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Up Front: The Up Front Guide – How to Make a Stupid Law

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  • Kyle Matthews,

    ideally, rules should be there for a good reason, and rules set up without any good reason have the effect of wasting a lot of time.

    Russell, Ben Wilson seems to have hacked Linger's account.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Top post Emma. Really enjoyed reading that.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    It's been a while since I've been glorified, and never for copy-editing.

    I do like doing a bit of copy-editing from time to time. It's one of those gratifying jobs where the meaner you are, the more people like it.

    Perhaps it can be a new euphemism. "Mary confided to Josie that her boyfriend wanted to experiment with copy-editing."

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 471 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Mmmmm, copyediting..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19743 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Can we also not spoil my thread? I think you guys already have enough space dedicated to this argument, yes?

    Word. I'm thinking of calling for a moratorium on the c-word.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I'm thinking of calling for a moratorium on the c-word.

    Copy-editing? Cause there's this whole argument about whether or not it has a hyphen just sitting there...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    As soon as I saw this I thought of this thread.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Thank you, Stephen, that was a scarily familiar blast to read.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    We should have a PAS faq for things like pendant.

    And Green Onion Slave Girls.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    And Green Onion Slave Girls.

    *considers this*
    Yes. We definitely should have Green Onion Slave Girls for things like pendant.

    Emma: It's been a while since I've been glorified, and never for copy-editing.

    Amy: It's one of those gratifying jobs where the meaner you are, the more people like it.

    Sure, change just a few words and I've often had the conversation:
    Grovelling student: Ohhhh most exalted sensei, please accept my unworthy thesis draft.
    Me: I may consider it this time, peasant. OK, toss it on the pile, you snivelling maggot.
    *squelch*
    Grovelling student: Oh, thank you, sensei.
    Given the contents of the things, though, I suspect an argument could be made that both participants in this exchange are masochists.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1943 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    even though a three-year general degree system is crap, at least our sensei in nz were spared the pain of wading through piles of undergraduate "dissertations". then again, it's not like nz universities are four-year holiday camps for people awaiting their admittance to "shakaijindom". at least i hope they're not...

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 645 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    piles of undergraduate "dissertations"

    *shudder* Yep, the old Great Steaming Pile of Theses. We eventually stopped forcing our undergrads to put us through that -- but that just moved the problem up into the MA program, in spades, and in shovelfuls.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1943 posts Report Reply

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