how do schools feel about getting pub charity sponsership? Just wondering as they seem to have plenty of money to distribute but i guess there is an ethical issue here? Even though the money from the pub charity is drawn from the same population that the school population is drawn from? (the students parents, grandparents etc...)??
Most pub charities are foundations, and you wouldn't know from the name that the money comes from a pub - in fact, some of it commonly doesn't.
Lions Foundation is an example. Some of their money comes from gambling machines, but lots of it comes from their other good work.
I couldn't imagine a way you could split the two, and speaking as someone who ran a sports club where equipment was incredibly expensive, we just took it and said thanks.
Ha! Has anyone else got the Emirates ad on the side?
And in Air NZ blue no less!
And it appears to have sprung a leak.
In fact, is there some deep rooted irony to an airline being represented by a boat?
Stumbles up to e-mic……knocks it over…more fumbling ensures…mutters “gonna go to bed early tonight…..”
...excuse me, "football" is not as diverse as it first seems.
Might we choose to agree to disagree on that one, though I underline the earlier point: Football may not be as diverse as we might expect now, but it will be, just wait and see.
Football is played by more people and does get some sponsorship but the reason we tend to put funding into rugby is that, you may have noticed, we're pretty bloody good at it.
Yeah so bloody good that NZ has won one world cup in 20 years – despite the trophy residing in the southern for most of its life. Tri Nations and Bledisloe cup stats flatter to deceive on occasions.
Also the NZRU is too bloody minded to figure out how to fund the game so we have to rely somewhat on SPARC.
* You can throw money at what we're good at to stay good at it or
* You can throw money at what we're not good at and try and even the whole thing up. And as this is sport, and not say health, let's just specialise and be bloody good at rugby (the amount of rugby funding is an issue to be strongly debated as is the contribution of the NZRU).
And the good in this is….
SPARC is the Crown Entity responsible for sport and recreation in New Zealand. (my italics)
At SPARC (Sport & Recreation New Zealand) we're dedicated to getting New Zealanders moving.
My point being that SPARC isn’t just about Sport and even if it were it isn’t just about providing the development framework for the next generation of AB’s. New Zealand has a right to expect much more - a positive experience for little Rico, Joe or Xiao Liu regardless of size or rep status. Hence my objection to funding a sport that:
i) Provides a finishing school for European professional clubs.
ii) Doesn’t give a s**t about baby Ritchie, Joe or Liu Chen if he isn’t going to be good enough to wear the treasured Black shirt.
iii) Has a history of not delivering on the most important day in every 4 years.
New Zealand Rugby doesn’t really do participation and should be left to suffer until it figures that out. SPARC can’t see past high performance and bloody push play - who’s looking out for the weekend warriors ? I love the sport and think it sad when people see national representation as the sport. So I guess in a debate over funds to the NZRFU my vote is for none until they provide something more. There is a poor record for throwing money at dysfunctional institutions. And don’t say stadium please.
As has been frequently reinforced on this thread professional teams quite often end up being brands that reflect a side with which to affiliate. Concepts of real national/meaning value get lost in the wash – Ask Manchester United or any of the Pro Cycling teams. Funding this process at a national level seems dumb.
They can't afford footballs and badminton racquets at R'toto?
From what I understand of R’toto anything beyond basic provision in sport is paid for by players (read parents) that includes kit, coaching and officials.
In the UK Spurs is associated with the East End Jewish community
Whoops - North London Jewish Community it is then.
Don't you love the irony of the word "oi" (Yoi).
So many skin heads (& Ozzys) using a Jewish/Yiddish expression.
I'd love that irony, Michael, but I don't think it's the same "oy". Yer genuine Yiddish Oy is a heartfelt cry of lamentation and distress. I think it's a phonetic coincidence.
Yes, the English equivalent might by "yaroo" as in "'Yaroo!', cried the Fat Owl of the remove..."
(Apologies to Billy Bunter fans)
There are Jewish skinheads, I've met them.
I think the concept that skinhead != fascist might not have reached NZ?
I love Michael Schumacher he is my sporting hero and he still is. to me he is the greatest.
I never saw that follow-up at the time. Rich, do you know what I look like?