Field Theory: A moment of national significance
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Sacha, in reply to
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Key’s reception by the crowd at the final was lacklustre at best
And, to be fair, Len Brown's reception on the victory parade was muted too. I think we didn't really see a place for politicians in any of it.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
When both Stuff and Herald sites are carrying stories about Key’s over-eager trotie handshake, yes.
He managed to look like a doofus at both the beginning and the end of the tournament.
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This video is going around at the moment. 3 minutes, focused on the crowd.
It's pretty intense. And pretty beautiful. I'm hardly nationalistic, and while I love rugby the hype is a little much sometimes. But when I watch this... I understand.
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
That's wonderful. Captures how we were all feeling, I know.
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JacksonP, in reply to
I understand.
I hadn't really felt the kind of emotion everyone was expressing until I watched that video. Funny how seeing others live through the experience makes it more tangible. Have a feeling it will gain wide appeal that one.
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My favourite bit of over-emotionality was Mark Sainsbury on Close-Up asking John Key if Richie McCaw should be knighted (because that is how we recognize our heroes in New Zealand in 2011, isn't it, Mark?). Key wisely battered the question away, only for ol' Sainsbury to blather, "What about Sir Graham Henry, Sir Martin Sneddon..." Yes, Martin Sneddon should get a knighthood for organising a tournament. FFS.
I feel sorry for Key having to answer such stupid questions. Ideally, he shouldn't be asked anything, rugby has nothing to do with him.
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Sacha, in reply to
It's pretty intense. And pretty beautiful.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
It’s pretty intense. And pretty beautiful. I’m hardly nationalistic, and while I love rugby the hype is a little much sometimes. But when I watch this… I understand.
What I loved, and what I loved about the parade the next day, is that it shows us modern multi-cultural Auckland. It gave us common cause and it brought us out onto the streets together. I think that will have enduring benefit for our city.
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
Noticed all the National billboards had “Congratulations All Blacks”
I saw them and thought "how crass, claiming the ABs victory as a National election slogan" it just felt really icky
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
the PM appearing at various inappropriate (imho) places
I tend to disagree. The PM of the country should be present and visible at such an occassion.
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
I work out tension via movement
I ate - sausage rolls, little boys, chicken flavoured chips with dip ... oh and quite a nice Pinot :).
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BenWilson, in reply to
It gave us common cause and it brought us out onto the streets together. I think that will have enduring benefit for our city.
I hope it endures, but I don't think that's going to happen by itself. It's great that it got people out and about and socializing. But it's a bit sad for NZers that we need the RWC, and an All Blacks victory, to make it happen. This level of public engagement could happen all the time. Why doesn't it? Why don't we go out just to mingle, experience, hang out. It can't be about cost, because it doesn't have to cost.
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The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous. I thought it was the one time the Haka didn't confer an unfair advantage to the All Blacks.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
I hope it endures, but I don’t think that’s going to happen by itself. It’s great that it got people out and about and socializing. But it’s a bit sad for NZers that we need the RWC, and an All Blacks victory, to make it happen.
Oh ye of little faith;) We have Xmas on the way and a few get out for " Xmas in the park."
and then the Santa Parade. A few get out for that too.
In reality we get a multi cultural crowd for free stuff. The price dictates a lot of what happens in Auckland.
One thing I know is beneficial, is that, Len Brown is an inclusive Mayor and that by itself could help Auckland. I also felt our Mayor had a right to be amongst the Council Parade for the All Blacks yesterday. The Council also gave recognition to all the volunteers of who he walked amongst up Q St. He was in a 4wd for a while but he got out amongst the ordinary people who helped Auckland . -
Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
I tend to disagree. The PM of the country should be present and visible at such an occassion.
The PM got to do the trotie handshake on the podium, that's where he had a special spot.The changing rooms? What for?I find that rather intrusive no matter who is changing. It is a private room for the team and coach. If Graham Henry can't have his son join him on the field, Key shouldn't be in the changing rooms.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous.
It feels like a money grab one more time. Since when is a Haka so sacred it can't be challenged as a game of Rugby is . I don't understand why it is so precious or has the AB's got special conditions compared to the rest of the teams.
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MaoriTV commentary found the French response very appropriate. Apparently that's a traditional formation, so they'd done their research. IRB looking like rule-bound losers.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous. I thought it was the one time the Haka didn’t confer an unfair advantage to the All Blacks.
Incredibly Rapacious Buggers.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I hope it endures, but I don’t think that’s going to happen by itself. It’s great that it got people out and about and socializing. But it’s a bit sad for NZers that we need the RWC, and an All Blacks victory, to make it happen. This level of public engagement could happen all the time. Why doesn’t it? Why don’t we go out just to mingle, experience, hang out. It can’t be about cost, because it doesn’t have to cost.
I honestly think it's a step-change. But we'll need public spaces in which to meet each other, and events that give us common cause.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Yes I thought it very well received. I felt it quite appropriate under the circumstances, and , as you say seemed well understood by the French.
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JacksonP, in reply to
I felt it quite appropriate under the circumstances, and , as you say seemed well understood by the French.
All Blacks manager seems to agree with us.
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Sacha, in reply to
I found the incredulity of some commentators about crowd diversity revealing - about their own insularity. All those visitors come from cultures already living amongst us, especially the Pasifika ones. This seemed news to TVNZ especially.
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BenWilson, in reply to
All Blacks manager seems to agree with us.
Good on them. I made a mental note of every haka, and decided that the All Blacks won them all, except for one. What a difference to the score line.
I loved the dueling war dances that I got to see personally in my only attendance - Fiji vs Samoa. I think rugby needs more of that sort of thing, and the other national teams should come up with something. Waltzing Matilda was a pathetic comeback by the Ozzies, it's not like there's no indigenous people in their country to call upon for inspiration. They just act there there aren't, and not to their credit.
Hell, it looked to me like the All Blacks are making up new Hakas every time. It's good fun, a good spectacle, a good rarkup, and I really dig it.
They do a similar thing in Muay Thai. You can tell guys who have trained in Thailand because they do a lengthy ritual before a fight. It's quite intimidating, focusing, and just plain interesting. Sports are rituals, after all. More!
But we'll need public spaces in which to meet each other, and events that give us common cause.
More!
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Islander, in reply to
One day we are going to come and visit you Islander.xxx
You do that good people!
You would be MOST welcome!
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