Speaker: Party Central, structures and silos
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a nice picture of “Murray the McMicroManager”
prior to dropping the ball and with every
cell in his body back-pedalling furiously… -
Rail politik...
The Herald reports:There was such a drop-off in passengers, Rugby World Cup minister Murray McCully travelled almost alone in a carriage when he went by train to watch Australia take on Ireland.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
a nice picture of “Murray the McMicroManager”
You've identified the iconic image, sho' nuff. Amazing that it ain't Photoshopped.
Murray McCully travelled almost alone in a carriage . . .
Does Veolia have some ex-Stalin era rolling stock for these special occasions?
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Riding on the City of Auckland...*
ex-Stalin era rolling stock
more "laughing stock" methinks...
and best be careful we don't wander into Raybon Kan's
quicksand territory...*Arlo, arlo...
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Amazing that it ain't Photoshopped.
It is. He's only got half a foot. The rest of it is firmly planted up his arse.:)
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Sacha, in reply to
There was such a drop-off in passengers
The Mayor on the Q&A show this morning said the numbers using public transport to the game were the same as the previous week. Auckland Transport tweeted totals last night:
23,300 used public transport from the #RWC2011 match at #EdenPark. 13,100 on trains and 10,200 on special event buses
I haven't seen numbers only to the stadium for the previous week yet, only some network-wide totals that also included regular commuters and the crowd at the waterfront.
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Leopold, in reply to
"Good point. The best strategy for dealing with National might be to ignore Key altogether. To neither ask nor answer any questions to or from him, addressing them always to the people who are technically responsible for everything, the ministers. "
The Norman Kirk technique for dealing with Muldoon. Worked quite well. Unfortunately Rowling et al never kept it up after Kirk's death
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Good point. The best strategy for dealing with National might be to ignore Key altogether. To neither ask nor answer any questions to or from him, addressing them always to the people who are technically responsible for everything, the ministers. And the questions should probably not come from Goff either, since he lacks charisma, but rather from the shadow of each minister.
I note from regular posts to Red Alert, that the Labour team seem to do follow this strategy, at least inside Parliament, according to their verbatim cut and pastes from Hansard. Mostly because John Key isn't present three quarters of the time so you can't question him. Hansard however shows that Nactional Ministers rarely rise above petty politicking and arrant disdain for anyone not belong to the National Party.
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Sacha, in reply to
Auckland Transport tweeted totals last night
Also numbers TO last night's game:
22,300 used public transport to get to #EdenPark. 10,930 by special event bus and 11,370 by trains
So more people took the train from the game than to it. Maybe some reassuring word of mouth at the stadium?
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Well, it's another party to get to. Party Central has been advertised. Plus, Ireland won man.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Well, it's another party to get to. Party Central has been advertised. Plus, Ireland won man.
Indeed. And Irishmen who happily walked the fan trail to the park might be a little to thirsty to walk back.
It's fascinating that Veolia carried basically the same numbers this week as last week, with none of the same problems. Last Friday was ... special.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Special yes. I've been hanging close to the Cavalier lately and it is chokka. I believe Friday past was special in a lot of places, I can now attest from a few places. I am seeing friends moving about the North Island freely. Hell, my Dad was cruising to Auckland back from Wellington this week. And, I'm still drinking ish.
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Sacha, in reply to
Last Friday was ... special.
I'm having flashbacks of that scary mugshot from the Blend..
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I went for a long rambly bike ride yesterday, to the city and taking the "low road" home - around Westhaven. There were lots of little bars, cafes and restaurants that have been around for a while, but seldom noticed, all doing business. I spoke to the guy organizing the boat club and ramp at Westhaven, which was full of caravans, and he said that the caravans were funding substantial improvements to the facilities. According to him, the break-even for the improvements there was $80,000 and they were already up to $170,000. The proprietors of the local eateries reported roaring trade since the tournament began.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Now, that’s cool Ben.
And I forgot , my Dad came back by train! -
Islander, in reply to
That is a good-news positive Ben: while things were also looking positive in Otago for the weekend, there is no sign of increased patronage on the Coast.
And that 'bait exhibition in the Hokitika museum is actually a really good one (not much real 'bait around though...)
