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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>That does sound <em>familiar</em> . Starts at about 4.10 &ndash; couldn't find a clip of the exact bit:</p><p><a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=StoQUMsFvCE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=StoQUMsFvCE</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:03:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That story has to be Russian, right?</p></blockquote><p>That night, as he gnawed upon a turnip before retiring to his bed atop the stove, the villager ruminated aloud: "You know, little mother, if it weren't for that pesky dirt the donkey would have been mine."</p><p>Even if it is Russian, it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:32:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						The foo has a lot o creative geekery in it..
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:20:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>Oooh! Look at that.  Got an envelope. </p><p>Thanks Gio. I don't mind looking like a dumb cluck. Truly. I don't &ndash; honest  :- b</p><p>I've been dying to poke my nose in those cantankerous threads about copyright, but I fear I'd be wolfed down for brekkie by those people we're…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:54:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Kerry &ndash; you mean you can't enable it by going on "edit" next to your user details top left? If so, if you email me I can pass your address on to islander (I'm assuming since you're happy to make your address public would have no issues with my knowing…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:17:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Kerry &ndash; you're right. Sorry. I'm sure Russell will oblige.<br />Prepping for house painting??<br />Shrieks.<br />That is one big heavy dusty dirty ongoing sweaty job.<br />Done it several times.<br />Wont again.<br />All best for this time-</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:11:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>Islander  &ndash;</p><blockquote><p>Kerry W &ndash; am happy to talk about work process &amp; routines &ndash; why not pm me?</p></blockquote><p>Thanks, I'd love to, but neither of us has the pm "envelope" icon on our user bits. Anyway, I've sent a message to PA, asking Russell or whoever to enable it for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:05:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Meanwhile on other threads in a galaxy far far away, someone asks "but who owned the hole?"
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:59:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						That story has to be Russian, right?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:57:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Go us donkeys!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:57:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>*That* was definitely a dance of the hours relocated from minuet territory-</p><p>good to view it<br />(reminds of nightmares I have had-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:35:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Or in Minuits, even.</p><p><a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=bgK3D71jsf8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=bgK3D71jsf8</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:46:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						steven crawford, I realise that was just a tiny error, but measuring the earth in minuets paticularly appeals to me!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:29:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>So we could use a Day as our metric basis (defined as 86400 seconds), and then could talk about milliDays (86.4 seconds, approx 1 and a half minutes) as in :</p><p>I got up late this morning, at mD 326, so had to rush to get the kids to school…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:06:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						UTC and metric time are not the same thing, is what I'm saying. if you start using kiloseconds, then yes, everything has to change around it as well.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:36:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nobody is changing the system of time</p></blockquote><p>See upstream where Paul suggested kS and mS. So, if you were changing the system of time, why wouldn't you change your base so that it worked on earth as a decimal was my point.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:33:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						The French Empire has a certain ring to it..
