Hard News: Privacy and the Public Interest
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Parke's recreation...
the golden rule of statutory interpretation
(Baron Parke’s rule)aaah!
The original Well Read Baron!
Lord Wensleydale himself...
Say Cheese!Perhaps of passing interest:
Baron Parke Rises From the DeadOther dramatis personae:
The Black Stone
or is it Blackstone
more likely Bill Blackstone
his ratio lives on:the principle that it "is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer".
all interesting stuff...
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UglyTruth, in reply to
Unfortunately I hit the paywall for "Baron Parke Rises From the Dead".
The thing that I really like about the golden rule is that it refutes the mantra that statute law overrides common law. Also, as can be seen from his history, Parke didn't approve of parliament fucking with the common law.
After musing the etymological fallacy, I'm of the opinion that it's of more value as a smokescreen for inconvenient truths. Take "nice" for example - "she's a nice girl", or "he's a nice guy". The thing that sets nice guys apart from good guys is that good guys are true to their values while nice guys get pushed around by bad guys whe know that they're only placaters. The etymology of "nice" gives us a clue:
nice (adj.)
late 13c., "foolish, stupid, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (see un-) + stem of scire "to know" (see science). "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (late 14c.); to "dainty, delicate" (c.1400); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeable, delightful" (1769); to "kind, thoughtful" (1830). -
BenWilson, in reply to
No way is the nationwide median house price $500k. It might be that in & around Auckland but not ‘down country’.
I wasn't actually talking about the median price - a median can't be used in the way I used it, to find a total value. I meant the mean, and that is higher than the median by a reasonable amount. Median is a better measure of central tendency in this case, but I'm wasn't trying to make a claim about that, I was just trying to find the total house value which a mean is useful for. But I'm not going to niggle any of this - even if I used 375k as the multiplier, it would still make the point about just how much of our capital is sunk into this class of investment - it's almost a different order of magnitude to anything else.
BTW not arguing against a CGT as I think it is an excellent idea and long overdue.
I got that. And it is scary just how skewed the median is from the mean, it's a very important point when trying to understand our property ownership inequity.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
Insisting on dragging words back to definitions that have not been in use for a very long time is a form of redfining language. Please stop.
You personally find secular oaths repugnant. That's your problem. Everybody else sees nothing hypocritical in swearing an oath that does not reference a deity. Why? Because society has moved on, and as society has developed, so has the language.
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Emma Hart, in reply to
Insisting on dragging words back to definitions that have not been in use for a very long time is a form of redefining language. Please stop.
This is also the third thread he's tried to drag this increasingly irrelevant troll on to. If people could just go on not engaging, that'd be great.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
You're right, and that's the position I was in yesterday - just watching with morbid fascination wondering when, exactly, somebody was going to call 'time' on this. But that comment of his bugged me. Back to exercising self-control. Sorry.
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UglyTruth, in reply to
This is also the third thread he’s tried to drag this increasingly irrelevant troll on to. If people could just go on not engaging, that’d be great.
I ws bnnd frm Th Stndrd fr tlkng bt ths. Smlr cntxt t, tlkng bt hw sttt lw s nt th lw f th lnd.
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Ah, the ritual disemvowelling has begun!
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Sacha, in reply to
a fittingly olde-fashynd remedy
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
...sttt lw s nt th lw f th lnd
a land of consonant sorrow?
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a land of consonant sorrow?
Dear Mr Dalziel...
I just want to say that you and your constant puns are one of the absolute best reasons for hanging around here at Public Address...Many people around here are funny, (I try my own hand at times), but you Sir, are a constant source of mirth, while remaining pithily on topic, and drawing from a wide source of references for you riffs...
Applause, Applause, Applause....
P.S. I love you.
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startswithj, in reply to
So Slater is a political vehicle, bribed, fed information used to facilitate certain perceptions and results for monetary gain, is completely bias, and is also a journalist.
If the judiciary decided that, the standard of NZ news reporting is a bit of a worry. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Applause….
Shucks, thanks for that ArrowmakerB.
I'm all aquiver with delight
but humbly...Truth be told I just run a flock of 64 puns
by rotating, recycling & reconfiguring
usually one of them will play in
any given situation, every
little thing is ductile
when massaging
the message,
& torquing
the talk.tune
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nzlemming, in reply to
Was the High Court able to consider Cameron Slater’s leaked mailbox in this decision?
Just reading the judgement:
[3] Recently, some time after the hearing, Mr Blomfield has sought to produce further evidence, arising from the publication of the book Dirty Politics by Nicky Hager, and various email exchanges.
[4] I have declined to grant leave for the introduction of this further evidence on the basis that it is hearsay or privileged.So, no, even though Blomfield tried.
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CIV2013-404-5218 12-09-2014 JUDG.PDF
Here's the document
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
Its great to have fresh media eyes on this issue. GIS article is well written.
"New Zealand is a small country, with a population of less than five million, situated in the far reaches of the southern hemisphere....
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Defenders and enablers everywhere:
“Innocent people have nothing to worry about.”
Privacy and secrecy are not the same thing.
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Yes,
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
...and Key does seem to have a dose of the 'fear'
- otherwise why would he lash out so...?It's like the 'Evening Noose' not the news each night
tightening, tightening, tightening...
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