OnPoint by Keith Ng

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OnPoint: Re: Education

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  • Lyndon Hood,

    Isn't the "wisdom of the crowd" when you put something out there, and if someone kills it dead with credible argument, you listen?

    (I think the actual argument there is that the application of the standards probably averages out. But whether *that* result reflects the students' progress or the quality of the emergent standards...)

    I think the editorial is actually referring to being able to draw useful conclusions from a mass of data points, which is called, um, statistics.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    A vocal lobby

    the peasants are revolting, sir

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lyndon Hood,

    Wisdom of the crowd is when a large group answers the *same* question. Not thousands of tenuously-related questions because there is in fact no standardisation in these 'standards'.

    What is the Herald actually trying to justify?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    And the original point was that reading by dads is a proxy for a relationship with fathers that is significant in many ways. It's not actually about literacy.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    A high priesthood of data analysis

    That's just insecure whinging.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Tamara,

    My 5 year old came home with her NS report yesterday. The 40 week report and she has only been at school 30 weeks. Not terribly relevant.

    By the way, we have read to her from birth and if someone is reading a book out loud in her vicinity she will drop whatever she is doing and rush over to hear it. However, she was nowhere near reading before she started school. Everyone learns at their own pace. I came to NZ when I was almost six with no english, so I had to learn the language and to read and write it at the same time. So my view is that there is plenty of time as long as the support and encouragement is there.

    A final point, my daughter's teacher tells us that the standard expected of our children now is much higher than when we were at primary school.

    New Zealand • Since Oct 2010 • 115 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Lindberg, in reply to Sacha,

    A high priesthood of data analysis

    That's just insecure whinging.

    Indeed.

    I don't mean to belittle Keith's analysis, but this really is entry-level statistics. (I guess Keith alluded to that by referencing high-school books.)

    Stockholm • Since Jul 2009 • 802 posts Report Reply

  • mic weevil, in reply to Martin Lindberg,

    this really is entry-level statistics.

    it extremely advanced journalism to whine about academic standards while disregarding the academic critique of their statistical basis by elitist "priests". um, maths is a science, nowadays, granny Herald.

    auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 52 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Pah! reading's not important anyway,if you don't read anything then you don't have to answer questions about it or know what truth is, or anyfink.
    See, I could be PM one day...
    Now there's worry.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    How would the NZ Herald go if there was an annual report on Journalistic Standards that only looked at a couple of aspects of their performance? Like cleanliness of keyboards, or numbers of words per article containing more than 5 letters.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    Meanwhile, an elitism row has erupted at Macleans College.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

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