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  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    Mallard got promoted seems like Len Richards thought it was a good path to follow. My bet Party Prez.
    Who is Gill?

    http://www.tv3.co.nz/video/LabourPartydelegatehitsprotesterwithmegaphone/tabid/309/articleID/38389/Default.aspx?ArticleID=38389#video

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    One law for all?

    Sandra Manderson graffitis Police station.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4259561a6530.html

    I've never seen such a thing as offically santioned graffiti (maybe that red spikey sculpture on the AKL motorway).

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Mallard got promoted seems like Len Richards thought it was a good path to follow. My bet Party Prez.

    See my post in the other thread, Michael. Until last year, Richards was co-leader of the Alliance. He published a statement last week unequivocally condemning both the Ruatoki raids and the Terrorism Suppression Act. So he's not exactly the face of state terror.

    The hysterical nature of the protest no doubt raised the temperature. But Labour should still turf him out of the party.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • reece palmer,

    The way they looked to be on the news I doubt that crowd would have listened to Ghandi, but more importantly why did the police not react to his violent act as they did to the 17 year old that spat on one of their number. This guy will no doubt deny deny deny the undeniable until it goes away. The labour party should definitely expel him but I doubt they will. The police should prosecute but I doubt they will. Certainly can't cite lack of evidence or witnesses.

    the terraces • Since Nov 2006 • 298 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    The hysterical nature of the protest no doubt raised the temperature. But Labour should still turf him out of the party.

    Looked relatively clam compared to some of the protests I walked through back in the 90's, Russell - and I'd bet the house that there were plenty of folks inside the Bruce Mason this morning who were on the other side of the door then.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Looked relatively clam compared to some of the protests I walked through back in the 90's, Russell - and I'd bet the house that there were plenty of folks inside the Bruce Mason this morning who were on the other side of the door then.

    I think what's different about this one is that it was like a family squabble on the capital-L Left. The protesters were chanting "shame! shame!" at the Service and Food Workers Union people as they arrived, then wouldn't let Jill Ovens speak. The irony being that they were shouting down people who agreed with them about the TSA and the Ruatoki raids.

    Weird.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I think what's different about this one is that it was like a family squabble on the capital-L Left.

    No feud like a family feud - and the weird (and rather pleasant) thing about being in the Young Nats at Vic back in the 90's is that there were plenty of folks on 'the other side' you could at least be civil to, even quite good friends with. Perhaps I'm showing my grey hair, but it feels like politics isn't as much fun as it used to be - and a lot more bitter and apocalyptic.

    Anyway, I very much doubt it was the first time Ovens found herself in the middle of *cough* a free and frank exchange of views. At least she - from the look of the story on Three - had the good sense to just walk away; seems as if her only error of judgment wasn't to make sure her husband/partner followed her inside.

    And to be honest, RB, what kind of reception was Ovens really expecting? This wasn't a union gathering, but the annual conference of the Labour Party. And it sure looked like Clark thinks she's onto a winner by dog-whstling the terrorism meme as hard, and as long, as she can. ITA with you photos of a braying mob leading every news bulletin isn't exactly helpful to their cause. I'm just saying that I can understand why they may not have been interested in what any delegate to that conference had to say.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Margaret B,

    Richards has long been a hot-head, in the sense that he literally gets red in the face when angry and that rage is often quite close to the surface. The TV One coverage was very very damning of his actions (and the bizarre combination of inaction and action on the part of the police). They interviewed Richards and asked him about the hitting, he bald faced denied he had hit anyone. They then cut back to the coverage of him clearing hitting people with the megaphone, with a voiceover along the lines of "the camera doesn't lie". The police came out looking very bad, IMHO.

    The police seem to be determined not to make any friends at the moment. I can't understand why.

    Why should Ovens be responsible for the actions of her partner?? She did the right thing in walking away, he didn't, but now somehow some of the blame accrues to her? I don't understand that either.

    Since Oct 2007 • 59 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    At least she - from the look of the story on Three - had the good sense to just walk away; seems as if her only error of judgment wasn't to make sure her husband/partner followed her inside.

    The One News footage shows that quite compellingly: she put down the megaphone and walked away. Shame about hubby.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Margaret B,

    Russell, you don't seem to have activated the Discuss button on your latest post?

    Since Oct 2007 • 59 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Russell, you don't seem to have activated the Discuss button on your latest post?

    D'oh! Done now. Comment away.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Margaret B,

    Thanks Russell, much appreciated.

    Since Oct 2007 • 59 posts Report Reply

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