Posts by Emma Hart
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Danielle,
I would wholeheartedly embrace the idea of Danyl wearing an apricot scarf, but I have a feeling that Warren Beatty never *whined* this much.
I have someone that song reminds me of (who doesn't, etc), and now Danyl looks exactly like that in my head.
Not ignoring Sacha's question. Lunch, pondering, etc.
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Okay, couple of things.
First, I can Bore For My Country on web moderation. People know this. And many of them have heard me discuss this "what to do with Tinks" issue over the last couple of years. It's at the forefront of my mind right now because I have a new super-secret project in the offing, which will hopefully be disclosable shortly.
Also, I'd like to draw a parallel between the "gay sensitivity" thing and web communities. A strong community can deal with something like lil p's latest foray because it has the resilience. One that has to deal with a lot more trolling, that gets picked on - like openly LGBT or feminist communities - might have a lot more trouble, and need more intervention. I don't think I've put that very well. I'll have some lunch and ponder it.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
In your original post you refer to O'Connor as a homophobe and several other commentators have spoken to this, so your snappy little comment seems - to me - like yet another example of a PAS regular being pointlessly poisonous.
Seriously, Danyl? Because what I actually said was:
Consider Damien O'Connor. Is he a Tink – a genuine anti-union homophobe – or was he just trolling the Labour Party?
See that curly thing on the end? That's a question-mark. I'm asking, I honestly don't know the answer. I don't know O'Connor. Nevertheless, the question received almost no attention before Richard raised it. But at no point did I call Damien O'Connor a homophobe.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Richard Wain,
Richard, you're aware of LGBT youth suicide rates? Experience of being bullied? In any case, I'd be very wary of telling other people what they should and shouldn't be offended by. "Didn't offend you" doesn't mean "not offensive".
In any case, no, you haven't missed the "Damien O'Connor is a bigot" thread, because there wasn't one. So you're defending him against an argument nobody was making. Though obviously we can make it if you want.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to JackElder,
Thanks Jack, yes. And Bart is right about the push-button issues too. We can't... I actually don't know what Sacha wants us to do with people who don't listen, because everybody has Listening Fails sometimes. Both the commenters I referred to above are absolutely fine as long as you don't Candyman them.
I am astonished when people complain about the treatment the p-troll has received here. I have to assume it's because they haven't seen the worst of the comments that have been deleted - ableist, homophobic, violent.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
Speaking to the substance of the post, the underlying contention is that there are two classes of internet commentator who have different opinions to those of the author: 'tinks' and 'trolls', who are either stupid or evil respectively.
Nope. Not at all. You have to bear in mind that I mod in a bunch of different places, some of which are very different environments to this. And I tell you, I find it way more excrutiating when someone on MY side of "the issue" is Behaving like a Dick. I thought that was fairly universal.
I don't think Tinks are necessarily stupid, either. Of the two people I had in mind when I wrote this - neither of them Danyl - no, actually, I don't consider either of them stupid. But they're evangelical, they're feelers rather than thinkers, and both have had other commenters produce research that strongly indicates that what they're saying is wrong, and they've ignored it. Both were hugely hurtful in the process. Neither needed banning or modding.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to recordari,
Really really sorry, and Emma you might want to remove it.
And I scrolled down the page, idly thinking, "no, I think a warning will do, this isn't that bad OH FUCK OH FUCK"
It's gone. People can find it themselves if they wish.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,
I think the line is actually somewhere in between, where the person won't side-track every thread, but will sort of skim for keywords which would allow them to shoe-horn their pet topic in.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Jacqui Dunn,
Ah ha! Too much merlot!?
Partly that (last night, I hope obviously), and partly tbh a fairly severe case of earthquake-brain.
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Up Front: Fairy-Tale Autopsies, in reply to Russell Brown,
Arguing with doctrinaire libertarians can be a fun way to pass time, but it never really works out, because they'll never take on board a concept that crosses their doctrine.
I get the same thing with extreme social conservatives. One of the things that makes me wonder if the 'political spectrum' isn't actually a circle.