Public Address | Cafe | Field Theory: A moment of national significance

Sacha

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:03:31 +1300

Speaking of moments of national significance..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Rc6fpZJ2k

Islander

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:00:35 +1300

One day we are going to come and visit you Islander.xxx

You do that good people!
You would be MOST welcome!

BenWilson

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:20:15 +1300

All Blacks manager seems to agree with us.

Good on them. I made a mental note of every haka, and decided that the All Blacks won them all, except for one. What a difference to the score line.

I loved the dueling war dances that I got to see personally…

Sacha

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:58:35 +1300

I found the incredulity of some commentators about crowd diversity revealing – about their own insularity. All those visitors come from cultures already living amongst us, especially the Pasifika ones. This seemed news to TVNZ especially.

JacksonP

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:56:59 +1300

I felt it quite appropriate under the circumstances, and , as you say seemed well understood by the French.

All Blacks manager seems to agree with us.

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:44:46 +1300

Yes I thought it very well received. I felt it quite appropriate under the circumstances, and , as you say seemed well understood by the French.

Russell Brown

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:18 +1300

I hope it endures, but I don’t think that’s going to happen by itself. It’s great that it got people out and about and socializing. But it’s a bit sad for NZers that we need the RWC, and an All Blacks victory, to make it happen. This level of public…

Kumara Republic

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:09:56 +1300

The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous. I thought it was the one time the Haka didn’t confer an unfair advantage to the All Blacks.

Incredibly Rapacious Buggers.

Sacha

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:05:25 +1300

MaoriTV commentary found the French response very appropriate. Apparently that's a traditional formation, so they'd done their research. IRB looking like rule-bound losers.

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:55:03 +1300

The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous.

It feels like a money grab one more time. Since when is a Haka so sacred it can't be challenged as a game of Rugby is . I don't understand why it is so precious or has…

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:45:13 +1300

I tend to disagree. The PM of the country should be present and visible at such an occassion.

The PM got to do the trotie handshake on the podium, that's where he had a special spot.The changing rooms? What for?I find that rather intrusive no matter who is changing. It…

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:39:32 +1300

Oh ye of little…

BenWilson

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:34:26 +1300

The French have been fined for confronting the Haka? That is fucking ridiculous. I thought it was the one time the Haka didn't confer an unfair advantage to the All Blacks.

BenWilson

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:11:58 +1300

It gave us common cause and it brought us out onto the streets together. I think that will have enduring benefit for our city.

I hope it endures, but I don't think that's going to happen by itself. It's great that it got people out and about and socializing. But…

Bart Janssen

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:48:24 +1300

I work out tension via movement

I ate – sausage rolls, little boys, chicken flavoured chips with dip ... oh and quite a nice Pinot :).

Bart Janssen

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:46:30 +1300

the PM appearing at various inappropriate (imho) places

I tend to disagree. The PM of the country should be present and visible at such an occassion.

Bart Janssen

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:44:32 +1300

Noticed all the National billboards had “Congratulations All Blacks”

I saw them and thought "how crass, claiming the ABs victory as a National election slogan" it just felt really icky

Russell Brown

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:43:28 +1300

It’s pretty intense. And pretty beautiful. I’m hardly nationalistic, and while I love rugby the hype is a little much sometimes. But when I watch this… I understand.

What I loved, and what I loved about the parade the next day, is that it shows us modern multi-cultural Auckland. It…

Sacha

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:29:35 +1300

It's pretty intense. And pretty beautiful.

James W

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:52:24 +1300

My favourite bit of over-emotionality was Mark Sainsbury on Close-Up asking John Key if Richie McCaw should be knighted (because that is how we recognize our heroes in New Zealand in 2011, isn't it, Mark?). Key wisely battered the question away, only for ol' Sainsbury to blather, "What about Sir…

JacksonP

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:07:43 +1300

I understand.

I hadn't really felt the kind of emotion everyone was expressing until I watched that video. Funny how seeing others live through the experience makes it more tangible. Have a feeling it will gain wide appeal that one.

Jackie Clark

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:59:51 +1300

That's wonderful. Captures how we were all feeling, I know.

George Darroch

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:45:33 +1300

This video is going around at the moment. 3 minutes, focused on the crowd.

http://vimeo.com/31010288

It's pretty intense. And pretty beautiful. I'm hardly nationalistic, and while I love rugby the hype is a little much sometimes. But when I watch this... I understand.

Russell Brown

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:26:27 +1300

When both Stuff and Herald sites are carrying stories about Key’s over-eager trotie handshake, yes.

He managed to look like a doofus at both the beginning and the end of the tournament.

Russell Brown

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:25:29 +1300

Key’s reception by the crowd at the final was lacklustre at best

And, to be fair, Len Brown's reception on the victory parade was muted too. I think we didn't really see a place for politicians in any of it.

Sacha

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:15:33 +1300

He has over-egged that particular pudding, methinks

When both Stuff and Herald sites are carrying stories about Key's over-eager trotie handshake, yes.

