The US has decided to boycott the UN racism conference

They also boycotted the 2001 conference when under the Bush rule.

Israel again being the alleged catalyst.

The above is fake. The sod who wrote it has now informed me. Well done that man though. :)

Jokes.

Anybody want to trawl back through it and see what needs deleting?

I posted this in an irrelevent thread elsewhere in PA so will put it where it belongs...

>>>>
NZPA
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17-4-2009 8.43am

First sites shut down.

2…

(Rats).

"Fok you I won't do wot u tell me!"

— That guy from Rage Against the Machine. They're quite good, eh. I saw them at Big Day Out that time – wicked as man. The whole pit was goin' off. I would rate that in the top 5 of all…

...and I sincerely hope that's the last time we here the old 'wall street/mainstreet' metaphor. Not that it's a particularly baddie, just a little overused i felt.

Just slightly off on a tangent here, whilst I have an opening of sorts – I remember hearing a piece on NatRad recently…

And to boot to this day Ayers is not just unapologetic, he thinks he didn't do enough.

That sparked a brief period of discussion on the Bill Ayers/Obama matter.

[[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97112600|This interview on…

Tiso: The Predictatron! Good work sir.

That's nothing: Looky here! (I'll let you guess who gtiso is.)

"And they believed this time could be different. Disabled and not disabled. The United…the hope of a better day, Gracious call. I congratulate, I congratulate them, campaigned from his heart. The love of my life. And you have earned the new puppy.

I miss them…

I actually found that Africa thing hard to believe, but hey, it came from Fox News.

Oh crap.

...here is the Huffington Post article with the story and vid.

__Palin was apparently a nightmare for her campaign staff to deal with. She refused preparation help for her interview with Katie Couric and then blamed her staff, specifically Nicole Wallace, when the interview…

Yeah but the fun part is watching the crazies out froth each other as the pro and anti Palin camps go after each other. I've spent a day rummaging through it all. It truly rocks.

Argh! The weight of all the reading and video-watching and general interweb-experience related to this…

Is anyone else loving the steady drip-drip-drip of revelations about how totally frickin' off the wall Palin actually is?

Yeah but the fun part is watching the crazies out froth each other as the pro and anti Palin camps go after each other. I've spent a day rummaging through it…

I could cope with all the fussing and fighting on this thread, but not with the Sci-Fi. People, there is a big grown-up world out there, which is filled with much better stories, both real and imaginary, than you will find on those children's programmes you watch.

Oooh... lookit, there's…

"John McCain's IQ = 138

Are you Smarter than the next President? Take the IQ Quiz Now!"

I am indeed LOLing. A great end to the week.

Today's tasters are:

– Didn't know Africa was a continent rather than a country.

– Couldn't name the three countries in the NAFTA.

Wow.

there is one American resident in the settlement. Who is married to a German. They'll be voting tomorrow. They spent much of yesterday afternoon & evening with a 6th generation NZer, who matches their combined ages, and used to be…

To quote Marx: "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."

To quote Philip K. Dick (and he'd know): "Reality is that which refuses to go away when you stop believing in it."

I could cope with all the fussing and fighting…

I could cope with all the fussing and fighting on this thread, but not with the Sci-Fi. People, there is a big grown-up world out there, which is filled with much better stories, both real and imaginary, than you will find on those children's programmes you watch.

Tell me, do…

I am a little concerned about the satirists now, though. "Oh Bush impression, I'll miss you the most"...

A great moment, that.

Stewart and company will survive. Joe Biden will doubtless provide adequate gaffes to keep things tipping over, and – failing a miracle – the GOP will remain a…

Btw, I have received far too many compliments during this thread.

You are so gracious, Danielle. So gracious.

Obama's just yesterday's news now eh?

Thread.....dying.....must....keep...alive....with...slight...SF...correlation

I think Aaron Sorkin is actually the Wizard of Oz

I dread to think what that makes Studio 60.

(Btw, I have received far too many compliments during this thread. Thanks. :) Also, Islander, if only I was anywhere near Kaikoura!)

In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

Only if we make that Science Fiction and West Wing. Which is starting to creep me out with the…

Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and on and on until you fall in a hole at the end.

