Public Address | OurTube | If you've ever been involved in a discussion about Auckland transport https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Andrew D https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=9048#post9048 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=9048#post9048 And now episode three has appeared...
The economic cost of Auckland's car dependence, flaws in Government analyses of transport projects, and manipulation of decision makers by roading lobbyists.

Does anyone think recent announcements regarding changes to Public Transport Procurement Legislation and hints of rail electrification suggest significant improvements are in…

]]> Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:47:40 +1300 Brendan Cameron https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=8249#post8249 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=8249#post8249 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:24:39 +1300 Brendan Cameron https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=8247#post8247 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=8247#post8247 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:19:56 +1300 Andrew D https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7646#post7646 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7646#post7646 Mees & Dodson have written an academic paper which recounts the history of Auckland's public transport "system", and have a go at explaining exactly why it's as rubbish as it is.

They pin the blame on our various elected and non-elected governing bureaucracies, and suggest that the Auckland publics' apparent desire…

]]> Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:12:31 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7333#post7333 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7333#post7333 i think we might have the core of a public transport movement right here.

who else should we be talking to?

(and, i used to live just down the road from that ikea. i used to sit in my window and look out at that little park next door on…

]]> Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:38:37 +1300 Robyn Gallagher https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7331#post7331 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7331#post7331 I've been reliant on public transport since I crashed my car (awesome) and then sold it in 2004.

I'm lucky that I live on a major bus route so getting to work is easy, but I've also ended up doing a lot of walking around because sometimes buses are late…

]]> Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:22:35 +1300 Juha Saarinen https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7300#post7300 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7300#post7300 Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:14:45 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7269#post7269 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7269#post7269 yeah, when i worked in central melbourne i never even considered taking my car, and i lived about the distance of grey lynn to queen st.

as you say, all the extra costs...

actually, even when i lived the distance of titirangi to queen street (in melbourne), i also took…

]]> Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:13:30 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7251#post7251 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7251#post7251 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:40:25 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7240#post7240 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7240#post7240 it's a catch-22, crap PT means less demand and more cost. so you have to outlay to increase demand, which eventually decreases costs.

OTOH the Link bus service was great initially because it offered a service that other providers did not.

maybe light rail in auckland could do the same.

]]> Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:10:40 +1300 81stcolumn https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7228#post7228 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7228#post7228 The other crap things are the cost. For the casual user it is about the cost of running a car to get the bus. It's about 8 bucks gas into the city and back from my house but costs me over 10 dollars to get a return bus trip. But… ]]> Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:45:17 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7218#post7218 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7218#post7218 you didn't have an altercation with a certain mr. blumsky on any occasion did you?

inquiring minds want to know.

]]> Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:31:45 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7209#post7209 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7209#post7209 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:56:45 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7208#post7208 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7208#post7208 my recent trip reminded me how great a decent PT system is.

we grabbed a weekly ticket for $25 that let us travel anywhere, on any system (train/tram/bus) within maybe 15km of the CBD.

to pooped to walk somewhere close? no parking in town? jump an air conditioned tram.

and…

]]> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:39:01 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7207#post7207 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7207#post7207 Wow. I'm so glad this was posted. It's tooth-grindingly frustrating though.

Automobile dependence is a major factor in my imminent move to Wellington, where things may be crap on on the public transport front, but not AS crap.

]]> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:53:36 +1300 David Haywood https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7156#post7156 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=7156#post7156 Yamis wrote:

Lets face it though, Auckland must have the least number of people spread over the largest 'urban' area in the world.

That's exactly the myth that Part 2 of the documentary confronts.

Apparently, it's not true at all.

See:
Auckland, City of Cars: Episode 2

]]> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:35:53 +1300 Yamis https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4724#post4724 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4724#post4724 Lets face it though, Auckland must have the least number of people spread over the largest 'urban' area in the world.

I can get a bus into the city from a few hundred metres from my house about every 30 mins in peak hour and every 60 minutes outside that.…

]]> Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:13:05 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4654#post4654 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4654#post4654 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:46:06 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4550#post4550 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4550#post4550 I drive past an empty railway line every day, twice a day, 100 yards from my front door, to 50 yards from my office door. I repeat, no trains and they took the train station away too.

John Key, local MP, are you listening?

]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:49:06 +1300 Scott Fannen https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4436#post4436 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4436#post4436 Well, it must almost be time for another bunch of Auckland politicians to go on a jaunt around the world to look at public transport options – then come back and do nothing.

From the perspective of someone who hails from Howick (supposed to be the busiest highway in the…

]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:32:21 +1300 Sebastian https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4427#post4427 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4427#post4427 Excellent piece! But is it on the TV, in the cinema?

It´s a pitty though that none European cities were put into relation. Because then Auckland would be invisible – on that scale, shown in the clip.

It is interesting to hear that Danish prof who says he feels transported…

]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:08:13 +1300 Tomorrowpeople https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4378#post4378 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4378#post4378 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:31:45 +1300 Damon Maria https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4317#post4317 https://publicaddress.net/system/ourtube/if-youve-ever-been-involved-in-a-discussion/?p=4317#post4317 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCKDBHT3i74

Watch this.

And then part two. More parts on the way supposedly...

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