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Island Life: I can see clearly now

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  • giovanni tiso,

    (My tooth aches and I will not be seeing a dentist until later in the day. Crotchety commenting may result.)

    I'm now stuck with this image of you having only one tooth.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Does New York have a logo?
    Does London have a logo?
    Does Paris have a logo?
    Hell, does Sydney have a logo?

    I would be very surprised if London and Paris didn't have a logo, most European cities do. By way of example, Rome has two babies suckling on a wolf's teats, Turin has the bull, Venice has the winged lion, Florence has the lily.

    And my hometown of Milan has a serpent in the act of eating (or possibly spitting out, it's hard to say) a child. I'd like to point out that I wasn't involved in that particular choice.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Does London have a logo?

    If London has a logo, it's the Underground logo.

    Does any city of any note anywhere in the world have a logo you can remember?

    I'm not buying the idea that if another city doesn't have something that Auckland has, this means that Auckland is the one doing it wrong, not the other way around.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I'm not buying the idea that if another city doesn't have something that Auckland has, this means that Auckland is the one doing it wrong, not the other way around.

    I agree. The logo is a stupid idea because it's a stupid idea, not because other cities aren't doing it. Also, if we're at the edge, can somebody explain to me why the logo is fraying like that? The message that it conveys to me is, Auckland: if somebody pulls the thread we're fucked.

    Hey, so maybe now we have a slogan too.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • JohnAmiria,

    Like Robyn, I also like the logo. When I first saw it in the NZ Herald story I thought "Hmmmm?" but then I turned the page and saw it used on a half page ARC ad. It actually works when you see it in that context. The following day they ran another ad (a different one) and it worked there too.

    That said, it did also seem to me to be a throw back to the logo the Auckland A's (now the Auckland Blues) had in the 90s. If we're going to use the 'A' (someone's obviously following the KISS principle) then what a pity we couldn't co-opt the Radio Active '@' logo. (By co-opt I don't mean 'steal' - we could pay them what we paid Triangle TV for their logo).

    But anyway, as we speak, a PR flunkie is writing a report on how the logo has been recieved and is now including the words: "... and also inspired many pages of spirited debate on the prestigious Public Adddress website, with the majority of comments being overwhelmingly positive ..."

    hither and yon • Since Aug 2008 • 215 posts Report Reply

  • JohnAmiria,

    BTW - when I say 'like' i mean i don't hate it.
    Like wot i told your mama last night before I called her a taxi...

    hither and yon • Since Aug 2008 • 215 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I could understand weaving, but fraying thread is surely decaying not creating?

    And what is the dominant letter for "Auckland" in all the languages of this city, not just English?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    Every time I read something like this from some advertising slime I am inevitably reminded of the words of wisdom of Bill Hicks:

    http://sennoma.net/main/edits/Hicks.html

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Evan Yates,

    Does London have a logo?

    Does Paris have a logo?

    Hell, does Sydney have a logo?

    London, Yes

    Paris, Yes

    Sydney, Yes

    I couldn't link to just the logo in the Sydney one, but you get the idea...
    London's is pretty boring, but it is the offish logo.

    Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • Evan Yates,

    Better link to City of Sydney logo

    Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Yes, London's really good at logos...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Stuart Coats,

    but I also quite like the logo. It's certainly a lot livelier than ours.

    Could we change the Wellington one to incorporate the Ranfurly Shield in some way....

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 192 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    New York has a flag, a logo and a seal.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    New York has a flag, a logo and a seal.

    Wellington has lots of seals!

    Could we change the Wellington one to incorporate the Ranfurly Shield in some way....

    And then change it back again when we lose it.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • pkiwi,

    Please - no oxygen for Kevin Roberts. I skimmed a copy of Lovemarks. It was brain-searingly awful up there with (no, worse than) Vogon poetry and something like I imagine the glossy creationst publications of Harun Yahya. Don't ever give KR Scientology material - he will want to start his own religion too: Love-ology, and ooh we have all these volcanies too!!!

    Since May 2008 • 7 posts Report Reply

  • Stuart Coats,

    And then change it back again when we lose it.

    Maybe that's the answer for all cities - when you win the shield you get to make it your logo. It would be cheaper that way.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 192 posts Report Reply

  • Josh Addison,

    That Listener cover: "Did Hitler use P?"

    They are taking the piss, right? Right?

    Onehunga, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 298 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    They are taking the piss, right? Right?

    Cancelled my subscription in the nick of time!

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    Top skills, logo finders. Now, who just knew those logos, and didn't google for them?

    My point is not that logos are useless, but that they don't deserve to have public resources thrown at them in any quantity. They don't actually contribute to the brand of the city, and the few that are recognisable are based in images that were already iconic for the city.

    Giovanni: I know the wolf suckling Romulus and Remus, and Bull etc are iconic images for those cities, but all I could see when searching around for things with an official imprimatur were bland-looking coats of arms that didn't feature those images.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Giovanni: I know the wolf suckling Romulus and Remus, and Bull etc are iconic images for those cities, but all I could see when searching around for things with an official imprimatur were bland-looking coats of arms that didn't feature those images.

    No, the symbols I have described are strongly associated with the relevant cities (much more than their coats of arms, etc.) and are used in all sorts of promotional material or to signify where a sports team, group or product is from. You'll find for instance Milan's serpent, Venice's lion or Verona's ladder on coffee machines in bars around New Zealand.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Pressed "reply" too quickly. The mayoralties have their own symbols (generally a coat of arms), which sometimes isn't the same as the city's itself, although it often incorporates it (as in the case of the lily of Florence). But then the promotional material issued by the city always has the iconic symbol in it, not the coat of arms.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Eric Olthwaite,

    Actually Josh, they are right. Hitler's doctor Theo Morrell doped him up with all sorts of junk, including methamphetamine.

    Auckland • Since May 2007 • 20 posts Report Reply

  • David Slack,

    That Listener cover: "Did Hitler use P?"
    They are taking the piss, right? Right?

    They remembered it from a blog they read.

    Devonport • Since Nov 2006 • 599 posts Report Reply

  • Josh Addison,

    Oh, I don't doubt that it's true -- everyone was on amphetamines in WWII. How it's in any way relevant to P use in modern day NZ, I'm not quite sure...

    Onehunga, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 298 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I'm fairly confident that the late Idi Amin wasn't doing much P, though.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

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