To quote Marx: "I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."…

It's nearing the record set by the Veitch thread so far.

Imagine how big the thread will be when Tony Vietch wins an election

Otherwise you're just a guy with crap on your shoes.

LOL indeed. That's a keeper!

Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and on and on until you fall in a hole at the end.

And there are nowhere near so many hot people.

I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

Yes we can!

the mercy killing of that baby in the market was the moment I really got something remarkable was happening

Interesting that you interpreted that as a 'mercy killing'. I read it more as having more of a teenage-type jealousy/wonder-what-happens-if-I-do-this/because-I-can component to…

In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

Too bloody right. I have seen reality, and it has no satisfactory narrative structure. It just dribbles on and…

. . . his bedroom had deep, deep purple walls, a forest green carpet, and banana yellow ceiling. And flashing strings of LED lights nailed to the walls.

I'm wondering if this was a very long time ago and the teenage son was Richard Prebble. Because apart from the…

Can we agree to agree?

In the spirit of that, I'd like to say that I now believe, that if we all work together, there is nothing, nothing that we can't make be all about science-fiction.

Can we agree to agree?

If we must – just don't make a habit of it. :)

Rather they are looking at the Bush mythology of "us" versus "them" as if there were some deep, fundamental difference of essence and then pulling the rug out from underneath it

First, I don't think that's a mindset peculiar to George Walker Bush but moving on... I think you've put…

50 pages and nearly 1000 responses. Surely a record breaker.

It's nearing the record set by the Veitch thread so far.

A big hand to the incoming Obama presidency.

I'm going to paint my bedroom black!

We bought our first house off a single mother with a teenage son. She'd repainted the interior to make it look nicer and drive up the sale price. This strategy might have worked if she hadn't got her son to do the actual…

I mentioned upthread that Tuesday was, according to Akamai, the biggest day ever for traffic to news websites.

El-e-vate!

.

Nice.

In before 1000...

Wait! Danielle has wheels???

Choice, that will make running away with her so much easier.

Until you get to the first set of stairs.

Bugger.

El-e-vate!

My big bad. Will avoid spoilage — or properly tag it — in future. And you might want to cover your eyes, because my response to Kracklite CONTAINS MILD SPOILERS FOR LATE SEASON TWO AND THREE OF BSG.

Who wrote:

OK, really putting my geek on here, but it…

Your wish is my command.

Well, since we're discussing Battlestar Galactica a little bit, that should be "By your command."

And Jake, Romo Lampkin doesn't really have a leg injury, Baltar grows a beard for a while and the final cylon is- mmmph mmm mmmmph...!

Wait! Danielle has wheels???

Choice, that will make running away with her so much easier.

Until you get to the first set of stairs.

Based almost entirely on enthusiastic discussions on this very forum, I have recently begun watching Battlestar Galactica. I have just started season 2, and am enjoying it very much. If we could refrain from publishing spoilers in random PA threads, I would be grateful.

Me, too. Just watched the 3-ep…

Wait! Danielle has wheels???

Choice, that will make running away with her so much easier.

A post-election post from Jolisa would be very sweet.

Your wish is my command.

By the way, Danielle, you are the sweetest cheer-germ ever and you more than deserve a pony for keeping it happy in here. I say we get some pompoms and start a cheerleading squad along side…

And Luke: The Veitch thread reached…

Morgan Freeman it is then.

OK, really putting my geek on here, but it has to be said that Eick and Moore have done a splendid job in creating a series whose overall message is clearly opposed to that of the Bush presidency's…

Indeed, but surely we'd both vote for Roslin?

Let's review the record:

1) Banned abortion.

2) Despite having 'plausible deniability', her chief of staff was a central player in election fraud that (almost) stole an election.

3) Chose a running mate (Gaius Baltar) who makes Sarah Palin look... well, presidental.…

I'm going to paint my bedroom black!"

Because the value of the house hasn't gone far enough down the crapper... :)

But here's a bit of light relief from John Scalzi: What Can Our Next President Learn From His SciFi Counterparts?

My favourite:

President: Tom Beck of Deep Impact(Morgan Freeman)…

ertainly take sides if your loyalties require Russell.
i mean whatever suits you.
even after you post, I'm still getting digs like

"Everyone's so mean to me! Nobody knows what it's like, nobody understands what it's like being a teenager now! I'm going to paint my bedroom black!"

