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Hard News: History is now

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  • Kumara Republic,

    50 pages and nearly 1000 responses. Surely a record breaker.

    It's nearing the record set by the Veitch thread so far.

    A big hand to the incoming Obama presidency.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Rather they are looking at the Bush mythology of "us" versus "them" as if there were some deep, fundamental difference of essence and then pulling the rug out from underneath it

    First, I don't think that's a mindset peculiar to George Walker Bush but moving on... I think you've put a finger on why my favourite character on BSG is Caprica Six -- whose arc from the mini-series (the mercy killing of that baby in the market was the moment I really got something remarkable was happening) to the muthafraking doozy of a cliff-hanger she's on hasn't pulled the rug on "us" and "them". It has left that character in a place so far beyond "us" and "them" -- so full of the audacity of hope, all mixed up with guilt and wonder and shame and uncertainty -- it truly is awesome.

    In a funny way, it's almost a shame Tricia Helfer so effortlessly fills out a well-cut red dress, because the quality of her work seldom gets the praise it deserves. Miracles of miracles -- a model-slash-actor who can act!

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite,

    Can we agree to agree?

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Can we agree to agree?

    If we must - just don't make a habit of it. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Can we agree to agree?

    In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    :

    . . . his bedroom had deep, deep purple walls, a forest green carpet, and banana yellow ceiling. And flashing strings of LED lights nailed to the walls.

    I'm wondering if this was a very long time ago and the teenage son was Richard Prebble. Because apart from the LED lights he used to dress like that.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

    Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and on and on until you fall in a hole at the end.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    I'll just drag this thread a little further off-topic...

    the mercy killing of that baby in the market was the moment I really got something remarkable was happening

    Interesting that you interpreted that as a 'mercy killing'. I read it more as having more of a teenage-type jealousy/wonder-what-happens-if-I-do-this/because-I-can component to it.

    Which might fit in more neatly with what you were saying ealier about the cylons being teenagers. They don't necessarily think through their actions fully, they're not fully in control of their emotional responses, and they do stuff on impulse just to see what happens.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Jolisa,

    I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

    Yes we can!

    Auckland, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 1472 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and on and on until you fall in a hole at the end.

    And there are nowhere near so many hot people.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    Otherwise you're just a guy with crap on your shoes.

    LOL indeed. That's a keeper!

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Angus Robertson,

    It's nearing the record set by the Veitch thread so far.

    Imagine how big the thread will be when Tony Vietch wins an election

    Auckland • Since May 2007 • 984 posts Report Reply

  • Angus Robertson,

    Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and on and on until you fall in a hole at the end.

    To quote Marx: "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."

    Auckland • Since May 2007 • 984 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

    Only if we make that Science Fiction and West Wing. Which is starting to creep me out with the similarities. I think Aaron Sorkin is actually the Wizard of Oz, pulling the strings behind the US govt.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    I think Aaron Sorkin is actually the Wizard of Oz

    I dread to think what that makes Studio 60.

    (Btw, I have received far too many compliments during this thread. Thanks. :) Also, Islander, if only I was anywhere near Kaikoura!)

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Savidge,

    Fickle bastards...

    Obama's just yesterday's news now eh?

    Thread.....dying.....must....keep...alive....with...slight...SF...correlation

    Somewhere near Wellington… • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I am a little concerned about the satirists now, though. "Oh Bush impression, I'll miss you the most"...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    I could cope with all the fussing and fighting on this thread, but not with the Sci-Fi. People, there is a big grown-up world out there, which is filled with much better stories, both real and imaginary, than you will find on those children's programmes you watch.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    You are being satirical, huh Paul?

    Btw, I have received far too many compliments during this thread.

    You are so gracious, Danielle. So gracious.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    I am a little concerned about the satirists now, though. "Oh Bush impression, I'll miss you the most"...

    A great moment, that.

    Stewart and company will survive. Joe Biden will doubtless provide adequate gaffes to keep things tipping over, and - failing a miracle - the GOP will remain a hotbed of wingnutry. Especially if they keep Palin on.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1609 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Sorry, should have been "ticking" not "tipping"... must have had stumbles of various kinds on my mind.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1609 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    I could cope with all the fussing and fighting on this thread, but not with the Sci-Fi. People, there is a big grown-up world out there, which is filled with much better stories, both real and imaginary, than you will find on those children's programmes you watch.

    Tell me, do you have much trouble eating and drinking with that sneer on your face?

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    No no, Rich. You misunderstand. Paul is cleverly affecting that pompous, pretentious attitude, for the purposes of mocking just the sort of sneering tosser he is feigning. It was all done tongue in cheek. That's right, huh Paul?

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    @Craig
    Thanks for the pointer to the Newsweek series. Fascinating reading.

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite,

    To quote Marx: "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."

    To quote Philip K. Dick (and he'd know): "Reality is that which refuses to go away when you stop believing in it."

    I could cope with all the fussing and fighting on this thread, but not with the Sci-Fi. People, there is a big grown-up world out there, which is filled with much better stories, both real and imaginary, than you will find on those children's programmes you watch.

    Ha ha. Try Dave Langford's regular "As Others See Us" quotes on Ansible.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

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