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:32:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>blow your freakin' mind</p></blockquote><p>Reckon. So if System weren't still in beta, the LHC might still be working?  <em>(imagine that said like a Scooby Doo ending)</em></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:30:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As a rule, if Napoleon couldn't do it, it is a Bad Idea.</p></blockquote><p>Caesar managed, though. Just sayin'.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:23:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>Look, when they got in metres and everything, they tried dicking around with the calendar, and nobody went for it.</p><p>As a rule, if Napoleon couldn't do it, it is a Bad Idea. </p><p>(See also land wars in Asia.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:21:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						(of course you can't ignore minuscule changes in most modern scientific experiments)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:14:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why would you change the system of time and leave in three different factors, none of which is 10?</p></blockquote><p>Nobody is changing the system of time, and coordinated universal time (which is not metric) is never going to become part of the everyday conversation on earth,  although it's useful in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>What I mean is &ndash; days, and years, make sense. They're not decimal, but they relate to the world around us.</p><p>Hours, minutes, seconds, arbitrary numbers someone picked out of their arse. Why would it be the second that you'd keep for your number base? Why not the day or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:05:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>designed to KILL US ALL</em></p><p>Thought you said that was System's goal?</p></blockquote><p>Dude, the links between the two would blow your freakin' mind.</p><p>But I've said too much already ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:05:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sure, but then... what's a centimetre? At least one of those units is going be a tenth of nothing at all.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but it's a decimal of nothing at all. Not at 60th, 24th, or 365thand a bit-th.</p><p>Why would you change the system of time and leave in three…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:03:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I'm feeling a little technoparanoid today.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:02:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>designed to KILL US ALL</p></blockquote><p>Thought you said that was System's goal?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:00:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>leap second? I got a whole leap DAY &ndash; on which I was required to work for free! (Like many people I'm paid the same monthly salary whether there's a leap day or not)</p><p>I think that leap day (or the closest Monday) should be a public holiday</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:58:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I thought it had been designed to KILL US ALL. Was I misinformed?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:56:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a tenth of nothing at all</p></blockquote><p>Isn't that what the Large Hadron Collider is for measuring? :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:55:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A gram was. It was the weight of a cubic cm of pure water or something like that.</p></blockquote><p>Sure, but then... what's a centimetre? At least one of those units is going be a tenth of nothing at all.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:52:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why? A metre is not a decimal of anything. A gram neither.</p></blockquote><p>A gram was. It was the weight of a cubic cm of pure water or something like that.</p><p>And a litre is a decimal portion of a cubic metre or something. And a litre of water is almost…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:50:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I used mine to take a short, but well-deserved, break.</p></blockquote><p>Like that <a href="http://nominister.blogspot.com/2009/01/hypocritical-hogwash-over-john-keys.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wonderful</a> hard-working My Key.  :)</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						So... who's going to see that new Star Trek movie then?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:41:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						Didn't we just add a leap second this year?  I used mine to take a short, but well-deserved, break.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						by making the second the base unit we can keep our years (and days) synchronised to the sun by dropping in the occasional leap second (and leap day of course) &ndash; in the distant futire as I've pointed out we wont care about the sun (or we'll have different suns…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:38:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Why? A metre is not a decimal of anything. A gram neither.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:34:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						Yes, but my point is, if you're going to a decimal system, then surely the base unit should be a decimal of something, not a 1/31557600.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:23:21 +1300</pubDate>