I never even got that pony Russell said everyone was going to get.

Really? I got two! They make a mess of the yard, but the roses have never looked so good.

heh. i *demand* that everyone make the billy-goat-gruff jokes whenever james turns up.

I was going to suggest we just start cyber-chanting: "IN! YOUR! FACE!. IN! YOUR! FACE!. IN! YOUR! FACE! IN! YOUR! FACE!."

But that would be gloating and rude, so I won't.

I was a polling analyst for Mark Penn and Doug Schoen in 1995, when we were brought in by Dick Morris and Bill Clinton to do the polling for Clinton’s…

Oh, Paul Rowe, you were wondering about those elderly Jewish voters: the exit polls said the Jewish vote split 78:21, which is higher than for Kerry. Which is entirely expected. The Jewish vote in the US is generally Democratic, pro-choice, pro-civil rights issues.

Wow, Stephen , long memory. :)

My…

Oh, good, the micromanaging of Barack has finally begun. He'd been president-elect for nearly 36 hours, I was starting to get worried.

Gio: This is the prose of government after the poetry of the campaign, and I think we've eight years of evidence that the boys in the backroom do…

Oh, good, the micromanaging of Barack has finally begun.

I guess it beats frotting oneself senseless over Palin in '012, which seems to be the preferred form of grief management in the deeper recesses of kiwiblog etc.

thank you to Craig, Ben Wilson, Steve Parks, Eleanor, Che, Bob Hosking et al who were patient enough to endure me today.

Is endure the new word for ignore?

Does Obama really want to bring the endless Clinton psychodramatics back?

Oh, good, the micromanaging of Barack has finally begun. He'd been president-elect for nearly 36 hours, I was starting to get worried.

The best Rahm Emanuel story is not the one about the decomposing two-and-a-half-foot…

thank you to Craig, Ben Wilson, Steve Parks, Eleanor, Che, Bob Hosking et al who were patient enough to endure me today.

Hey, I'm pretty glad people have been putting up with my sleep-deprived scatty witterings...

Craig, that newsweek stuff's great (but then, I'm high on all this hope nonsense,…

So ...Well friggin' make some sort of argument instead of being all passive-aggressive and snotty about everyone else here.

It didn't start there, it started a little earlier, on page 40; I suggested there seemed to be more celebration in NZ over the election of a black president than…

Heh. Palin's wardrobe was very much unauthorised, she just took herself on a party-paid-for spending spree. Thank the twelve gods that particular person is far from the white house and clearly facing wrath…

Wait! Danielle has wheels???

I'm jealous too, I never even got that pony Russell said everyone was going to get.

3. Obama will not give you everything you want, when you want it. Since Obama seems to have this crazy idea that he might want to be president of the whole damn country, I think he’s going…

As in the previous editions, "How He Did It, 2008" is an inside, behind-the-scenes account of the presidential election produced by a special team of reporters working for…

And you don't underestimate my appetite. You wouldn't tell for my lithe physique, but I can eat my weight in beef Stroganoff.

Don't get too ambitious — unless I can negotiate a rather generous pay bump from Mister Brown, and find another day job PDQ.

How about the Palin bet, then, Craig. Are we on?

So on — I wouldn't mind losing, but never underestimate the GOP's ability to not only divorce itself from reason, but cheat on it with it's sister.

And you don't underestimate my appetite. You wouldn't tell for my lithe physique,…

then I had to tear a new one to Denis Welch

Wait, what? Is this thread so long that I've forgotten huge swathes of it?

Sorry, yes, a bit cryptic there – Stephen linked to the otherwise excellent blog by Denis Welch and it was exactly one wet blanket statement…

How about the Palin bet, then, Craig. Are we on?

So on — I wouldn't mind losing, but never underestimate the GOP's ability to not only divorce itself from reason, but cheat on it with it's sister.

etc etc

Well, yes. Chanting "the world is voting left" is about as…

the way JP Donleavy used to finish chapters, especially if the characters were having sex.

You saying maybe Taslov was only typing with one hand?

