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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Note to self &ndash; Ignore guys until <em>well</em> into the evening
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:36:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>A dangerous bunch of EJNTs if you ask me.<br />;=-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:12:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Note to self &ndash; stand well back during mime. 1000 words per minute can't hurt you but the mime equivalent could take out an eye.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:50:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Note to self &ndash; practice mime
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:17:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Note to self... "must remember voice recorder"<br />Tee Hee.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:12:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Sounds good to me.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:06:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>tell you to slow down</p></blockquote><p>Please do &ndash; especially if it's a party. Practice on Friday?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:21:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Perhaps other people have the courage to tell you to slow down? Me, I just assumed it was my fault.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:06:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Sounds great, and serious about following up further in a more low key way. Wonder why I don't recall, given that forgetting is usually my challenge?  Pain levels must have been higher than I thought &ndash; 'twere a right stormy night.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:55:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>It seemed like a good plan, especially for the disabled.</p><p>The bit that really put my heart into overdrive was when you inquired into the nature of my work, appeared to grasp it totally (I don't usually even try to go beyond the basic idea, even with people in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:38:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You laid out your master plan for the next 30 years</p></blockquote><p>Heck, I wish someone had recorded that &ndash; if only to stop me doing it again :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:49:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>Here's another lesson learned from 10+ years of customer service....</p><p>The level of service given and the happiness/satisfaction of the customer are....  not 100%, but significantly unrelated.</p><p>If you give truely bad service, you will have a grumpy customer, and that is well deserved.</p><p>But if you give fantastic, average,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:46:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>What day is it today?  Tuesday.  Right so I'm ISFP.  I wavered on the ex/in descriptors so much that I suspect if you get me on a Friday, it would be ESFJ (I'm notoriously Judgemental on a Friday).</p><p>The SF is pretty fixed though.  Whoops, did somebody say <em>Science Fiction?</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:31:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alien  Lizard (anag)</title>
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						<blockquote><p>my P type was conflicting with your J</p></blockquote><p><strong>conflict resolution...</strong><br />it's better with a J than with a P pipe<br /><em>to steal a lick from the Pure Prairie League...</em></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84rs0nIsigY&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84rs0nIsigY&amp;feature=related</a></p><p>yeehah!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:35:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						You laid out your master plan for the next 30 years. I struggled to keep up. Myer Briggs would probably suggest my P type was conflicting with your J, that planning the future in such detail caused me stress. But I think it was simpler than that...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:20:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I still don't remember what we discussed that night
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:33:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						y'know, I'm not surprised by that one, Sacha. I worked with a few ENTJs and they were all capable of giving me tachycardia ;-)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:14:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						ENTJ? shudder
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:26:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Trying to remember what I was last time..</p></blockquote><p>Do the test again...you might have changed :). I wonder if I might answer the questions a little differently now that there's not even a chance of having some management wanker beating me over the head with it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:21:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Click on any of the 16 MBTI types in the table <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbti#Type_dynamics_and_development" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on the right</a> to go to its in-depth topic. Trying to remember what I was last time..
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:52:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>INTJ here.  As is my partner.  It can be very silent around here at times.</p><p>I'm quite fond of <a href="http://www.kheper.net/topics/typology/four_humours.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the medieval humours</a>.  I'm definitely melancholic through to phlegmatic.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:38:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're right &ndash; it's what you put in, but in such a limited question form there wasnt a lot to input...</p></blockquote><p>Yup. I seem to remember something on the order of 200 in the one I did, with a scale of one to six. Even then, for some of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:46:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><em> Nazis tried to infiltrate boy scouts</em></p><p>To me the interest in those documents was quite how banal the whole thing was. SIS were writing terribly polite letters asking Chief Constables to look out and report on Nazi cyclists. The Chief Constables wrote back in equally polite form explaining that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:41:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>I'm pretty sure I did BenWilson! There were IIRC 60 plus questions and only 2 choices as a possible answer. The thing wouldnt work if you skipped answering either.</p><p>It's a while since I did it, but I was either an ISTP or an ITSP: the given 'type' profile didnt…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:01:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Islander you must have done a different test to me. The one I did asked you to scale your response along an axis, with the only oddity that the responses had to be one side or the other, there was no exact middle. Each dimension (there are 4) also had…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:52:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Have taken the Briggs-Myers profiling when I first joined AVEN (havent posted there for a couple of years, because I had given & received all that was useful and/or supportive.) It wasnt exactly...accurate. I am very introverted, more than a bit obsessive over some things (I emphasize *things*), dont socialise much…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:09:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Webweaver, yes, their idea of introvert/extrovert is perhaps not exactly how people think of these names. My wife is 'E' type, but never speaks in public &ndash; I'm 'I' type but have no qualms about it. That comes back to practice.</p><p>I remember a deeply introverted (in both the MB,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:31:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>Bit of a cliché ('a bit?'), but true to form.  Either that, or working the BBQ.  Friends think I love cooking on BBQs, as it doesn't matter whose party it is, I'll casually take over.  Or is that just because I'm a control freak?<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62eTq8ErUOQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62eTq8ErUOQ</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:10:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>webweaver</title>
