Posts by Steve Barnes
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Work places are supposed to be work free
If only ;-)
Of course. There is no argument about ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke)
Passive smoking doesn't cause cancer - official
PASSIVE SMOKING DOES CAUSE LUNG CANCER,RESULTS
After adjusting for the effects of age, education, history of heart disease, and body mass index, women had a statistically significant increased risk of a coronary event associated with exposure to ETS (relative risk (RR) = 1.99; 95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.40-2.81). There was little statistical evidence of increased risk found in men (RR = 1.02, 95% CI = 0.81-1.28).
CONCLUSION
Our study found evidence for the adverse effects of exposure to ETS on risk of coronary heart disease among women, especially at home. For men the issue is unclear according to the data from our study. Additional studies with detailed information on possible confounders and adequate statistical power are needed. Most importantly, they should use methods for measuring exposure to ETS that are sufficiently accurate to permit the investigation of dose-response relationships.From Coronary events and exposure to environmental tobacco smoke, a case-control study from Australia and New Zealand
Patrick McElduff, Annette J Dobsona, Rod Jackson, Robert Beaglehole, Richard F Heller, Roy Lay-YeeSo a 1.99% increase in a 1.40- 2.81 probability with a 5% degree of error.
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But trusting the 'average person' can't be the test for whether a law is applied.
If that was the case we wouldn't have laws for murder and rape etc.Well I would say that "the average person" is not a rapist or a murderer in as much as that on average they are not. My point was that we, surely, only to be "protected" from a minority of the people and those should be the most dangerous rather than the most unpopular. There by hangs the rub, crime and punishment are , by nature, political.
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I would just like to quote something that I just heard from a frequent poster on this very forum
"you allways think the glass is half full but I think the glass is half empty. Well I am normally right!"
Good eh?
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Self control or state control?
Is that the question?
Self control in this context would also include family/peer pressure (for or against based on either knowledge or ignorance or in most cases adherence or non-adherence of Law)
It comes down to trusting the average person, not the lowest common denominator, If Joe Blow wants to sit around all day trying to determine the difference to God and his doG he should be free to do so as would Joe Go be free to chase his dream of being a rich prick.
As it is, the only thing stopping me going out and smoking the Oak tree next door is Recource Consent.:?~ -
soccerball
WHAT!!!
Calling the Beautiful Game that is FOOTBALL "soccer" was bad enough but Soccerball?
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Ok I found this
"Reports of an old man being dragged from the fire are wrong. He actually cast himself into the holocaust of his home. I remember vividly the wailing of the wahine and the confused shouts of the young. It could be clearly heard on the harbour." (John Broadbent, Auckland yachtsman, reporting on the burning of Orakei village and eviction of its inhabitants prior to the Queen’s visit in 1952. Orakei Report 1987)
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and this.The issue became one of law and order.
Some thought the Crown burnt the meeting house. Others suspected it was
one of their own. The Crown proposed re-erection of the meeting house at
Helensville but the people knew where the ancestral house belonged and
there is a custom of burning such houses when threatened with desecration
by a foe. It was not until 1977 that Prince Reweti announced his long deceased
great grand-uncle did it so that the ashes would stay where the building was
meant to be (New Zealand Herald 28.6.77).Those left had to be burnt out and physically carried from their homes. It
seemed necessary that that should not be delayed. Her Majesty Queen
Elizabeth II was to visit Auckland in the coming summer 1952-1953. The
procession route, it was first thought, would follow Tamaki Drive past the
'unsightly Orakei shacks' and since this was to be the first time a reigning
Monarch would see Auckland, Auckland wished to be seen well. Ironically,
the visit was almost 100 years to the day after Te Kawau had farewelled
Governor Grey from Auckland, sayingFriend, when you arrive on the other side tell the Queen about the good
arrangements you have made in regard to the formation of a township on our land
and let this land (Orakei) be reserved for our own use forever...From Here
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is kupe street the same one that was burned to the ground before the 5[summin'] royal visit?
1953 Royal visit. Hmm I've heard of somthing like that but can't find any reference to Orakei. I did find this.
"The Queen had been in the country less than 40 hours when a terrible disaster occurred at Tangiwai in the central North Island."
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Did anybody else think it strange that a resident of Kupe Street was used as an example of a state house tennant?
The houses subsequently vested in the Ngati Whatua of Orakei Maori Trust Board by the 1978 Act
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not many people there but if no one tells the nz public and they weren't there, then maybe they'll notice their own music cos they think someone else likes it. is not telling the same as lying?
It's called being economical with the truth.
But what the hey. Robbery has a point, is the overseas experience of our musicians is lived out vicariously by their fans? does overseas "success" sell records at home?
I think the answer to those questions is a resounding yes.