Well, what a charming apology that isn't!

It should be noted that I laughed out loud when I read Mark's 'apology'. I'm thinking the unspoken second clause after 'I'm sure that's not the worst thing you've ever been called' might be something like 'because you're a total bitch on wheels'.…

Did it start here?

heh. i *demand* that everyone make the billy-goat-gruff jokes whenever james turns up.

the second-most fun i've had all day.

. . . spending alot of time recently with your head in the sand . . .

Jackie, from your trick or treat story over in the other thread it'd seem that, as far as the Things That Really Matter go, your head is in a pretty good place.

Of course, Palin's whacko Christianity and Jew-baiting…

Also we may be feeling a whole lot less jubilant on Saturday.

Lalalalalalala I can't hear you.

Are you, like me, Danielle, spending alot of time recently with your head in the sand? It's quite comfortable I must say. I'm rather enjoying it, until I have to go to the…

This is what happens: you go away for a couple of days and the messages accumulate in your absence (949 postings!!). I don't suppose anyone wants to provide a precis of this particular thread?

Lessee... It would appear that America elected its first black president. There were pictures of Kenyans…

Nader calling Obama an "Uncle Tom" yesterday was a pathetic act that suggests nothing so much as that Nader should just retire from public life before he further embarrasses himself. It was an extraordinary act of arrogance from a man who is 30 years past his use-by date.

Khrist, he…

I'm sure shrew wasn't the worst thing you've ever been called

Well, what a charming apology that isn't!

When I get drunk (as I am now, in fact), I'm very amorous and sentimental.

At least I assume Mr Taslov is drunk – that is the most charitable interpretation I can…

Did it start here?

@Mark

well mixing it up would have been a little more interesting, very little written here this year about Ralph Nadar. understandably... I…

He is however the first 1/2BPOTUS.

Jefferson had black kids ... does that count?

I don't have to be an election junkie any more

Mark injected some life in with the worlds mildest troll, and was a bit shocked that a generally jubilant chorus had found their first victim. Or faux shocked I think.

Personally…

nah, you're right to be over the moon. it was a monumental day.

agreed

Sorry if i caused any offense Danielle, I'm sure shrew wasn't the worst thing you've ever been called, and again i should clarify it's a bit of a delayed reaction to the 'baby making machines'. enjoy…

l

I just saw a clip of Maya Angelou reciting 'I Rise' on the CBS Early Show this morning

Fantastic. And thank you for restoring sanity (or is it the insanity of happiness?) to the thread.

we all need our leaders to represent us. it's what democracy is all about.

sometimes instead of a full stop i just leave a space…

Punctuation makes things readable. And lack of it changes meaning.

ibis redibis non morieris in bello

just saying...

I'd argue nothing a 6th form english student couldn't get the basic gist of.

I'd hope the 6th form English student could do a better job of editing and proofing it.

Seriously, dude.

Punctuation makes things readable. And lack of it changes meaning.

surely if you don't get it you jsut leave well alone

i'll give you another shot though, because admittedly it may a…

joe what?
i'm reacting to the number of headlines and articles centred around the fact that he's not white. beyond that i'm not interested in his ancestory. like i said above, not a 'black' man, but a 'good' man. as a real piece of work you mean, someone who is…

the world is voting left.

Except in Canada

etc etc

mark taslov: is this what you were trying to say?

Thanks for the link, Stephen. I found the piece infuriating but at least it was coherent... :-)

Except in Canada.

And France. And Germany. And the British Tories aren't doing too badly nowadays.

Craig..that's kinda the point I think we were trying to make. The whole labelling thing was getting ridiculous.

Oh crap – peace breaks out again. Try calling me a liberal lick-spittle, that always roils the blood. :)

the world is voting left.

Except in Canada. Still, if I was Key…

I agree with everything you said there, so please direct the vitriol elsewhere, thanks.

It's kind of hard to tell, because you seem to be spoiling for a fight so hard you're incoherent.

John Key's presidential-style flying tour hit its first hiccup this afternoon as the National leader was met in Christchurch by Labour supporters chanting "the world is voting left".

the world is voting left.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4751942a28435.html

Craig, I thinking you're over-reading my comment if you think I was being offensive. It was an honest view of how the US (and a lot others) use the label...

