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Hard News: Friday Music: Starting Early

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  • Mike O'Connell,

    Oh Lorde, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz? You've just won a Grammy, you must make amends.

    At least a concert in the South Island - I'm counting on you Lorde, don't let me down!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 385 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    What a collection of excellent music here today (or so I must assume for a few hours, if I'm not to blow the work data-cap).

    It is incumbent upon the major media outlets (and there aren't that many) to get together and decide that some parts of a child's life aren't public, even if that child is a very public person. (I'd like to think they could apply this to humans, but that's Damian Christie's thread over there >).

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Broods has some seriously good PR happening. The first time I heard of them was via a retweet of a BBC Radio 1 DJ enthusing over "Bridges", and with their EP release today, there's Vogue magazine raving about it (and it's very _Vogue_).

    It got me thinking. In the time before Lorde, the expected path a NZ artist would take was touring NZ, then moving to Australia, then pushing to break the UK or America. But both Lorde and Broods have managed to create substantial buzz without having a reputation as a live act, and without having to take a day job working in a Melbourne bar. Yeah, they both do good live shows, but they're primarily known for their recorded work. There's something pleasingly modern about that.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari,

    Lorde as I've already siad in the other thread was well special - for me it was the children and their parents, such a pleasure to witness young fans attending what I expect was their first concert... Thanks to the promoters, the council et al as well as Lorde and her management team for making it so.

    Went to the Adults and the APO last night and they were incredible - I saw a tweet by Jackson, hopefully he got some photos to share here? (prob not given the security). Two renditions of nothing to lose with Ladi6 on the mic... wow. Possibly a first to see everyone at this sort of concert standing and jiggling along for the encore and the orchestra players looking at this and grinning like loons.

    For fans of beats, follow the people that posted that BBC 6 mix - they upload a lot of the shows and they are all worthy of listening to, wonderful music and clever radio programming to boot

    Its going to be a great year for music, I feel, cheers for the links

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    That doesn’t make it a “tirade” or her a “diva”.

    No it doesn't, and the delicate petals of the local press need to 1) harden the fuck up and 2) thank the Gods Old and New Lorde hasn't received social media training from Alec Baldwin.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to bob daktari,

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    Went to the Adults and the APO last night and they were incredible

    Weren’t they? I was reminded of how different songs on that album can come up behind you and kick you in the pants. Part of Me was fantastic, but I was also happy they played Nothing to Lose twice. Ladi6 was superb. I could have gone a third.

    The APO was also wonderful of course, although I could have handled a bit more volume from them, as there was a sense they were playing second fiddle to the band. Which I guess they were.

    And yes, photos were ‘verboten’. But what I like about taking sneaky pictures at The Edge is the social media crew on their spot are usually the first to retweet them.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Graham Dunster,

    Marlon Williams & Delaney Davidson's new record is out today - Sad But True Volume 3. It has the sublime instant classic 'Minnie Dean' on it, once heard never forgotten. These guys - along with Tami Neilson - have been slogging around the country over the past year doing great performances (and I don't even like country music!) so it'd be great to see them get some sales. Vinyl and cd, too!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2009 • 184 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    It got me thinking. In the time before Lorde, the expected path a NZ artist would take was touring NZ, then moving to Australia, then pushing to break the UK or America

    I think the mould was broken by the early Flying Nun bands - for example The Clean became global champions of the alt scene without following that route. And lest we forget Pauly Fuemana topped the US charts while he was based in Grey's Avenue.

    Talking of The Clean - part 2 of their story, all scrutinized and fact checked by David Kilgour, the band's unofficial historian, has just gone live today on AudioCulture, in time for tonight's gig.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    Lorde's going through her Anna Paquin phase: winning a big, important trophy very early on and the NZ media goes all ga-ga over it. But - hopefully - like Paquin she'll now be able to enjoy continued success without the media going ga-ga to the same extent.

    Paquin's been all over TV lately in True Blood and is a reasonably big name, but I doubt there'll be a media scrum next time she flies into NZ. If Lorde's still a big name in 10 years time, I doubt there'll be many scrums for her, either.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 760 posts Report Reply

  • Alan Perrott,

    just to post a couple of diversions from all the serious chat...

    found this in a Panmure chazza the other day, the cover didn't look particularly promising, but I couldn't leave a version of I Walk the Line for cheap. It starts off on the kinda latin country, but once the redoubtable Hal Blaines' drums and the trebly guitar kick in it almost goes all surf on it. liner notes reckon Johnny Cash is in there someone as well.

    then, I heard this piece of awesomeness on a Jazzman Records podcast. must find...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 438 posts Report Reply

  • Alan Perrott,

    also, just had my day/ weekend/ week made by hearing Wire will be back in town on Feb 17 - and finally they'll be playing the Powerstation.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 438 posts Report Reply

  • Mike O'Connell, in reply to Graham Dunster,

    Graham, Minnie Dean is on SBT vol. 2. Unless vol. 3 has another version on it? A classic nevertheless. Vol. 1 at least was released on vinyl.