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						<p>@BenWilson &ndash; yup I've done Myers-Briggs &ndash; I do it every few years when it occurs to me to do it &ndash; and I've gotten pretty much the same reading each time.</p><p>I'm a borderline ISFJ/INFJ. I've got strong I (Introvert) and J (Judging) characteristics, somewhat strong F (Feeling) characteristics,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:21:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>On a lighter note and still thinking about the ACT Party.<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=10630673&amp;pnum=2 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <strong>Nazis tried to infiltrate boy scouts</strong></a><br />Of course, being the herald they only reported the salacious parts of the file released at the National Archives in Kew, whereas <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/operation-dibdibdib-how-nazis-tried-to-infiltrate-the-boy-scouts-1917927.html " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> The Independent</a> came up with some MI5 gossip…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:56:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But Ben... that empathy is wisdom.</p></blockquote><p>I guess so. It was certainly wise &ndash; I found out afterward that my post-fight actions were what saved me from a pack beating. They all felt strangely humbled.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:37:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>I wouldn't credit myself with such wisdom as a 14 year old. It was actually a feeling of genuine empathy that made me hug him. </blockquote>But Ben... that empathy <strong>is</strong> wisdom. It's that old wisdom that gives us Humanity, that feeling of connectedness. It is disconnection that is, I believe,…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Webweaver, have you ever tried the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myer_Briggs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Myer-Briggs</a> personality test? I was put through it as a part of management training when I was in Australia. Extroversion/introversion is one of the dimensions measured, and does track a lot of your takes on the matter. I came out as an INTP. I…
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						<blockquote><p>That's what sets us apart from the average munter Ben. We have the dubious advantage of imagining consequences, including but not limited to, understanding that, even if we win, escalation and revenge can lead to a long lasting world of pain.</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't credit myself with such wisdom as a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Does this make you (in precis) Chairman MAO?</p></blockquote><p>Don't even ask what it makes him if he cracks up afterwards</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:21:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're not a real salesperson if you're a wage-slave. It's the commissions that inject the tincture of sulphur.</p></blockquote><p>I once worked as a door-to-door salesperson on 0% wage and 100% commission. I needed the money in order to do trivial things like feed myself and have somewhere to sleep at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:17:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I have a glass desk and have an unnatural fear of <strong>slipping off my chair</strong> and smashing my teeth on the edge of said desk.<br />I believe this may have something to do with elevated levels of <strong>Mono Amine Oxidase</strong>, something that adventurous types lack</p></blockquote><p>Does this make you (in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:09:08 +1300</pubDate>
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						Do you find you notice it in your students?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:09:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>On being an introvert – and faking the extrovert (Part One) blog post </blockquote> Great blog, webweaver. I too said yes to all the criteria of being introverted. I'm always telling people I'm shy, and no-one ever believes me. I really hate big crowds, and I'm only ever comfortable with people…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:46:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						A salesperson in the organisation I work for won the contract for a local hobbyist pilot's club.  Unfortunately, he struggled with "l" sounds (hearing and pronouncing) and part of the sale was for us to arrange the company's directory listing, so for the next year the customer had to put…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:43:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>You're not a <em>real</em>  salesperson if you're a wage-slave. It's the commissions that inject the tincture of sulphur.</p><blockquote><p>dishing out pimp-slaps like confetti at a wedding</p></blockquote><p>I'm trying to visualize how Pixar could bring that to me in 3D.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:34:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, you don't have to be evil to be in sales. But it might help.</p></blockquote><p>Really?  Every Christmas, I rediscover my admiration for retail wage slaves who put up with fuck-tarded entitleitis that would have me dishing out pimp-slaps like confetti at a wedding.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:11:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> these days I'd be terrified that if I punched someone to the ground they might hit their head and die. </blockquote>That's what sets us apart from the average munter Ben. We have the dubious advantage of imagining consequences, including but not limited to, understanding that, even if we win, escalation…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:10:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>I serviced a customer once.</p><p>If you know what I mean.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:04:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Yes, you don't have to be evil to be in sales. But it might help.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:40:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alien  Lizard (anag)</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seeing as the book in question was all about social networking (in Oldspeak: using other people) for personal gain, I think your interpretation is optimistic.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I thought you said it was a <em>Self Help</em> book <br />not a <em>Help Yourself</em> book... ;- )<br />still that's me, optimistic and idealistically naive...…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:09:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>VIP travel seems to be more customer focused</p></blockquote><p>So I'm guessing then that VIP is  <br /><strong>Violence in Person</strong> much posher <br />sounding than Fight Centre indeed ;- )</p><p>all right that's enough Chuck P chuckles<br />(or numbchuckles for the nunchaku set)<br />I'm sure Dinah will be happy to see this <br />become…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:52:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						You know their slogan is <strong>Unbeatable</strong> aye? No, seriously, take a look.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:15:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						They sell the full <strong>reflex</strong> experience in association with their better-known partner organisation
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:15:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Years ago when I applied for a job at the <strong>Fight Centre</strong></p></blockquote><p>do their prices take a beating?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:46:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						First rule of Fight Centre..
