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Hard News: The Politics of Absence

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  • Rich of Observationz,

    safe mass transport, like Airships or something

    Safe?

    (Even helium airships still have fuel. Lots of fuel, if they're going a long way).

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Really - I can't see that Labour are any more or less competent than the Nats..

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Rich, can't get your link to work

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    (It's the wikipedia article on the R101).

    Anyway, apropos of NZ politics and of David Garrett, can anyone explain the difference between:
    recklessly or negligently swearing a false affidavit/recklessly or negligently omitting to tell the full truth

    and perjury?
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5786783/David-Garrett-punishment-already-served

    (Not to mention how Philip Field got parole at the first opportunity, despite his clearly not accepting that his actions were wrong).

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    explain the difference between: recklessly or negligently swearing a false affidavit/recklessly or negligently omitting to tell the full truth and perjury?

    According to Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 13 July 2011)

    Perjury defined

    (1)
    Perjury is an assertion as to a matter of fact, opinion, belief, or knowledge made by a witness in a judicial proceeding as part of his evidence on oath, whether the evidence is given in open court or by affidavit or otherwise, that assertion being known to the witness to be false and being intended by him to mislead the tribunal holding the proceeding.

    (2)
    In this section the term oath includes an affirmation, and also includes a declaration made under section 13 of the Oaths and Declarations Act 1957.

    It seems there is none.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Matt McCarten compares the government's political management of the Rena oil spill with the RWC opening night chaos.

    McCully was cynically opportunistic and, in my view, insincere but it was masterful political management. His swift grandstanding ensured the Government got off the hook and most people would have got the impression that it was the council's fault.

    Contrast that with Joyce's mishandling of Rena. He didn't even get to Tauranga until four days after the ship ran aground. Having the Transport Minister prattling on, saying all had been done that could be done, was just stupid.

    For days everyone could see on the nightly television news footage of the ship in calm seas, leaking oil that was washing up on the beaches. It was plain to see that nothing obvious was being done.

    The only members of Parliament visible from the start were from the Green Party.

    This disaster, of course, is something they would take leadership on. But they did better than that - they sent their entire caucus. The Greens now own this story politically. The rest of the parties have to play catch-up.

    And where was Key? The day after the wreck, there was a picture of our smiling Prime Minister in the New Zealand Herald, pretending to put up a campaign billboard for his Hamilton candidate.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sacha,

    the RWC opening night chaos

    Pimpin earlier thread for any who missed it.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Sacha,

    The glow that will never end.

    From the McCarten Article.

    "Maybe the Labour Party's charge that Key is more interested in photo opportunities than doing his job has a ring of truth about it."

    The same could be said about Lange before he pulled up for a cup of tea and Labour imploded.

    The Prime Ministers of Photo Opportunities.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Double, trouble, oil and rubble...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

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  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Sacha,

    Matt McCarten compares the government’s political management of the Rena oil spill with the RWC opening night chaos.

    I’m sorry, but is the Herald offering a sizable Christmas bonus to the author of the most stupid single column they publish this year? To be fair, McCarten is well off the pace but I’m not really seeing the equivalence there.

    "Maybe the Labour Party’s charge that Key is more interested in photo opportunities than doing his job has a ring of truth about it."

    The Prime Ministers of Photo Opportunities.

    Oh, Dexter, your irony is so hot it burns. We are talking about the same Labour whose leader was posing for the cameras on a polluted beach without proper training or protective gear, and attacking people who actually know WTF they were talking about when they asked locals to stay away? That's leadership, and I'm Marie of Romania.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to merc,

    Epic fail.

    With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, yes. But the more pressing question is how I get the car rego transferred to Liberia - it seems nobody is responsible for any shit that goes down under that flag of convenience.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I’m not really seeing the equivalence there

    teeworthy

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • hamishm, in reply to merc,

    The article merc links to shows up the witches brew of modern-day commercial shipping. It is hopelessly compromised, hopelessly corrupt and fecking dangerous. I am sure that sailors and ship people do a very hard job with consummate skill but it is in the service of a bad practice that will imperil us all and seems to have no concern for the environment it operates in. The invisible hand of the market is strangling us.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to hamishm,

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    The invisible hand of the market is strangling us.

    hamishm, they could do with a shot of your talent down at the Occupy Christchurch placard factory.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

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    Though I'm a bit partial to this one.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • hamishm,

    Lol, I ain't cheap, Joe.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to hamishm,

    The invisible hand of the market is strangling us.

    Or it's knuckle-sandwiching us.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5445 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to hamishm,

    I am sure that sailors and ship people do a very hard job with consummate skill

    Back in the day kids would lie about their age to get into the Merchant Marine, it was a life on the ocean wave, an adventure where you would learn skills that would see you through a career of some of the most amazing experiences known to Humankind.
    There were regulations and Unions to prevent exploitation of workers and environment and everybody got a puppy and a pony (note. ponies and puppies were likely to be covered in oil and crap as ships were allowed to flush out all kinds of shit back then).
    These days, it seems, the only reason boys go to sea is because that it is the only way they can scrape a meagre pittance together to feed their families whilst being exploited by the greedy who are no longer expected to take any care at all.
    Oh well, that's progress I suppose.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    how I get the car rego transferred to Liberia

    It's interesting that if one is licensed to drive a truck overseas, even by a stringent authority like the UK, you've got to do the full road and written tests to handle a 7 tonne van.

    To navigate a 200,000t ship, anyones quals will do.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Pretty viscous, not a flower then...
    Was it an oleaginous insult, just reading ahead or
    a know-it-all spellcheck program...?
    In the RNZ news at lunchtime the newsreader said that
    "...the salvage crews were trying to pump oil as thick as maritime'!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Tiwai Point for sale...
    Rio Tinto is carving up its Aust and NZ assets into a unit called Pacific Aluminium, which it then intends to sell off. Hopefully that means we get to renegotiate the ludicrously low price the smelter pays for 15% of our total power generation output - one would hope the contract for supply would be with the original owner and not transferrable to all and sundry bargain hunters...
    ... could be an election issue along with the grim spectre of a government hell-bent on publicly owned asset sales.
    (Just how is English & Key planning to pay back all this money we are still borrowing?)

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    I want to know if the discount for electricity is going to be passed on to the new owners. That sort of subsidy, coming from us, is a huge corporate Govt. handout. Also that is one of the best surf breaks in the world, just sayin'

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

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