OnPoint: H4x0rs and You
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Corp PR, in reply to
Didnt mean to suggest it is all the consumers fault at all. But if we accept that quality journalism takes time and resource, and time and resource takes money, the 'user' must surely be one of the 'payers'.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Many current financial models for media are unsustainable. Business drivers are largely economic and based on market consumption patterns – ratings, circulation, advertising revenue; online hits etc. – we haven’t totally figured out yet a business model that rewards quality ahead of consumption – which as we all know is not always the same thing (although can be).
That evokes this article from the WashPost. It seems the current fiscal orthodoxy has pushed its luck and is becoming what it replaced.
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Greg Dawson, in reply to
Fortunately, as I was saying to my partner during a rugby commentary the other day, English has lots of hit-points, and regenerates.
Super (language) geekery ahoy! Or was that a veiled attempt to troll?
And for my attempt to cap out irony for this thread - really, hyphenating hitpoints?
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BenWilson, in reply to
But if we accept that quality journalism takes time and resource, and time and resource takes money, the 'user' must surely be one of the 'payers'.
I think that's sound. The "If" in there is an important caveat. Time and resource might not take money, in a different model. People can and do work for free, and that is what the quality paid journalism is competing with. Which is why I said earlier that it's the very conception of the value of work, and the inextricable link from that to money, that creates the trouble for this industry, and many others.
Thanks for your comment, btw. I'm really liking how many new contributors this saga has brought to PAS.
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andin, in reply to
and time and resource takes money, the ‘user’ must surely be one of the ‘payers’.
See that's a connection I revile against, its not you. Seems to happens a lot tho. We are people we have time and resource and what is in our best common interest?
This gets lost in it all I feel.
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We are citizens as well as consumers.
Some of media's privileged access and legal indemnity comes from serving the former, not the latter. If we change the social contract, let's revisit those as well.
As was raised during the Commerce Commission review of new media, if someone is performing the same role, why not offer similar protection and access, and enforce standards? And if they're not, it shouldn't matter that they used to be a 'newspaper'.
When you look at the swift counter-action in this story, imagine if Keith had taken on a big corporate rather than govt department - and what protections might have helped, other than deep pockets or establishment connections?
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Paul Williams, in reply to
We are citizens as well as consumers.
Some of media’s privileged access and legal indemnity comes from serving the former, not the latter. If we change the social contract, let’s revisit those as well.
This is, I entirely agree, a really critical point (well made) Sacha.
Many institutions are have to resettle (I fear this is a very "Australian" term but I can't think of another) their position in civil society and the traditional media simply can't hope to escape. What's fascinating, for me, about Keith's piece is that he's benefited from his position in the 'sphere in entirely the same way an established jorno, Drinnan et al, do from theirs, only the map of Keith's network is differently configured (and likely takes in more people with the specific skills essential to making this story work compared with Drinnan).
and what protections might have helped, other than deep pockets or establishment connections?
Indeed. The inadequacy of existing law will likely be exposed by a story broken here. I hope our respected host is well insured?
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Thanks Paul. When even Superman is giving up on print news, some fundamental rethinking is needed (h/t Toby Manhire).
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BenWilson, in reply to
Classic. Superman is like the ultimate under-acheiver. Gifted with the most ridiculous superpowers out of all the super heroes, he manages to get a tedious day job. I think Tarantino was right - Clark Kent is Superman's commentary on the entire human race.
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Yay!
I've just confirmed that we have Kiwicon organiser and Insomnia Security employee Adam Boileau on Media3 this week to talk about matters raised in Keith's post.
He'll be on with Toby Manhire, who will be talking about this column.
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Geoff Lealand, in reply to
We also usually know when journalists moonlight, or take on tasks beyond their capabilities. I always thought that those around him, including Lois Lane, were particularly dim by not figuring out that Clark was never around when Superman was.
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Matthew Poole, in reply to
we have Kiwicon organiser and Insomnia Security employee Adam Boileau on Media3
Just remind him that the cameras can probably see right up his kilt. Might give some of the viewing audience a bit more of an view than intended.
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Martin Lindberg, in reply to
Lois Lane, were particularly dim by not figuring out that Clark was never around when Superman was
Oh come on! Clark Kent wears glasses!
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Just remind him that the cameras can probably see right up his kilt. Might give some of the viewing audience a bit more of an view than intended.
Noted.
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Islander, in reply to
Might give some of the viewing audience a bit more of an view than intended.
Not so. Everyone knows that the function of the sporran is to make viewing of the, erm, vital & interesting bits impossible - even by leetle crawly stealth cameras...
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Matthew Poole, in reply to
I don't recall whether Adam wears a sporran with his utility kilt. Didn't pay that much attention, TBQH. I just know that he often wears a kilt, and have witnessed such.
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Islander, in reply to
Ah! One of the things about being part-Scots (albeit Orkney where they dont wear kilts much) is weird esoterica: sporrans were worn majorly when away from your own home. Yes, they acted as a purse – but they had this protective purpose as well. Females can wear kilts (derpending on your area & background) but females dont wear sporrans. Or skean dhu. (We hide them in sleeves.)
Incidentally, kilts, real ones, are gorgeous garments to walk in. They lilt from your hips, they swing with your stride-
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Stephen Judd, in reply to
Might give some of the viewing audience a bit more of an view than intended.
Yes, we wouldn't want to inadvertently disclose anything sensitive.
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Sacha, in reply to
bare facts
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Yes, we wouldn’t want to inadvertently disclose anything sensitive.
Embarrassing data breach.
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It could become an issue for the privates commissioner.
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breaches
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
exposé
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SteveH, in reply to
According to physicists, bumblebees can’t fly. And yet every day, oblivious to the theoretical laws under which they are impossible, millions of them get about and do just that.
That’s a myth, Lew, folklore that appeals to some people’s prejudice against experts. It's usually used to discount some other point a scientist is making ("yeah, well, scientists also say bumblebees can't fly"). No one has ever seriously stated that bumblebees can’t fly or shouldn’t be able to fly. People have noted that certain simplified models of aerodynamics don’t work for bumblebees (and indeed many other insects).
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linger, in reply to
not a breech presentation
just slightly off kilter
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