    Delaney and Marlon (sans Tami) kicked off the Sad But True III tour last night in ...Mapua. Yep, playing in lots of cool little places like Okarito, Riverton and Onewhero through Feb.

    Re: Minnie Dean, here's Marlon performing said tune on a Melbourne rooftop:

    I love that rather macabre line, 'winters in the south make the heart beat slow, but hearts beat slower in the garden below'.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 385 posts Report Reply

  • Graham Dunster, in reply to Mike O'Connell,

    Haven't actually had time to play the new disc/s yet (free cd with the lp!) and had forgotten that Vol 2 is already in the house - belatedly comparing track lists both 'Minnie Dean' and 'Whiskey & Kisses' seem to be on both Vol 2 and 3. Will compare aurally when I escape the treadmill.
    Will check the tour dates and hope they're in a slightly bigger Auckland venue this time. Newmarket was.... intimate.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2009 • 184 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

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    From Audioculture's Bored Games profile, Jeff Harford's pic of a very young Shayne Carter, next to the late Wayne Elsey, playing his school dance in 1979. What a wonderful pic.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Graham Dunster, in reply to Alan Perrott,

    Bummer! Delaney & Marlon @ the Wine Cellar or Wire? Rats...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2009 • 184 posts Report Reply

  • Mike O'Connell, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Looks like it could have been taken yesterday, it's that clear and doesn't really look dated.

    I note Wayne is on bass. I recall one rollicking song in the Stones' live sets where he would swap his guitar for Jeff Batts' bass. Can hear the tune in my head but don't know the song title.

    Any word BTW on Bruce Russell's plans to release a live collection of The Stones alongside studio-captured material (as per the 'last word' in the Stones Audioculture profile)?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 385 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    And lest we forget Pauly Fuemana topped the US charts while he was based in Grey's Avenue.

    OMG, OMC! That'll teach me to write without thinking things through properly.

    My original comment stemmed from seeing a couple of discussions on Facebook where rockist friends-of-friends were kind of complaining that Lorde hadn't earned her dues. Like, it's not fair she she hasn't sweated it out doing a tour of grimy pubs like _proper_ rock bands do.

    I'm trying to think of bands who've have significant international success in this route. Split Enz? But then, they got their big break via a TV talent show...

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Like, it’s not fair she she hasn’t sweated it out doing a tour of grimy pubs like _proper_ rock bands do.

    Yeah - it's so fucking unfair, eh? She spend a few short years honing some killer songwriting chops and had natural talent that - with others - look her to places those whinging naysayers will never reach no matter how many shitty stages they play their dues on.

    I've been in a couple of similar conversations too, with one person telling me that we'll find out what she's really made of when the next album turkeys. I replied that we've already found that out - 9 weeks at number one will exist forever even if she never releases another note. Why do people need to do this?

    Any word BTW on Bruce Russell’s plans to release a live collection of The Stones alongside studio-captured material (as per the ‘last word’ in the Stones Audioculture profile)?

    I understand it's 'progressing' - take that to mean what you wish.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report Reply

  • Jonathan Ganley, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    Talking of The Clean - part 2 of their story, all scrutinized and fact checked by David Kilgour, the band's unofficial historian, has just gone live today on AudioCulture, in time for tonight's gig.

    I notice that Andrew mentions a "piano-led take on ‘Point That Thing’ from a rare 1999 release, Slush Fund. I had never heard of it or heard it until now. It's good!

    Since Dec 2006 • 234 posts Report Reply

  • kiwicmc, in reply to Jonathan Ganley,

    Ohhh, that is good

    Auckland, New Zealand • Since May 2008 • 88 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    those whinging naysayers

    simon. sweetman.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    what goes around...
    I guess a roundel can't be copyrighted,
    but it irks me that a certain brewery has diluted the NZ Music Month 'target' brand with their one armed cricket catch promotion...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I also thought it a bit rich for NZ papers to claim Keith Urban as another Kiwi artist who has won a grammy - technically yes, but he left whangarei when he was two!
    He did all his growing up in Oz...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Jonathan Ganley,

    I notice that Andrew mentions a “piano-led take on ‘Point That Thing’ from a rare 1999 release, Slush Fund. I had never heard of it or heard it until now. It’s good!

    Me neither. I've seen The Clean play a keyboard-led version once or twice, but I had no idea such a release existed. Must now obtain!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Must now obtain!

    Good luck with that! Listed as tour promotional CD on Discogs.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

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