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:46:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when I applied for a job at the <strong>Fight Centre</strong> I was somewhat saddened to realise that they thought the job was about sales</p></blockquote><p>Aheheheheheheheheh.</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						Years ago when I applied for a job at the Fight Centre I was somewhat saddened to realise that they thought the job was about sales while I thought it was about customer service. Didn't get that job and stopped going to the FC for my travel as the reason…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:27:00 +1300</pubDate>
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						My one school bully incident was in front of all his mates. It started with him slapping me and slamming me into a wall by the throat, and ended with me being dragged off him by a good mate, followed up by me hugging him and telling him I was…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:10:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill" &ndash; Sun Tzu</p><p>Anyway, I don't want to completely redirect Emma's thread. Although cultivating a state of zen calm in the face of the technically inept…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:52:46 +1300</pubDate>
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						that does sound like sales..
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:33:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't that just another way of saying &ndash; Quality Control is a team effort &ndash; be it product or societal, we all have to play our part in the best outcome for all involved</p></blockquote><p>Seeing as the book in question was all about social networking (in Oldpeak: using other people)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:58:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Quality Control is a team effort</p></blockquote><p>I get customer service for that, but sales?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:54:04 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>rule 2 applies: run away</p></blockquote><p>More useful if they don't know who you are and you do not run into them regularly (eg: neighbourhood, school). </p><p>Not a matter of technique, but I always found a higher level of commitment in front of peers could shame the buggers into laying off…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"In one way or another, we are all involved in sales or customer service."</p></blockquote><p>Isn't that just another way of saying &ndash; Quality Control is a team effort &ndash; be it product or societal, we all have to play our part in the best outcome for all involved &ndash; or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:30:34 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>A diffusion or quick getaway is always best. Rule 1. de-fuse the situation. If you can't, rule 2 applies: run away. If you can't do either then rule 3 applies: kick them in the pills and then apply rule 2.</p></blockquote><p>See here, from 2:20-3:25<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sORIRt8t1X0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sORIRt8t1X0</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:02:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Well, I'm new to the whole martial arts thing, having been put off for years and years by the whole 'bow to the mat, and once you've done that, we'll go through a sequence of repetitive movements again and again without explaining why' thing.</p><p>Oddly enough, having now got into…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:09:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I've never even come close to this.  Except perhaps in 4th form when there was that 'wimpy guy stands up to bully, and accidentally connects with nose' moment.</p><p>Usually manage a diffusion, or a very quick getaway.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:21:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I hear this kind of thing happens to people. Being able to fight would probably be of use at such times, although these days I'd be terrified that if I punched someone to the ground they might hit their head and die.