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						Precisely.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:14:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						well seconds USED to be 1/86400 of a day and then 1/31557600 of a year &ndash; but days and years aren't that regular (which is why we just got a new leap second this NYE). Now that a second is the base units for our (MKS) measuring system, we can't…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:13:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						Not only that, but the length of a metre is defined as a function of time (the distance travelled by light in one 299,792,456th of a second, to be ridicolously precise), so if you change the duration of a second &ndash; which is arbitrary, you're right &ndash; that would also…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:10:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Ah of course. Incidentally Wikipedia tells me that a second is measured by:</p><blockquote><p>the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.[1]</p></blockquote><p>I'm glad that cleared it up :)</p><p>Surely…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:04:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Chapman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If we all operated in UTC, I'd have to get used to which hours constiture morning, afternoon, evening and night everywhere I went.</p></blockquote><p>Universal time will not be without its own quirks it's true.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:23:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Chapman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So from now on I get at up at 21:00 UTC and work until 7:00 and call 1 in the morning "midday"? All so a bunch of people can teleconference internationally without having to make complex mathemtical calculations such as "what's 18 minus 12"?</p></blockquote><p>It will be particularly useful when…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:15:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p>"Not only are our trains running on time, they're running on metric time! Remember this time people, 80 past 2 on April 47th!"</p><p>There's another reason why it's a ludicrous idea: at the moment, if I holiday in Sweden, is set my watch to the local time when I get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:10:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						second
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:00:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>this is just the first step: generations from now when we all live in space and finish off what we started by switching to decimal time &ndash; we'll just deal with kS (about 20 minutes) MS (~12 days) LS (the Indian lakh will give us our day) ....</p></blockquote><p>OK now…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:53:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						it's like when we changed to decimal currency and didn't have to do math in 1/240ths or distance in power of 2 fractions of 63360 &ndash; we changed, we got used to it &ndash; what went away was that whole part of primary school where we had to deal with…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:48:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						So from now on I get at up at 21:00 UTC and work until 7:00 and call 1 in the morning "midday"? All so a bunch of people can teleconference internationally without having to make complex mathemtical calculations such as "what's 18 minus 12"?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:21:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I think having us all switch to UTC would be a grand idea &ndash; as to which country gets to keep theirs &ndash; probably no one &ndash; even the UK which is nominally on UTC/GMT is on permanent summer time so they'd have to change too &ndash; all we'd have…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:08:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can you imagine the scrap over which country keeps to keep 'normal time' while the rest of us all have to shift?</p></blockquote><p>Queensland won't budge, I'll tell you that now.</p><blockquote><p>It was a joke, surely?</p></blockquote><p>And so was that, surely.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:41:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can you imagine the scrap over which country keeps to keep 'normal time' while the rest of us all have to shift?</p></blockquote><p>It was a joke, surely?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:36:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Granny gets down wif the yoof &ndash; in a caption for a pic of a telly, of all things:</p><p><em>It's in your living room, sucking your electricity.</em></p></blockquote><p>I saw what they did there...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:30:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have long been an advocate of abandoning time-zones and just running the world with a universal time.</p></blockquote><p>Can you imagine the scrap over which country keeps to keep 'normal time' while the rest of us all have to shift?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:22:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Kia ora Jackie- thanks! And while I dont write with possible readers in mind, some stuff does creep out into the wider world- may all be well with all you love too-
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:48:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>It may also be of moment to note that &ndash; when any of my family/friendgroup are fraught or &ndash; forfend- dead, I cease to be able to work as writer. I can sing ephemeral stuff, I can draw (but not paint) but I cant really write. Pity that people have…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:44:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Chapman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Try the Chatham Islands. They're 45 mins ahead of mainland NZ, which makes watching the news there a little weird.</p></blockquote><p>I have long been an advocate of abandoning time-zones and just running the world with a universal time.</p><p>It won't solve the problem of people in different parts of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:27:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Sofas, breakfast bars, random association. <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10551425" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Granny</a> gets down wif the yoof &ndash; in a caption for a pic of a telly, of all things:</p><blockquote><p>It's in your living room, sucking your electricity.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:18:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I get time-zones, I even get how they come about, but half-hour ones are bollocks... but half an hour, what's the point?</p></blockquote><p>Try the Chatham Islands.  They're 45 mins ahead of mainland NZ, which makes watching the news there a little weird.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:35:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Chapman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[posting while draped over the sofa btw]</p></blockquote><p>Me standing at breakfast bar, trying to get something done while keeping one eye on kids playing with water in the backyard (and one ear on the cricket commentary).