Steve Barnes

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:11:46 +1300

Why does John Key keep referring to us as they?
Personally, I’d like someone to tell the media to stop talking in the majestic plural.
He refers to us as "they" because he is not one of us.
Well Craig I can understand why that upsets you. We, is a…

Tom Semmens

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:08:49 +1300

If National are truly planning to win an outright mandate by simply getting Key photographed with the All Blacks as much as possible and claiming they are not responsible for the economy then their complacency may get a rude shock. Key's reception by the crowd at the final was lacklustre…

Lucy Stewart

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:11:38 +1300

By the 70 minute mark I think I'd accepted the idea that we were going to lose, that there would be some heartbreaking moment that would take it away. Even after the whistle, it took a wee bit to come right.

I work out tension via movement, so I was…

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:10:24 +1300

Noticed all the National billboards had “Congratulations All Blacks” plastered across them. I can see what’s going to happen now “Labour didn’t congratulate the All Blacks” says John…
:-[

Whatever.

Why does John Key keep referring to us as they?

Personally, I'd like someone to tell the media to stop…

merc

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:59:55 +1300

Why does John Key keep referring to us as they?

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:49:48 +1300

Manstream politics...
I feel the election will be just as close and the incumbent
bunch of slime-balls will be sent packing.
We're counting on you,
on November 26th,
to take the piss,
at the right time!

no pressure...

:- )

Mike Graham

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:51:36 +1300

For a party that not all that long ago had a mantra "Politics shouldn't interfere in sport", it seems to have changed somewhat, especially with the PM appearing at various inappropriate (imho) places – next to the ABs singing the anthem, the ABs changing room after the game...

Steve Barnes

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:06:18 +1300

So, just got back from a trip to the supermarket, people seem to be quite "UP".
Noticed all the National billboards had "Congratulations All Blacks" plastered across them. I can see what's going to happen now "Labour didn't congratulate the All Blacks" says John...
:-[

Tom Semmens

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:31:39 +1300

We caught the train back to town, and as icing on our cake our carriage was full of Argentinian rugby fans who turned the ride into a raucous demonstration of what a Boca Juniors game might be like.

Dave Patrick

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:29:30 +1300

Whoever coached them to kick away possession deserves a slap.

Absolutely – we stopped playing the way we'd been playing all tournament and started playing the way everyone else who we'd beaten had played We're the ones who are supposed to field aimless kicks and counter-attack with a vengeance. Damn…

Steve Barnes

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:50:02 +1300

I must unreservedly apologise to the entire country. 46 minutes into the game I had to take a leak, 'twas the beers you see.
Nek minnit.
When I returned I couldn't work out why the crowd was in shock.
One bloody point eh?
I feel the election will be just…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:11:23 +1300

Congratulations Geoff. You must feel proud to watch the outcome of the fruits of your Labour. Happy Labour Day. Nekminnit :)

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:10:53 +1300

By the 70 minute mark I think I’d accepted the idea that we were going to lose, that there would be some heartbreaking moment that would take it away. Even after the whistle, it took a wee bit to come right.

Nah, I’m actually pretty glad the Cocks made the…

BenWilson

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:10:25 +1300

For today, let's celebrate what a great party we put on. Let's celebrate a day off. And let's celebrate Spring, in all her glory. We have a lot of stuff to sort out, but that stuff will be there tomorrow.

Snap. The euphoria from sporting wins has been, in my…

Geoff Lealand

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:49:29 +1300

Great, Ben. But provide some shelter for your tomatoes for they will suffer if night-time temperatures fall below 10c.
We are about to have a bbq, to celebrate one of my Chinese students graduating with a PhD this week, the burst of spring and, of course, last night's victory--and the…

BenWilson

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:24:51 +1300

Nice way to spend a Labour Weekend.

First, tomato and capsicum planting. Bloody good exercise, gardening, the kids like it too.

Second, a couple of days away at Waiheke. Kayaking and swimming, and Ozzie beating Wales.

Third, the Final. At 3pm Quay St is chocka, as we weave our way…

Jackie Clark

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:19:10 +1300

Ian couldn't bear it – he kept asking why they all tried to run down the middle at the beginning when the French had left their sides wide open. I know nothing of rugby, I don't know the rules, nor the whys nor wherefores. Even if it wasn't the trouncing…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:09:00 +1300

that there would be some heartbreaking moment that would take it away.
I think that was a collective consciousness for a number of us, of which I believe got the AB's wanting to prove us wrong. Didn't we do well then.;)The fire works exploding over the Harbour, The sky tower…

Sacha

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:01:28 +1300

By the 70 minute mark I think I'd accepted the idea that we were going to lose

Whoever coached them to kick away possession deserves a slap. Heart pill hawkers probably happy though. :)

Russell Brown

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:52:44 +1300

Grant McDougall

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:45:01 +1300

The relief, the sheer relief.