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						Which assumes there was an argument to back off from. The one and only time I've ever been in a bar fight a tall young chap hit me in the face before saying a word. I hit him back far harder and he fell on the ground. There was no…
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						I can imagine it's quite practical against drunks, although even more practical is backing off before the argument.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:57:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Having frequented West Coast pubs for over a decade at an earlier stage of my life, where &ndash; just sometimes- an erstwhile friendly person<br />is brainsmacked and decides to include *you* in his argument, and when you back off &ndash; like a good aikidoka- he (they were *always *he* except…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:45:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Aikido.<br />Flow.<br />Use their force to floor them.</p><p>(It does also work in the scrum&amp;punch&amp;kickngouge of &ndash; say, a pub fight?)</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't know. Never been in one. Nor has any Aikidoka I've met. It's not an art that appeals to brawlers.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I sure as hell didn't write this book</p></blockquote><p>Hoping you didn't <em>read</em> it too much either :)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>sales is the <em>opposite</em> of customer service</p></blockquote><p>Sadly all too true</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:21:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But, but, sales is the opposite of customer service.</p></blockquote><p>What can I tell you? I sure as hell didn't write this book.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"In one way or another, we are all involved in sales or customer service."</p></blockquote><p>But, but, sales is the <em>opposite</em> of customer service.</p><blockquote><p>Which apparently isn't something they were getting from the others (or they wouldn't have made it to me).</p></blockquote><p>Part of my job involves talking to customers that…</p>
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						@Deborah &ndash; I love that article too &ndash; it's one of the ones I found when I was googling for source material for my <a href="http://webweaversworld.blogspot.com/2006/06/on-being-introvert-and-faking.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">On being an introvert – and faking the extrovert (Part One)</a> blog post a few years ago. That blog post (and Part Two) are still amongst…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:00:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Aikido.<br />Flow.<br />Use their force to floor them.</p><p>(It does also work in the scrum&amp;punch&amp;kickngouge of &ndash; say, a pub fight?)</p><p>I am not into whacking into people (or anything else except waves &ndash; an old technique that was taught to me when I was an angry child.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:32:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I never liked the chucking much, probably because it was too easy for me. Far rather the hitting and being hit. Half torn off callouses on the hands and feet and a chestful of good honest bruises... good for the soul.</p></blockquote><p>I'm new to grappling, most of my training is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:57:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						ARRRRGH!
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:47:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote>As someone who hates customer service as much as it hates her, yet did it for three years: because most entry-level jobs are customer service to some degree or description, and it's often not as easy as "just get a job that suits you better." If you need work, you…</blockquote>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It just wasn't the line of work for him, and I don't know why he didn't just get a job that suited him better.</p></blockquote><p>As someone who hates customer service as much as it hates her, yet did it for three years: because most entry-level jobs are customer service to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:16:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I'd be interested to hear the opinions of other people who've worked in customer service. It may be that I've had a bad run of it and I've been spending too much time on this site lately.</p></blockquote><p>Not for a really long time, and then with a fairly specialised…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:20:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kris V</title>
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						<p>Isobel wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Must we consider the possible reactions of every one of our (quite likely hundreds of) friends and followers before we Tweet or update our status? Or can we let it all hang out?</p></blockquote><p>I have an online gaming alter-ego under which the more colourful &amp; interesting parts of my…</p>
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						<p>Deborah- have I printed that off and physically posted, or just onsent it-so so many times!</p><p>Me. Little quiet (except when enraged) me.</p>
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						Regarding "followers", I've just found out that some of my very conservative uncles read my feminist blog, which I think is very mild, but my mother says it can be a bit challenging at times.  BTW, I have some uncles who are conservative and some who are not.  I've had…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:11:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Given that Ben has also expressed martial arts love in the past, I am now wondering exactly how he 'uses people as a de-stresser'....</p></blockquote><p>Funny you should ask. Not 30 minutes ago I was chucking people around, and being chucked around. I feel tired, but I'm glad I did it,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:04:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>Apropos of the public/private/anonymous internet thing. I was reading an article earlier today about deanonymising based on the perfectly reasonable idea that you can identify identities talking about the same topics in different communications media, and a strong enough similarity is evidence of being the same person.<br />It's still at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:11:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've also discovered that people are a de-stresser. Possibly on account of too much solo work. They may be tiring, but it's tiring like training. Overtrain and you get fatigued by it. Undertrain and you get fatigued by everything. We need people in appropriate doses.