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izogi, in reply to
Melbourne's [...] train system is well developed, and serves that area with 2 stops, one of which is Richmond Station, with ten platforms, designed as a major commuter hub/exchange. [...] To serve the sporting precinct is almost an afterthought to what it does every working day.
(I know I'm late, but) That's true. Melbourne has all sorts of recent public transport issues, especially with trains, but they still do a great job getting people into the sporting precinct. Richmond station only has a tiny obscured entrance to the outside world, but it's optimised for passengers to switch between trains very easily. And when there's an event on outside, as happens frequently, they'll open the floodgates onto the street at the western end of the platform. A small addition to the point about Richmond is that Melbourne also has a double-tracked line specifically for events at Flemington Racecourse and the Melbourne Showgrounds. It's barely used beyond a few days each year and otherwise for stashing trains during off-peak times, but when there's an event on they can have a 6 carriage train coming in and out every 4 minutes.
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BenWilson, in reply to
while things were also looking positive in Otago for the weekend, there is no sign of increased patronage on the Coast.
I'd be surprised if that happened before the end of the pool round, at which point 12 out of 20 teams are eliminated, whereupon visitors who considered a holiday in NZ coinciding with the World Cup might opt to trip around. Or go home...
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BenWilson, in reply to
I think the big lesson from the Melbourne sporting precinct is to have a precinct. That spot is absolutely prime land, on the banks of the Yarra, walking distance from the city. It took forward thinking not to just cash in and sell it all off for apartments.
I felt that we missed the big chance to build something like that when the waterfront stadium idea died. We won't get an excuse like the RWC for another 30 years.
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I was impressed with Len Brown on Q&A yesterday (not my default position) he seemed to take full credit for the so called "disaster" and was not prepared to enter into a slanging match with the Goverment. Now that might because he is looking at the long game but well done that man
Then I read Tracy Watkins into-days paper and she claims the Government was promised officals on every train carriage and plenty of buses and as we know these were not delvered
I feel Auckland should have a long hard way things are run and maybe ensure paid officals do what they are paid to do -
Russell Brown, in reply to
Then I read Tracy Watkins into-days paper and she claims the Government was promised officals on every train carriage and plenty of buses and as we know these were not delivered
I wouldn't regard Watkins as a reliable source, at all. She's simply repeating what a ministerial spin doctor has told her. She has written two stories so far in which she hasn't even been able to get the name of the Auckland Council right.
I feel Auckland should have a long hard way things are run and maybe ensure paid officals do what they are paid to do
As Sacha has explained, Auckland local government is a new structure, just months old, designed by central government and deficient in some respects. It's perhaps not only Auckland that should take a long, hard look.
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Sacha, in reply to
the waterfront stadium idea
I liked Richard Simpson's suggestion of a Carlaw Park stadium rather than blocking prime waterfront with a looming ten-storey blob that contrary to artists' impressions would not have been semi-transparent.
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Sacha, in reply to
promised officals on every train carriage and plenty of buses and as we know these were not delvered
Veolia's undertakings after the recent Bledisloe Cup dry-run are certainly part of the independent review commissioned by Auckland Transport. Those extra elements seemed to work well this weekend - and would have been implemented whether or not the government did anything different.
maybe ensure paid officals do what they are paid to do
The transport review will no doubt touch on that and Len Brown on yesterday's Q&A show was promising broader action after the tournament is out of the way.
What he and Auckland's elected Councillors and Local Board members can actually do will be an interesting test of the new structure. And watch for election season chest-beating from Ministers too.
Two streaming TVNZ clips:
Interview with Brown (14 mins).
Panel discussion (9 mins), including Michael Barnett who has had a pretty prominent role in preparations over the past years.
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DexterX, in reply to
Carlaw Park - I agree this is the best solution - whether it ever becomes an option is another thing.
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Sacha, in reply to
he seemed to take full credit for the so called "disaster" and was not prepared to enter into a slanging match with the Goverment
Brown has behaved consistently and honourably since that first Friday night and earned my respect for it. In contrast, Key's first response was to pin it all on Veolia and he's said little since. McCully clammed up for a few days until he delivered his fait accompli. Hopefully people still pay attention to character in electing leaders.
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