Can get we just fucking get over it? His mother is white, his father is black. He's of mixed-race heritage…

Heh, I can see it now "Is it 'cos I is white?"

Those half-black foreign power brokers are always holding me down man...
=P

IMHO Michelle Obama will be the hottest First Lady of all time.

Just a personal opinion; always thought Jackie Kennedy was slightly overrated.

To suggest I was trying to question his "colouredness"

Heh, I can see it now "Is it 'cos I is white?"

I haven't been so systematically maligned since the abortion debate.

Just don't mention you drive an SUV.

Just sayin'

Mark: The only way to do that is repeal the Twenty Second Amendment to the Constitution.

Yeah, I hear you craig, it's nothing short of wishful thinking, but a man's gotta dream...glad you showed up when you did. I haven't been so systematically maligned since the abortion debate.

I'm just expressing thoughts about the the whole labelling thing in general.

I'm a little speechless... but I understand where your coming from.

I agree with you Gareth...

though it does raise an interesting dilemma. The colour of his skin does matter.

Imagine if his mother was black and dad was white, and his skin colour was really really tanned not as black as it is.

What then? Would he be…

Troy – False.
Black is pretty definitional in the US. They don't really do half/half. He's certainly got about the best claim I've ever heard to the term "African/American"though!

Guys do I really need to stay awake long enough to explain how that ever so slightly offensive. What the hell…

because i like the name eleanor, reminds me of the four term FDR, and the impossible dream that somehow obama (assuming he's as good as everyone's hoping he'll be) could somehow lift the two term limit.

Mark: The only way to do that is repeal the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution|Twenty Second Amendment to…

Sudan – to solve the humanitarian crisis in Darfur.
Pakistan – the just part of the GWoT.
Iran – they have/haven't a nuclear program.
Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans – reprising the Clinton years.

He is however the first 1/2BPOTUS.

True/False?

Imagine if McCain had had a connection, however tenuous, with Eric Rudolf, the abortion clinic bomber. People would have gone spastic about it and quite correctly.

Fucking Nora's low-hanging tittie, do you really want to argue that McCain's collection of endorsements from batshit apocalyptic anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic pastors got even one…

Surely you could have just hit yourself on the head?

I have never been known to pass up an opportunity for self promotion.

what kind of puppy will the kids get?

The People for Ethical Treatment of Animals wrote to the Obamas saying that a purebred would be “elitist.”
=|
Even the goldendoodles need love PETA

and the way
there is a total
lack
of punctuation or capitalisation
its like readiing
e e cummings but
crap

*applauds* I have a soft spot for cu... oh crap, there's a sentence I'd best not finish.

Yeah... I was thinking, "why is he picking on ME so much?"

I…

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Anyone know what publication had the "behind the scenes on election day with the Obama's" reporters? Embedded journalism that I'd quite like to see, stage managed as it may be.
Time perhaps?

Newsweek, I think. The last two editions, dedicated to the campaigns, were pure poli-geek porn.

what i like most about mark's posts is the way they kind of break into rap, or modern poetry

I was thinking it was more the way JP Donleavy used to finish chapters, especially if the characters were having sex.

Thank you. I had spent good money in booze to try to forget that particular show.

Surely you could have just hit yourself on the head?

But the burning question, which I suggest we…

None of it on Youtube, unfortunately. There is though a magnificent bit of Peter Cook as a British PM trying to stamp out the real causes of unemployment.

Yeah Eleanor,

sure Eleanor,

yes Eleanor

A minor point, easily missed."

Much like my name, apparently.

Yeah... I was thinking, "why is he picking on ME so much?"

what i like most about mark's posts is the way they kind of break into rap, or modern poetry of some variety,
nearing the end,
of what ever he had to say,
as if unwinding,
or running out of puff.

and the way
there is a total
lack
of punctuation…

We kinda don't have much choice. Would you have preferred us to be RonPaulacated?

as far most PUBASSES are concerned xmas is probably going to be on Saturday. What else are we going to talk about between now and then?

FPOTUS...Wasn't that Geena Davis?

Thank you. I had spent good money in booze to try to forget that particular show.