Raymond A Francis

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:54:57 +1300

To quote The Duke of Wellington it"wasa dammed close thing"
Apparently he really said
"Its been a damned nice thing — the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life
Which does sum the night up rather well
I was introduced to TAB betting last evening when I turned…

Sacha

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:23:17 +1300

And they do that hakka wardance thing.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:14:25 +1300

Brillo...
they really play without pads?
They must use pads!
'Cos I heard they have wings...

Sacha

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:10:38 +1300

with American commentators

they really play without pads?

Lucy Stewart

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:08:01 +1300

Wow. That was some match. I was bitterly sad to not have the full Kiwi experience of being at home for it, but we made a pretty good morning of it over here. And now I get to re-watch it on American TV with American commentators. This should be, uh,…

Jackie Clark

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:30:38 +1300

Oh Tom, I am so pleased that you got to experience that. Just wonderful.

Tom Semmens

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:48:24 +1300

We won! We won! I was there, and I can tell you all that the last ten minutes were amazing, the assembled will of our people was almost a physical presence. It was certainly worth one point, and that is all they All Blacks needed.

I will never, ever, forget…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:41:05 +1300

Anyway, while not watching anything on TV this evening, may everyone enjoy whatever it is they do-

I just watched a bunch of peoples leaping of furniture, dancing, celebrating this game as if it was all that mattered. Fascinating that everything else can be blocked out. A few booed at…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:26:26 +1300

Oh yes I did. But now ,shit! That just got all jiggy on it. Glad I trimmed my nails before I could bite them all off. :)

Kumara Republic

Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:09:44 +1300

And fears of a Marx Jones 2.0 over Eden Park have proved unfounded, despite it somehow being worthy of a Granny editorial. Talk about mountains from molehills.

Cecelia

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:43:07 +1300

I'm not a rugby fan but somehow it mattered. It mattered so much. Heart-stopping. Stomach churning. Almost unbearable.

It's not often I feel part of the collective psyche like that.

Craig Ranapia

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:55:36 +1300

Edith says it better than I ever could. And the French deserve our thanks for making the bloody All Blacks WORK like drag queens in a walk off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzy2wZSg5ZM&ob=av2n

Jackie Clark

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:53:15 +1300

Sorry about that Islander – there's almost been too many bad things happen this year to remember all of them, I guess.

Islander

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:58:41 +1300

Why does everybody seem to forget a certain aircrash at Fox Glacier? (as part of the bad news?) It had a huge impact on a small community, and was one of the worst domestic aircrashes to date.

Anyway, while not watching anything on TV this evening, may everyone enjoy whatever…

Jackie Clark

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:08:27 +1300

I will say just this: I don't normally watch rugby, I've said it before. But this game feels really significant, it does. And it's because it's been such a year of shit. Pike River, the earthquakes, the Rena........don't we all deserve some good news? Fare well, my friends, and see…

Jackie Clark

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:06:17 +1300

Have a great game, Ben. I know you've been really looking forward to it.

Ian Dalziel

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:05:46 +1300

Tres cheek...
the Man Who Stabbed His Own Arse
isn't that a Billy Connelly movie?
No! Who he?
But this is a Billy Connolly movie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bmNUiRuOU
:- )

BenWilson

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:32:20 +1300

Last post until my hangover wears off: Go ABs! I hope France plays well, and I hope they get soundly thrashed nonetheless.

'Night all.

Sacha

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:32:02 +1300

you missed this: #nekminnit

Sofie Bribiesca

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:16:16 +1300

And then this happens

Sofie Bribiesca

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:03:45 +1300

There is the book The Man Who Thought His Wife Was A Hat.

Sofie Bribiesca

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:02:05 +1300

Hope we all have fun peeps. Our friend has talked the publican into closing tomorrow for his staff to actually enjoy their hard earned break on Labour day. (Knowing all there would be hung over).6 weeks of day in day out full on great service for many foreign visitors, and…

Sacha

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:51:42 +1300

the Man Who Stabbed His Own Arse

isn't that a Billy Connelly movie?

bmk

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:49:53 +1300

You might want to have all cell phones turned off too. Or you might awake to celebratory texts.

Sofie Bribiesca

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:44:27 +1300

the Man Who Stabbed His Own Arse

Lol ! That's got to be a pretty novel way to show his support, but big ups to you both then.:)

Jackie Clark

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:39:24 +1300

I was going out but I decided that the Man Who Stabbed His Own Arse and I should watch the game together. Heaven help us.

Cecelia

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:33:36 +1300

No hiding in the bedroom calling for updates

I thought I was the only one!

Lucy Stewart

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:34:02 +1300

We've had to shift our game-watching back five hours, because everyone's just that wee bit too shagged from unexpected house-moving (not us, but another member of the rugby-watching gang, and we're all pitching in) to make the 4am kickoff. We've got a selection of fine breakfast foods and alcohol (champagne…

Mikaere Curtis

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:08:25 +1300

Yeah, writing off the French, no matter how tempting, is extremely unwise. I am certain they will bring their best game tonight, the real question is for how long. My pick is that they are reasonably fragile and that the ABs have the opportunity to rattle them early.

I’ve got…

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Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:08:25 +1300

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