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Emma-- if it's just about getting customers to a business, then of course, you're absolutely right. But might it be possible that some businesses require some parking space close at hand for delivery vehicles?
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Of course people do judge others. But if there's any consistent thread in Christian teachings, it is that any judgements people make should be made compassionately, as persons, with the full awareness of their own limitations as individuals. Most of the time, you seem to be judging instead as some abstract embodiment of perfect law. I merely seek reassurance that there is a person in there somewhere.
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Grant, you still haven't answered that all-important question.
Your comments about ectopic pregnancies seem to suggest that you may not yet be adequately prepared to judge the decisions of others in that situation. (I know I'm not: I don't have enough relevant enough experience to fully place myself in that situation. The knowledge and experience that I do have suggests to me that there is nothing necessarily morally wrong in early-stage abortion, but I might still feel differently if it was actually happening to me.) Until you reach that stage of enlightenment, you have insufficient grounds for a conclusion that any decision is not in fact the right one for that individual concerned. -
That "judge not lest ye be judged" quote from the book of Matthew doesn't mean "nobody can ever judge other people". It does stress, however, that your first duty, before you can judge other people, is to judge yourself, to check your motives, and to examine what you yourself would do or feel if placed in exactly the same situation. Hence my question "Who are you?". It's a serious question.
On a related note: G. K. Chesterton's allegorical novel "The Man Who Was Thursday" ought to be required reading for anybody who thinks they have access to the One Truth. You can download an electronic version from the Gutenberg Project archives.
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that should be "...deny nothing, and assert nothing, other than that..."
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you deny babies at conception personhood
Read more carefully. I deny nothing, other than that those terms are loaded, and that there are other possible ways of seeing the issue. As far as I see it, I do not have any right to any final opinion on that question. I don't get to judge. Who are you to judge?
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Grant, dude, if you're living where you are and you don't know mu, then you need to get out more and talk to those around you.
Oooh. Suddenly I have a flash of insight as to why this discussion exists. Or maybe I'm just projecting :-/ -
Corollary: the fact that the rest of us are necessarily somewhat distanced from the issue makes it that much more likely we're talking bollocks? I entirely agree. I'm quite grateful for Danielle's reality check upthread pointing out that instead of getting to the bigger picture, I'd got stuck in the frame.
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Grant: mu.
I would accept that we do not currently have any single empirical test with a result that would be agreed upon by all observers in all cases. But that doesn't mean that an empirical definition is impossible in principle for all purposes, or that we should ignore empirical evidence in cases where the result is clear. As I've already said, I do not want to give anyone else the power to decide whether I am a person based solely on their own judgement. (How would you feel about that?) -
(Looks unbelievingly at the first line of the verse.) I really should just give up here.