Especially if you're taking hotties to bed.
What about "ladies and fellows"
Now this... do Americans have that 'adding laydeez makes anything sound really sleazy' thing? (This is an extra dimension of problem with colloquial language: the group I write closely with is a Canadian, two Brits, a Californian and a couple of Redneck Women from Oklahoma.)
And I really shouldn't whine because we have writers (and of course real actual people) trying to make language work for hermaphrodite and intersex characters and people.
One of my fellow writers (the one who writes Ghet's current husband) has just emailed me to say:
I guess, until popular culture as a whole grabs a brain, we will simply have to be more literal. In Ghet's case in particular, though, it is difficult -- because her speech pattern is never clunky. She has a gift for a turn of phrase that just rolls off the tongue.
There was also the interaction with Saffron in Our Mrs Reynolds...
Oh, don't get me wrong (also, Christina Hendricks, nom) I don't think she isn't bisexual, it just seems to come on and fall off - possibly dependent on which writer is writing which episode, and how much emphasis is being put on the Mal-Inara relationship.
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And yes, getting very literal does fix it. What annoys me is that colloquial language simply doesn't. And by 'annoys' I also mean 'fascinates'.
how too much emphasis was put on his relationship with his wife.
Yeah, men with wives and children AND male lovers are all gay. It's knowledge. bro.
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Um, what's wrong with :
If you're girly I'll make you braid my hair and listen to me talk about boys and girls, which believe me I can do for a really long time.
It sounds like a playground. Skipping, knucklebones, bullrush... And if you change it to 'men and women', it sounds... philosophical.
I mean, connotation changes in language all the time. But as it drifts, you still have to be able to communicate your meaning to other people, and in writing you have to do it without tone of voice or facial expression.
isn't Inara bisexual?
I find Inara deeply problematic as a bisexual - in that she appears to be bisexual for one episode, like Angela in Bones. But it's complicated by her being a Companion as well - she takes female clients, does that make her bisexual?