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Hard News: Holiday Music: Pop TV Lives

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  • Robyn Gallagher,

    That's Catherine McPherson interviewing the Fits, so I'd assume the show is the legendary What Now.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    BTW, NZ History has a good run down of most of the music television shows over 50 years or so of New Zealand telly.

    There comes a point in every older person's life when you discover that music telly isn't like it used to be in your youth, mainly because when all the videos being on YouTube, they're not the special rare gems that they used to be. The kids of today aren't going to have that experience. Yeah, they might stumble across a weird video, but their friend isn't necessarily going to have seen it at the same time. Unless they message their friend with the link.

    Like, I remember when I was 12 and saw Sly and Robbie's "Boops (Here to Go)" one afternoon on Shazaam. It blew my mind with its weirdness and I remember discussing it the next day at school. What did it meeeean?

    Here's another interesting thing - in American, streaming of songs now counts towards chart positions. This is one of the reasons why sexy music video are so big - for example the naked ladies of "Blurred Lines" and Miley's demolition erotica of "Wrecking Ball". It also means that James Franco and Seth Rogen's parody of Kanye's "Bound 2" video contributed towards the original's chart position, as does every video of fat bastard licking a sledgehammer while the original Miley song plays.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    BTW, NZ History has a good run down of most of the music television shows over 50 years or so of New Zealand telly.

    Brilliant, thank you. And for the What Now tip.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    It also means that James Franco and Seth Rogen’s parody of Kanye’s “Bound 2” video contributed towards the original’s chart position, as does every video of fat bastard licking a sledgehammer while the original Miley song plays.

    Indeed. And every rip from the album that some kid chucks up on YouTube with a still photo. The music business has changed quite a lot ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Swain, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Shazaam

    Phillip Schofield. I have no idea why, almost thirty years on, I remember that guy's name, but there you go...

    Japan • Since Apr 2013 • 45 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP,

    The Old Grey Whistle Test is a good source for many of my faves. Run from 1971 to 1987, according to the wiki.

    Here’s a selection.

    Siouxsie 1982.

    The Specials, & Madness.

    The Undertones.

    And then there’s this hilariously earnest introduction of The Jam and Joy Division on Something Else.

    ETA: Watch to the end for more earnestness. :-)

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to JacksonP,

    And then there’s this hilariously earnest introduction of The Jam and Joy Division on Something Else.

    That's the last televised performance byJoy Division and apparently the only one to be nationally broadcast at the time.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Gareth Swain,

    Phillip Schofield. I have no idea why, almost thirty years on, I remember that guy's name, but there you go...

    He's a household name in the UK, the host of morning show This Morning, as well as hosting various light entertainment shows over the years. And he's quite the silver fox!

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Russell Brown,

    That’s the last televised performance byJoy Division and apparently the only one to be nationally broadcast at the time.

    Watching it through gave me the shivers, TBH. Not sure the presenters had even the slightest clue of the significance. Then I guess they wouldn't.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Shazam, series one episode one, Philip's TV debut. And the star interview subject is ... Cliff Richard!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    He's a household name in the UK, the host of morning show This Morning, as well as hosting various light entertainment shows over the years. And he's quite the silver fox!

    You could think of Schofield's time in NZ as an extended gap year of sorts.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5442 posts Report Reply

  • peter mclennan,

    that Black Uhuru clip is wicked, thank you! Heavy heavy rhythm section. Saw Sly and Robbie with Michael Rose live at the St James, they revisited many of the tracks off that album, so good. Halfway thru the gig the PA died, but the band had onstage monitors so just kept playing til it got fixed. Didnt miss a beat. Incredible. Must go and dig that album out now. And DAMN i miss gigs at the St James. They were an occasion

    AK Central • Since Nov 2006 • 159 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Indeed. And every rip from the album that some kid chucks up on YouTube with a still photo. The music business has changed quite a lot

    The same has also brought vast amounts of music back from the lost. So much 50s and 60s NZ music released by small labels survives only because of people doing that to their old 45s and album tracks.

    Also from Rockpalast is this stonking live performance from Elvis Costello with his Attractions from 1978 - at their early This Years Model prime.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler, in reply to JacksonP,

    Look how hard Stephen Morris is working in that last one. No wonder he was so early on the drum machine bandwagon. And Curtis trying to get his dance on, but the audience is giving him nothing. Not that it would have helped.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • Eediot,

    Does anyone know why I can't Like Soundcloud tracks in this blog on my iPad? Clicking Like takes me to a login page and then back to this page but doesn't actually register my Like.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 51 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Ah, MTV. What a bloody disgrace it is today but I recall its beginnings, when I began my PhD studies in Ohio in late 1979. Seeing Prince and Little Red Corvette for the first time! Hearing Tom Waits The Piano is Drunken, which a local sleazy bar used to close down proceedings in the early hours of the morning .....

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Robert Fox, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I remember tuning in to that edition of Something Else and being totally mesmerised by that now Iconic performance of Transmission. One of those life changing TV moments. He may have had an ego the size of a small planet but Tony Wilson was a pop genius who broke the mold of pop TV in the UK . Here's She's lost control from the same show. Curtis meant it maaaaaan!

    Since Nov 2006 • 114 posts Report Reply

  • BlairMacca, in reply to Russell Brown,

    That's the last televised performance byJoy Division and apparently the only one to be nationally broadcast at the time.

    I remember seeing that clip of Transmission for the first time getting home drunk at about 3 in the morning on M2 (think thats what it was called) in the early 2000's . Freaked the hell out of me, I was certain Curtis was having a fit onstage (which he quite possibly almost was). Again now I could see that within seconds of searching, in those days that was the first time I had ever seen a Joy Division performance

    Wellington • Since Apr 2007 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • BlairMacca, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    There comes a point in every older person’s life when you discover that music telly isn’t like it used to be in your youth, mainly because when all the videos being on YouTube, they’re not the special rare gems that they used to be. The kids of today aren’t going to have that experience. Yeah, they might stumble across a weird video, but their friend isn’t necessarily going to have seen it at the same time. Unless they message their friend with the link.

    And basically any song. I remember listening to the radio when I was a teen in the 90's waiting for songs to come on so I could tape them. And how excited I would be to have it and be able to listen over and over. Kids don't have that excitement anymore which i feel a bit sorry for them for.

    Wellington • Since Apr 2007 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe,

    I read somewhere once that Wellington had the highest per capita sales of Joy Division albums in the world in the 1980s. Is this true?

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hebe,

    Weather :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19743 posts Report Reply

  • BlairMacca, in reply to Hebe,

    permanent ad in Mt Cook helped

    Wellington • Since Apr 2007 • 208 posts Report Reply

  • Robert Fox,

    Anyway here is my favourite bit of German rock TV from the 70's. I had mate called Rhys who used to play guitar like this and at the time know one really understood why. I am Damo Suzuki!

    Since Nov 2006 • 114 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to peter mclennan,

    Heavy heavy rhythm section

    and they kept evolving

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19743 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Bell,

    Apropos new year's eve: I recall TVNZ ran a live music show to countdown midnight. T'was about early 1980s. On this particular show (mid-1980s), everyone got really pissed and Andrew Fagan and Karen Hay (host of RWP at the time) pashed. I think they did NYE music video shows in subsequent years.

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 175 posts Report Reply

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