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  • Lyndon Hood,

    One of the odd things is that depending on how you look at it, either all the weather is caused by climate change or none is. But it's fair to remark on the frequencies.

    I notice that deeper in that April-Fool's-Day-2007 release from the C"S"C, Augie says:

    Dr Salinger uses the words ‘as climate warming occurs’, when his own agency's latest seasonal summary statistics for December-February just released show New Zealand at 15.7 degrees C, 0.9 degrees lower than normal.

    Add Augie's decision to use of local season data to deduce world climate to the sophistry of his counterargument and I think Salinger is still standing afterwards. And we do expect more exreme events, inculding floods (http://www.mfe.govt.nz/issues/climate/about/impacts.html).

    /feeding

    response that it's not ok to share ideas

    The point is about the words - or rather the sentences. He could have used quote marks if he liked. Which would have shown how lazy he was being (part of the problem) rather than disguising it (a lot more of the problem).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report

  • Brickley Paiste,

    Brickley, watch the you tube clip from Stephen a couple posts above to see what Russell was referring to.

    I can't watch that at work either.

    I'll wait until I get home I guess.

    Why can't someone just spell it out?

    Anything about cops and I'm dying to know...

    Since Mar 2009 • 164 posts Report

  • Stephen Judd,

    Apropos Media7: I'm afraid that learning that "trauma journalism" is a trade term doesn't improve my feelings about news reporting.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report

  • Stephen Judd,

    Brickley: the clip depicts a cop stopping a teenager on the street at 3AM.

    The teenager in question explains himself by saying he is off to buy a pie from the convenience store at a petrol station.

    The concerned policeman ensures that the teenager has enough money to purchase a pie. It is established that the teenager has three dollars, and that this is likely to be enough.

    Knowing that service station pies are very hot in the middle at 3AM in the morning, and concerned that the young man might hurt his mouth, the policeman reminds the teenager of the importance of blowing on the pie, by means of Socratic inquiry or catechism.

    Finally, the policeman alludes to the role of the police in maintaining the safety of the community by referring to a well-known slogan.

    I trust this allays your concerns.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report

  • giovanni tiso,

    And yet the clip is so much more.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Emma Hart,

    And the underlying conditioned cultural response that it's not ok to share ideas, that people must work independently, is why the environmental problem will never be solved.

    Mark, the underlying cultural assumption behind 'plagiarism is bad' is 'credit where it's due'.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Apropos Media7: I'm afraid that learning that "trauma journalism" is a trade term doesn't improve my feelings about news reporting

    Not at all, Stephen. It's actually an important, and relatively new, field of training and study -- for a long time, journalists sent in to traumatic situations were pretty much left to deal with it themselves afterwards.

    I interviewed Jim McMillan of the Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma, who got interested in the field after struggling to deal with his own response to the 9/11 attacks, where he took some some extraordinary pictures:

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Brickley Paiste,

    I was more curious than concerned. Now I'm confused and significantly less curious.

    Let me know when they taser a pregnant woman. I've got a pool going on that one if anyone wants in. $20.

    Since Mar 2009 • 164 posts Report

  • 3410,

    And yet the clip is so much more.

    Indeed. It's so Kiwi it makes Hot Fuzz look like Bad Boys II.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Michael Stevens,

    I'm just wondering - maybe we can turn "Always blow on the pie" into a new form a gay code ;-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 230 posts Report

  • Stephen Judd,

    Ah, it seems that I took "trauma journalism" exactly the wrong way.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report

  • kiwicmc,

    Another great Police 10-7 moment (it's carried here in Oz on one of the free to air channels - possibly for it's comedic value) was when a couple of constables accosted a graffitti 'artist'. During the questioning one of the cops starts exclaiming how talented the perp is, and how he should find a gallery to represent him. The other cop finds a bucket and scrubbing brush (from where I know not) and as it turns out the art work has been done in water based paints no one is charged.

    Auckland, New Zealand • Since May 2008 • 88 posts Report

  • Just thinking,

    "Always blow on the pie" - said in my best Marvin Gaye voice.

    Teasing drunks - has to be one of the perks of the job.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    Teasing drunks - has to be one of the perks of the job.

    Shurely "tasing drunks"?

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz,

    If the text is provided explicitly for reuse, like a press release or wire story, are journos supposed to attribute it?

    I'm guessing the global warming deniers *want* their drivel repeated and don't care about attribution.

    That'd be my line if I was Garf's employment lawyer, anyway.

    I reckon he won't be even slowed down by this. Silver stakes and crossroads at midnight would be more the mark, really.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    If the text is provided explicitly for reuse, like a press release or wire story, are journos supposed to attribute it?

    Yes.

    A wire story might be incorporated in a news report, but ideally you'd want the source noted in the byline.

    And cutting and pasting press releases isn't journalism. Although it is regrettably common.

    I'm guessing the global warming deniers *want* their drivel repeated and don't care about attribution.

    Not the point. When journalists use other writers' words in any substantial way, they should be attributed. In this case, Garth simply copied and pasted a polemic when he was, in theory, being paid to think of something himself.

    Anyway, word out there is that Garth will keep his column: saved by a colon -- which might be taken to confer attribution, even though he didn't use quotation marks thereafter.

    So he's regarded as merely having done what he often does -- padding out huge stretches of his column with quotations he doesn't even need to retype.

    I wrote a weekly column for years, and it's something you have to guard against doing in lean weeks. It can be easier, sometimes better, to quote generously rather than rephrase the ideas yourself.

    But I can't recall a prominent columnist as lazy in this respect as Garth George is.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • 3410,

    It can be easier, sometimes better, to quote generously rather than rephrase the ideas yourself.

    Right. Nothing wrong with being an ideas aggregator. Pretending that the ideas are your own, though, is deceiving the reader.

    [O/T,
    RB, 50-instead-of-20 posts per page is making refering back to older comments, IMO, much harder.]

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    I take my hat off to anyone that can get far enough through one of GG's articles to spot plagiarism. My eyes usually glaze over when I see his evil eyes.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Right. Nothing wrong with being an ideas aggregator. Pretending that the ideas are your own, though, is deceiving the reader.

    Yes -- just not too much. You're supposed to be adding some value of your own.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    [O/T,
    RB, 50-instead-of-20 posts per page is making refering back to older comments, IMO, much harder.]

    Actually, I've been meaning to ask about that -- I think I feel the same way.

    Anyone else have a thought on this? It's a parameter I can easily have changed.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    Dare I ask...user-configurable?

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Dare I ask...user-configurable?

    That would be new functionality rather than just using a different value in the CMS, but not a bad idea.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • HORansome,

    I agree; fifty posts per page seems just a tad excessive; 25? I'm just pulling numbers out of my arse... just like a Climate Change Denier.

    See what I did there? Throwing out shapes.

    Tāmaki Makaurau • Since Sep 2008 • 441 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    I take my hat off to anyone that can get far enough through one of GG's articles to spot plagiarism. My eyes usually glaze over when I see his evil eyes.

    That glare is just to disguise Garth's own glaze. Old curmudgeon trick.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Steve Parks,

    I agree with 3410. 50 seems too much, but 20 maybe too few. 30, maybe?

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report

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