</p><p>Y'know, I would consider myself lucky to get as much feedback or instructions from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:07:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						<p>Craig said</p><blockquote><p>Another peril of working at home, when the phone (and internet) goes down, you have to be your own IT department.</p></blockquote><p>Got that base covered too (thank you Linton!), and if we lose external connectivity we can always go down the road to borrow some bandwidth from a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:04:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>bloody karma...</p><p>It appears the sofa quip earned me two dogs and a five year old on the chest.  I am now the sofa.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:56:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Walking was one of my especial pleasures until arthritic hip and knees<br />made it rather unpleasant...I look like turning into a hundred stone zombie without it tho' (and thus, the post-modernists are proved right!)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:46:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Leave the house and exercise for at least an hour a day. A long walk is not only good for the body...</p><p>Not so good for my body I found, I always ended up at the local bakery.</p></blockquote><p>Oddly, I went for a nice walk today which really cheered me…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:37:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Leave the house and exercise for at least an hour a day. A long walk is not only good for the body...</p></blockquote><p>Not so good for my body I found,  I always ended up at the local bakery.</p><p>[posting while draped over the sofa btw]</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:35:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been boggled by the way that people who live in a country that contains different time-zones can be so unable to handle the idea of people living in different time-zones.</p></blockquote><p>I get time-zones, I even get how they come about, but half-hour ones are bollocks. SA is half and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:19:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I hate you all. :)</p></blockquote><p>That's fine Danielle &mdash; I hate me too. :)  Another peril of working at home, when the phone (and internet) goes down, you have to be your own IT department.  Telling yourself to get this shit sorted before you go postal isn't quite as satisfying.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:31:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Dear old postmodernism eh?</p><p>Sam F, nope, not even a notional reader...when I read work, it's to see how I can improve it (and it's frequently, read/rework/reread/work it over again etc. etc.) What fascinates me is character &amp; story building &ndash; which is why I have mss in drawers &ndash; I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:20:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>Ian Mackay, of course you are entitled to disagree with me, but be assured, I do *not* have an audience/reader in mind when I write.</blockquote>Did nobody tell you about the Death of the Author? Get with the programme: Critics know best.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:57:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Creativity, collaboration, etc ...</p><p>There's no creative form that's as much of a group effort as  screen production. It amazes me how people different skillsets (and peole with them) it takes to make a TV programme.</p><p>And we're a low-budget affair &mdash; the small army marshalled to produce, say, a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:48:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually, this is the first time I've done a satirical or humourous column for PA where I haven't either Got Letters</p></blockquote><p>Oh, would that we could read those letters. If it wasn't ethically iffy, it could be like Jezebel's <a href="http://jezebel.com/tag/crap-email-from-a-dude/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Crap Email From a Dude</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:45:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ian Mackay, of course you are entitled to disagree with me, but be assured, I do *not* have an audience/reader in mind when I write.</p></blockquote><p>Not even a notional reader, which might even just be yourself in a reading rather than writing mode? (Apologies if you've already made this clear,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:39:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Ian Mackay, of course you are entitled to disagree with me, but be assured, I do *not* have an audience/reader in mind when I write.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:32:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jesus replies from Glenfield: "If God wanted Emma Hart to swan round in her underwear all day, He would have said so in His Bible. It is people like her who are bringing our society to ruination and she is beyond..........."</p></blockquote><p>Heheh, underwear, sorry?</p><p>Actually, this is the first time…</p>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						<p>Emma Hart: Wot an interesting post and susequent commentary. <br />Some have written here that they just write the words. I disagree in that you must have an audience in mind. The audience here are entertaining and responsive in probably a rare manner. Imagine your words appearing on say the Auckland…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:21:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I'd just like to say that I'm posting this from the <a href="http://securityandthe.net/chrome/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chrome for Mac OS test shell</a>. </p><p>It's quite nippy.</p><p>(hey, it beats banging my head against the wall trying to moderate user behaviour in copyright threads ...)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:42:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>The BBC World Service emailed me in the wee small hours, with an offer I would not have refused, had I been awake.</p><p>I thought they, of all people, would know better.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						actually I think people find the dateline confusing &ndash; and the idea that countries south of the equator might have DST at different times of the year (and the timezone offsets might change 4 times a year)  more than difficult
