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If it came up at all I'd be amazed. Do tell.
I've come across it at a club with people saying that "we needed jews to look after the money". I gave them a five minute history about how being forced to be moneylenders had screwed Jews over and given them a nasty stereotype which was held against them hundreds of years later.
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Unless things have changed a lot in the last 25 years, what Paul describes is my experience. The teasing/bullying angle was more out of a desire to personalise harrassment rather than any real antisemitism, but "jew" as a verb for cadging etc was just commonplace place slang until I made my displeasure clear. (Hamilton, 1975-86)
There was the workmate who made some passing reference to money and Jews and when I went "what?!" he said, well everyone knows Jews have deep pockets and long noses, and continued in that vein while my jaw dropped further and further -- I was honestly too shocked to get really angry. It happens.
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That sucks, Paul. Never really encountered antisemitism much in NZ before. It was alive and well in Australia, though, and most unpleasant.
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I've always assumed "Pacific's triple star" as being the Great Southern Triangle. Though why it needs guarding I'm not sure.
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well here we are in this day and age with our third Jewish Prime Minister, you'd would think we'd be past it by now - mostly though I think this is an artifact of petty schoolyard behaviour - the same thing that does result in physical bullying in the extreme - school should be a safe place, probably one of the safest places in our society and we need to make the effort to make it so
Of course the current Minister could start by leading by example ....
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That sucks, Paul.
Sure does Ben. Generally that was why I left Australia too. Blatant racism.
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Abuse is the new black. Among the youff it is kinda cool to be politically incorrect and quite unpleasant towards groups who can be isolated and stereotyped: first it was the gingas, then the gays, now the Jews.
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It might not excuse the method of Williams' approach, and I am not usually one for agreeing with Jim Anderton, but there are some valid observations in his release today....:
Sigh... When the shuttle containing Jim Anderton's brain lands could someone give me a call? Williams has gotten extensive media coverage, and anyone who claims otherwise is either stupid or a liar.
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Horrified, but not surprised, at the talk of school bully-language unchanged after decades.
You'd never get away with that over here (although funnily enough you can get away with ribbing a kid for being an atheist -- our then 7 year old didn't mind too much, as it gave him a chance to explain the logic of atheism, which usually bored the other children into submission).
But I really just popped in to belated high-five Ben W for this:
Surely the nation's Van can be found hanging out with the nation's Munter.
The anthem will never be the same, in my head.
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Never got to the Nation's Van bit - its submerged in that vast unexplored hinterland of the national anthem, beyond the first verse, where most of us go "nrr nrr nrr nrrr/nrr nrr nrr/ GAAD DEFEND NU ZEE-EE LAND"
But if the nation had a van, it would be a white Ford Escort.
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But I really just popped in to belated high-five Ben W for this:
Right back at ya, although I'm worried it's a witicism. My belated and almost certainly plagiarized sole entry to the actual topic of this thread.
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But if the nation had a van, it would be a white Ford Escort.
It would be a Caravan! Man does one see plenty of those in the hols.:)
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I thought the Van was way further up the song, but I just checked out the lyrics and Rob's right.
So the tune is decent, and with a bit of syncopation it could really swing, but man, are those lyrics due for an overhaul. "Men of every creed and race"? That's not OK.
We could do better amongst ourselves, and do it by Friday. "Hey New Zealand, you're quite neat". Take it away, PAS.
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The nation's vans have been stolen by P addicts.
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Despite your stinky jandalled feet?
You deserve an occasional treat? -
I had a few students who were making derogatory remarks about 'Jews'. It turns out they had been watching 'Borat'.
I gave them a history lesson and a quick run down on Sacha Baron Cohen and it stopped (AFAIK). -
Hey New Zealand, you're quite neat
A rugby team only France can beat
A small contribution to rising heat
God! Kumara is nice to eat. -
Hey New Zealand, you're quite neat
A rugby team only France can beat
A small contribution to rising heat
God! Kumara is nice to eat.Now that's what I'm talking about. I think we can weave Stephen's lines in now:
Got to admit it is quite sweet
Despite our stinky jandalled feet*
We deserve an occasional treat
Cos we live in New Zeeeeeealand.* Alt. That sheep are good for wool and meat.
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Only ever holidaying & working holidaying in OZ, I've never come across the routine racism I see often in Christchurch.
Close examination of our colonial history is pretty horrid.
Pogroms, I mean, Dawn Raids anyone? -
We could go on...
Don't dream it's over
Whilst we still have the pavlova -
Or...
Lets us all sing a song of joy
For Sir Ed and Susan Devoy -
Likening dawn raids to pogroms I find more than a little distasteful. I had a similar reaction to the description of what happened to Maori in Taranaki as a "holocaust."
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To be fair it's "nations' van" not "nation's van" .... we have to share it
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We think we were the first to fly
And we're stuck with P to get us high
We must always blow on the piiiiiiiiiiie...
Hamilton has Geoff Lea-ea-landOr something.
ETA Good point, Paul. How many nations have to share this van? Do we all get in it at once, or is there a rota system? Australia gets the van on alternate Thursdays, something like that.
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"From dissension*, envy, hate
Ladies, please bring a plate"or
"Guard our country's spotless name
For that grubby mark, I'm not to blame"Someone tell me to stop....!
* what exactly is that?
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