</p></blockquote><p>One of my de-stressers is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:39:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you sure about that? I'm a pretty easy customer to please, I just expect "you" to provide the goods/services for which I am paying, as described by "you", in a timely fashion.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, very. Very very. But I'd be interested to hear the opinions of other people who've worked…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:13:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For those curious about my (for me) prolonged absence from Public Address, this blog may go some way to explaining it – both in its content, and the shitty shitty quality of the writing.</p></blockquote><p>It does go quite a way. Stress can be affecting you in ways you aren't aware…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:44:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Heh!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:40:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p>This:</p><blockquote><p>Heh, to be clear, Craig is talking about my love for Benjamin Disraeli, not the slash-fic.</p></blockquote><p>Immediately followed by this:</p><blockquote><p>Ben's break-up with Orcon was hilariously awkward to watch.</p></blockquote><p>And presto, I am now wondering about what it was that made Benjamin Disraeli break up with Orcon.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:33:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>I dont twitter, nor do I have any social networking page. *But* I have a helluva long email list of family &amp; friends, and waua! do we chatter between ourselves!</p><p>Which means shitty service or goods get a 'silent' thumbsdown and the good stuff gets more patronage. Works for us.</p><p>O,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:28:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For a start, most of the customers complaining about us on Twitter/Facebook/blogs would be the ones we already put the most time into.</p></blockquote><p>Are you sure about that? I'm a pretty easy customer to please, I just expect "you" to provide the goods/services for which I am paying, as described…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:17:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						Ben's break-up with Orcon was hilariously awkward to watch. Orcon weren't sitting on their hands, they were clearly trying to resolve it, just failing. Sucks to be them I guess, but I'm really glad he finally shifted to some other provider and shut up about it.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:29:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't need any more reasons to be Emma's personal hag-fag but she keeps providing the damn things.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, to be clear, Craig is talking about my love for Benjamin Disraeli, not the slash-fic.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:14:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						<p>Sorry if this has been posted before.</p><p>It seems relevant: <a href="http://propr.ca/2010/thornley-fallis-new-online-communications-policy/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://propr.ca/2010/thornley-fallis-new-online-communications-policy/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:12:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The powers that be could add a link to System...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but bugging Russell to bug the lovely chaps over at Cactuslab to gratify my ego seems a tad prickish.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						BTW, Twitter has done one useful thing &mdash;  I don't <em>need</em> any more reasons to be Emma's personal hag-fag but she keeps providing the damn things.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fiar to say Andrew Mulligan isn't quite on your wavelength over on Twitter yet?</p></blockquote><p>I just sent him a link to some Black Caps slash-fic. I think we'll be there quite shortly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:30:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This has included receiving an email saying "If you believe Andrew Mulligan is engaging in abusive behaviour..." which frankly is a question I don't know how to answer.</p></blockquote><p>Fiar to say Andrew Mulligan isn't quite on your wavelength over on Twitter yet?</p><p>Just saying.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:27:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't think it's a coincidence that traffic to my PAR stuff goes up when I remember to TwitFace a link...</p></blockquote><p>The powers that be <em>could</em> add a link to System...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:21:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Facebook is for playing word games. And linking to PA columns, because I have a number of friends who only read them that way.</p></blockquote><p>Really? I thought Facebook was for checking the RSVP list to see whether any hot people are going before accepting the invitation.</p>
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						I have in front of me the latest Jaron Lanier book that seems to be largely about this very issue. There appears to be no faster means of uploading its contents than reading the bloody thing unfortunately. I'll report back.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How's your cleavage, Craig?</p></blockquote><p>If I say so myself, my man-boobage is of Parton-esque proportions.  Oh dear, that was an concise over-share I should have Twitted wasn't it...</p><blockquote><p>And linking to PA columns, because I have a number of friends who only read them that way.</p></blockquote><p>QFT &mdash; I don't…</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<p>Cut-and-paste to strip out a couple of overly contexty bits &ndash; I recently posted this at my infrequently updated and increasingly friend-locked <a href="http://hungrymama.livejournal.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">blog</a></p><blockquote><p>So how do we negotiate these spaces which are neither completely private nor completely public? Do we have to maintain 'company manners' on every blog post and…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My issue is more "you know I drink, but do you really need to see photos of me singing a karaoke duet of Extreme with a lampshade on my head and a cigarette in my hand"</p></blockquote><p>And that's before you even get to those photos with the policewoman on the…</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have TWICE failed to make it home to my designated bed after a night out with Megan. She is awesome.</p></blockquote><p>Ms Hart. Do I need to frown sternly at you?</p><p>But yes. Yes I am.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Oh, probably coincidentally, since putting this column up, I've been invited to a gallery opening and acquired five new Twitter followers. This has included receiving an email saying "If you believe Andrew Mulligan is engaging in abusive behaviour..." which frankly is a question I don't know how to answer.