Posts by jon_knox
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his big hobby horse is re mixing
Personally I don't quite see the same amount of value in remixing music as actually creating music, but perhaps I'm being a music snob. Perhaps I've got tunnel vision regarding remixing music, as that was the example used in the lecture and Kim Hill interview. Where is the "learning" that it is suggested is the justification for the quotation of words? Yeah I get that it can be fun to remix, but that remix can be used to indirectly generate income. Is the remixing an entirely modern phenomenon that is a bit of a flash-in-the-pan, or has it been occurring in varying forms for centuries?
As Lessig rightly points out elsewhere "the vast majority is crap", but one person's junk is another person's treasure. Raising the question for me regarding should there be a minimum standard which must be attained before protection should be invoked/provided?....Now that is a can of worms that I don't want to go near, but why not turn the responsibility for determining which works to protect and which to allow the right to protection to be avoided, or for the right to protection to lapse (and perhaps this needs to also allow for the situation where a work created for non-commercial reasons acquires (sudden) commercial value)...again the "user-pays" idea begins to loom large in my mind.
The point that Rob raises, regarding the mis-appropriation of a work (eg McGlashan, McCain), is this really any different from the mis-use of a quote elsewhere?
For me Lessig's idea regarding "quotation for the modern age" is where the wheels fall off a bit. Quoting 20 words is about as hard as um...borrowing...um- er I mean copying...er-um I mean stealing...er-um I mean "quoting" an entire film, album or track. And where is the referencing or citing occurring in a remix/copy/quotation for the modern age? I'd think it would be fairly unacceptable to "quote" an entire article or book, but this seems to be increasingly viewed as acceptable for music & films.
Most of this brings me back to Simon's comments regarding the demarcation of fair use.
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The issue at the moment is the time limitation on it and under current thinking that hasn't really been explained, and extensions to copyright imply that that is being acknowledged and adjusted for.
I thought we'd discussed this qute a bit back here. Speaking only for myself, rather than making assumptions regarding anyone else's "current thinking", I thought it had been explained satisfactorily, thus there seemed to be no further comments/questions at that time.
Rob, are you seeking to consider where the line should be drawn regarding the duration of protection?
I'm beginning to think that if someone want's protection forever, or for a period, that we should implement a "user-pays" scenario, with no price breaks that distort behaviour (eg "protection forever" for the price of 20 years).
If a creative wants to share and protect their rights, then pay for it up-front, or pay year-to-year if you want an approach that allows creatives to understand which works have value (commerical or otherwise) that they want to protect.
If a creative doesn't want to pay to protect their rights, then don't share the work, keep the work protected under the natural protection of the lock & a key.
Seems to me, a bit simplier than attempting to have any other party than the rights holder determine the duration of those rights.
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http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/the_darwin_lectures
National Radio has produced a series of programs called "the Darwin Lectures" to celebrate the upcoming 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth.
NZ's somewhat limited involvement is mentioned in Lecture 2, being mainly that Charles Darwin did not have a high opinion of NZ based on the few days that he visited and that NZ's 2nd Governor (Robert Fitzroy) had a somewhat more significant role in the development of Darwin's most significant theory.
Though Fitzroy was eventually dismissed from the role of Governor, apparently for his enlightened interpretation of the Treaty of Waitangi, his shame at having involvement in the development of Darwin's theory motivated him to make a splendid contribution to science himself.
The stories of Darwin and Fitzroy individually are exceptional and when considered in combination are all the more remarkable.
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The BBC has recently screened a 2 part program regarding the diagnosis of mental illness.
Somewhat blurring the line between reality television and documentary, an experiment is conducted in which 3 leading mental health experts are asked to identify mental illness in group of 10 volunteers, half of whom have previously been diagnosed with a form of mental illness.
The program perhaps inspired by David Rosenhan's fascinating experiment in 1972 and by Lauren Slater's controversial re-examination in 2004 of the impact Rosenhann's experiment (also fascinating).
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Season 4 of Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe has just started.
It is availablbe on BBC's iPlayer.
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I think someone at the Guardian several months ago was leading a campaign to rebrand the Credit Crunch in a way that identified fault. Accordingly "Banker's Crisis" was adopted. (alas now can't find a link)
Just heard John Key's Cabinet selection interveiw on National Radio....Suprisingly "It's a game of two halves" & "Rugby was the winner on the day" were not used.
Later in the interview the statement "...everyone's trying to go through the keyhole" is used. um perhaps paints a picture that is a little too vivid.
Cut & paste link to media player's "Open URL" to listen.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/**_**_data/assets/audio_item/0010/1785961/ckpt-20081117-1707-New_Cabinet_Line_Up-m048.asx -
Here's a link to the Kim Hill interview with Lessig that Nat mentioned.
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of dexter?
yeah
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Watched the vid of Lessig today. Very slick. Liked the hybrid theory, but not totally convinced about "quoting for the modern age"....I don't see many people quoting an entire book (particularly in 20 words), but I can see people trying to do that with music.
What is to occur when a non-commercial work containing "quotation", suddenly becomes commercially valuable?
Should there be any allowance for direct vs indirect monetization?
@robbery
A dominant older brother?
Just watched the final epsiode of season 1....lol!
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datacaps were mentioned a little on Nat'l radio last week, as part of piece on the Southern Cross link/cable. (sorry about the ugly link...cut & paste URL into media players 'Open URL')