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Muse: Hooray for Wellywood (Really!)

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  • BenWilson, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Sure, but it if was pasted on a sign near my house I'd probably have to ask the writer.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • giovanni tiso,

    If the sign doesn’t signify to most people what it was intended to signify then that’s a failure of design and a reason to come up with a less easily misread signifier, surely?

    Well, no, see, the sign was intended to be humourous. So clearly if you don't get the joke it's your fault, not the joke's.

    Sure, but it if was pasted on a sign near my house I'd probably have to ask the writer.

    Argh. Let's not do the thing again where meaning is in the intention of the author, shall we? Tim's right: if the sign doesn't mean to people what their authors intended it to mean, then maybe it should be changed.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Tim Hannah,

    But I am rather interested that such a furore has been created over it

    I think that some of the furore comes from the fact that all this was said a year ao, when the idea was initially presented. Most people said, "yeah, nah, not your best work". The airport said, "hmm. ok give us some suggestions, we'll have a think about it, come up with a best idea". They sat down, thought hard for a year, gave everyone the finger and said, "we're doing exactly what we said we'd do last year that y'all thought was a bit crap, what are ya gonna do about it, huh?".

    Which is kind of annoying really, and may explain why there's more furore this time than there was last time.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 228 posts Report

  • Tim Hannah,

    Sure, but it if was pasted on a sign near my house I’d probably have to ask the writer.

    Not that practical when the theory is that's it's for the benefit of tourists.They're unlikely to know who to ask.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 228 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Geez I like it,I like it alot, I can just imagine a wind farm in the water, (as it saves complaints about the ugliness of the landscape) as the plane approaches, big gust of wind, and plane becomes an instant helicopter, going down.;)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • Gareth Ward, in reply to Tom Beard,

    I would like to see a process whereby the public are invited to make written submissions, which the planners have to take into account in their decision. Again, this would not be a vote, but would allow people to point out information and effects that officers might have missed, or to make cogent arguments for or against the proposal. Large consents, or those that breach District Plan standards to the extent that they are non-complying, would still be able to trigger a full hearing, but there needs to be a lightweight intermediate step.

    Laying claim to www.facebook.com/RMA as we speak... :)

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report

  • David Hood, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    I assume this has happened elsewhere as well.

    Queenstown springs to mind. From memory they, and other fast food places, all got firm No to the kind of signs found in other places when they first came to town.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1445 posts Report

  • BenWilson, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Argh. Let's not do the thing again where meaning is in the intention of the author, shall we?

    No, let's not. We can agree to disagree on the relevance of the author in the meaning of the author's writings. Out.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • 3410,

    Forgive me.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to 3410,

    Forgive me.

    No

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to Sacha,

    How about me?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to recordari,

    How about me?

    Now that, I can stomach

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Leopold,

    Just officially rename the airport Wellywood (as with Charles de Gaulle, O'Hare, JFK, La Guardia, John Lennon etc etc).

    Though I would prefer:

    http://www.petitiononline.co.nz/petition/donate-the-funds-for-the-wellywood-sign-to-the-canterbury-earthquake-appeal/111

    Since Jan 2007 • 153 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to Sacha,

    Now that, I can stomach

    Should be on the political thread really. "When two tribes go to war, money is all that you can score"? And the tribal reference.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Carol Stewart, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    I can just imagine a wind farm in the water

    No need to imagine, Sofie.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 830 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Carol Stewart,

    Yes saw some off the coast in the UK and I found them pleasing to the eye. Better than the oil rigs spotted all over the States

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz,

    why is the airport company dabbling so amateurishly in tourism promotion anyway? Isn’t that someone else’s job?

    That's the easy one. Infratil are a bunch of glorified accountants and HR people. They think that by cosying up to the movie industry, some of their glamour might rub off on them. I'd suspect the prospect of getting laid by someone other than a Jetstar flight attendant (of any gender) might be not far from their minds, also.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Tom Beard,

    @Tom:

    Why is a hillside some distance past the end of the runway considered part of the “airport precinct”? I imagine it may have been reserved to prevent high buildings (although there are specific rules to prevent those), as a site for some sort of aviation equipment or to prevent houses being built whose occupants would then object to the noise.

    I can’t see why that then puts it in the same category as the terminal car park? Not to mention how, if the site was acquired under the Public Works Act (how does one check) a vanity erection qualifies as an ‘airport use’.

    The other, bigger question concerns the right of the Wellington community to control our city. One of the negatives that got Kerry unelected was this very sign – having expressed that opinion, why can’t we as a city set planning rules that allow us to regulate such things. (Not to mention using our 35% holding in the airport to make our disapproval clear).

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Raymond A Francis, in reply to Islander,

    Much later
    Thank you Islander, I was aware of those reasons (and that's plenty) for not being happy about the Museum, just wandered if there was even more

    45' South • Since Nov 2006 • 578 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    OK, I'm going to be offline until late tomorrow morning but would like to thank you all for the restrained (for the most part) and thoughtful discussion. The swill that's landed in my e-mail is quite another matter, but has been dealt with.

    Play nice, y'all.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    OK, I'm going to be offline until late tomorrow morning but would like to thank you all for the restrained (for the most part) and thoughtful discussion.

    And thanks in turn for wading in.

    The swill that's landed in my e-mail is quite another matter, but has been dealt with.

    Ugh. I don't seem to get the hatemail any more -- even though you, Emma and the saintly Dr Haywood do. It's as if they eventually ran out of puff.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Tom Beard, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Why is a hillside some distance past the end of the runway considered part of the “airport precinct”?

    It has been for decades, I think. Part of that land houses the building that used to house air traffic control functions, and there was always potential for other equipment to have been sited furter north along the ridge.

    Not to mention how, if the site was acquired under the Public Works Act (how does one check) a vanity erection qualifies as an ‘airport use’.

    The Designation has always allowed for airport-related activity, with very little control under the RMA. IIRC, the council got nervous a few years ago about WIAL's plans for retail parks, and their potential effect on the viability of established town centres, so Plan Change 57 was passed to try to gain some control and certainty. Other changes would have happened during that, but if you read the submissions you'll get some sense of how the commissioners treated the various submissions for and against certain aspects, and there's always a certain amount of negotiation at that point. Then there's the ability (at the time) for anyone to appeal a Plan Change, and given the cost of going to court, councils usually try to mediate a compromise. One might say that such a process allows powerful property owners to avoid any Plan Changes that might restrict their development potential, but I couldn't possibly comment.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report

  • bmk, in reply to BenWilson,

    No, it was "Paris, boasting the biggest penis in the world for 40 years". Which is cheezy, but still awesome, IMHO.

    Whereas Auckland has gone for "Auckland, boasting the biggest hypodermic syringe in the world." Or maybe that's just how I see it.

    Since Jun 2010 • 327 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to bmk,

    Or maybe that's just how I see it.

    Coffee plunger. What? It was only a matter of time.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Well, it got noticed in America. How proud the airport bosses must be.

    Not much is sacred in Hollywood. Classics are remade; final cuts are subjected to focus groups and re-edited.

    But the Hollywood sign? That is sacrosanct.

    Plans to erect a “Wellywood” sign mimicking the Hollywood sign in Wellington, New Zealand — part of an effort to promote that city’s growing film industry — have riled Hollywood insiders.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

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