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:53:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hot shit &mdash; I either have to meet you in the flesh or become your on-line BFF immediately. I need all the vicarious decadent nightlife I can get.</p></blockquote><p>I have TWICE failed to make it home to my designated bed after a night out with Megan. She is awesome.</p><blockquote><p>Which…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:51:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hot shit &mdash; I either have to meet you in the flesh or become your on-line BFF immediately. I need all the vicarious decadent nightlife I can get.</p></blockquote><p>How's your cleavage, Craig? We have a club, you see...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:49:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hot shit &mdash; I either have to meet you in the flesh or become your on-line BFF immediately. I need all the vicarious decadent nightlife I can get.</p></blockquote><p>well, you can follow me on twitter. :)</p><p>Actually I have an entire (locked) Flickr album callled Drunky McDrunkerson and Posey O'Goonbag.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:49:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My issue is more "you know I drink, but do you really need to see photos of me singing a karaoke duet of Extreme with a lampshade on my head and a cigarette in my hand"</p></blockquote><p>Hot shit &mdash; I either have to meet you in the flesh or become…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:45:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>2) the rest are well-acquainted with the "what you see is what you get, and if you can't deal don't let the door hit your arse on the way out of my life" rule.</p></blockquote><p>My issue is more "you know I drink, but do you really need to see photos…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:42:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>My twitterness has left the building, apart from one cricket post earlier this week, for obvious reasons.  FB had me for a while, but now it's just photos for folk overseas, and the odd (emphasis) 80s video.</p><p>Still tossing up on the blog front.  Maybe I'll get a bib first.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:39:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but sometimes, just sometimes i think it's ok if customer service are not looking after you, unless you are a crazy loon.</p><p>which obviously nobody here is</p></blockquote><p>Memo to self: Not trying hard enough...</p><blockquote><p>I have so much family following me on Facebook now, that my rule is "would I…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:38:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I pity you people with slightly uncommon names. I can post without a pseudonym safe in the realization that I'll be at least 200 pages down in any Google search.
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have so much family following me on Facebook now, that my rule is "would I want my mum to see this?"</p></blockquote><p>Which is just one reason why I'm not on facebook. This sort of thing is a <a href="http://failbooking.com/tag/parents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">stock in trade</a> of sites like <a href="http://www.failbooking.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Failbooking</a> (see here for [[http://www.lamebook.com/its-all-relative#more-7122|some particularly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:16:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I imagine that David's biding his time. He seems like a thinker when it comes these kind of projects.</p></blockquote><p>Back when I was filling in <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2260,southerly-dr-lockwood-smith-end-of-session-speech-2009.sm?p=146000#post146000" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">briefly</a> as his secretary, I checked his wall planner, and there's definitely a plot afoot.</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Very much a mental "Oh hell, have I been talking about anything embarassing recently?" moment.</p></blockquote><p>My Twitter feed is locked, and my rule is I have to have met you in real life, or have had a long relationship with you on the internet, for you to follow me. That's…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						I imagine that David's biding his time. He seems like a thinker when it comes these kind of projects.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Very much a mental "Oh hell, have I been talking about anything embarassing recently?" moment.</p></blockquote><p>ohhhh yes... I tend to have this assumption that no member of my extended family or person I went to school with is competant using the internet, so I live my net-life in a consequence-free…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:58:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had a moment at lunch when a relative mentioned in passing that they follow me on Twitter. Very much a mental "Oh hell, have I been talking about anything embarassing recently?" moment.</p></blockquote><p>Hah, I had that with past colleagues who were all very keen to find out about my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:58:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>well i have just had a big twitter vent. but did not name and shame as i am too nice. </p><p>but sometimes, just sometimes i think it's ok if customer service are not looking after you, unless you are a crazy loon.</p><p>which obviously nobody here is</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						I had a moment at lunch when a relative mentioned in passing that they follow me on Twitter.  Very much a mental "Oh hell, have I been talking about anything embarassing recently?" moment.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No Safeties ’10 meant being less paranoid (or ‘cautious’) and accepting any ‘friend’ or ‘follower’ except the most obvious spam.</p></blockquote><p>I've also had the rather nice click moment when I realised that I don't have to justify to anyone but myself using the unfriend/unfollow-block function.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i'd like to know if there is a tweet out there where somone enjoyed or found it easy flying jetstar ;)</p></blockquote><p>I definitely had the feeling that I was not so much undermining their reputation as confirming it.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						@Sue: I had no problems at all the two times I've tried. I still wouldn't use them in a time-critical situation, though.
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						i'd like to know if there is a tweet out there where somone enjoyed or found it easy flying jetstar ;)
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						I think that also pretty much sums up the local body consultation process.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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