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>the ability to pass the executive seamlessly, watching for who has the good idea</blockquote>That's fair, though not how I'd have put it (even if you're deliberately letting someone else lead, you end up making a big contribution &ndash; being actually forced to run a scene on your own is agony).…
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been boggled by the way that people who live in a country that contains different time-zones can be so unable to handle the idea of people living in different time-zones.</p></blockquote><p>It's entirely possible that they don't even really handle the concept of timezones <em>within</em> the country and get confused…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A few hours laters he replied, more or less like this:</p></blockquote><p>I've been boggled by the way that people who live in a country that contains different time-zones can be so unable to handle the idea of people living in different time-zones.</p><p>Most are fine, of course. And more can…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, see, I'm in a different time-zone. It's Wednesday night for you, but it's Thursday for me, so…</p></blockquote><p>Once, a few years ago, I checked my email and found some guy in America had emailed me asking a simple question about something I'd written about on my website. I replied…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:38:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Never worked in the performing arts then?</p></blockquote><p>Nope, never.  The idea appeals, all except for the being in front of people bit.</p><p>That's not at all the sort of group I was imagining though.  That's more of a hierarchy of fairly well defined pockets of creativity.  I'm not sure if…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:34:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Playing this in the background usually works as a repellent... ;-></p><p><a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=AUOpUqni0_g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=AUOpUqni0_g</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:50:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>until the mormons went away</p></blockquote><p>Not sure letting my bathrobe slip open would have achieved anything other than getting a visit from the constabulary. Our solution was</p><p>We used to invite them in and make them tell us about the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim_(Latter_Day_Saints)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">magic glasses</a></p><p>I don't know why but they really hate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:38:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when I was a student in ChCh my flatmate (who worked nights in a restaurant) used to let her robe slowly slip until the mormons went away</p></blockquote><p>How much slippage does it take to get rid of a Mormon? There's a joke in there somewhere...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:28:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						when I was a student in ChCh my flatmate (who worked nights in a restaurant) used to let her robe slowly slip until the mormons went away
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:25:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Okay, I'm dressed now, I can comment. </p><p>Though I tell you, working a morning in my little blue satin dressing gown is an effective way to make Jehovah's Witnesses leave.</p><blockquote><p>* must remember to speak to husband sitting only 2 m away rather than using IM.</p></blockquote><p>Heheh, guilty. The children…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:58:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I think both Guest and Reception failed their Turing Tests.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:50:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>Not quite on thread, but I was checking out of a hotel on Sunday and 'enjoyed' this conversation from the person in line in front of me...</p><blockquote><p><strong>Guest:</strong>	I would like to get some of that moisturiser that they have in the Spa?<br /><strong>Reception:</strong>	I am sorry the Spa is…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:17:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm lying here on the sofa, in the sun, with a fresh cup of coffee lovingly made by my loving husband, earning USD (which are finally worth something again!). I might go for a potter in the garden later... if I can get off the sofa... but it all seems…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:02:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, it's nothing personal. I'm from New Zealand, we all swear like that.</p></blockquote><p>While I was working in a lab in CA I used to say "bugger" when I stuffed up &ndash; again.</p><p>One day two of the students commented that they really liked the sound of the word and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:54:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						<p>Danielle said:</p><blockquote><p>I am sitting in a dingy, windowless cubicle with coffee in a travel mug after commuting for an hour. I hope you work-from-homers take this in the fond and tender spirit in which it is intended:</p><p>I hate you all. :)</p></blockquote><p>Can I rub salt in to the…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>I am sitting in a dingy, windowless cubicle with coffee in a travel mug after commuting for an hour. I hope you work-from-homers take this in the fond and tender spirit in which it is intended:</p><p>I hate you all. :)</p>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						<blockquote>3) Remember to eat. Don't know about anyone else, but I find it far to easy to get caught up in a project and end up wondering why 1) it's hard to see (because it's night, doofus) and 2) I've also got one mutha-frakker of a headache (because you're hungry…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:06:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've done it for about half of the past 20 years &ndash; so far I have 2 rules:<br />* you must get dressed by lunch time, no hanging around in your bath robe<br />* you must leave the house and interact with actual people at least every other day</p></blockquote><p>I'd…</p>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						I do wonder sometimes...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:39:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>* must do at least 30 mins work for every 5 mins reading PA</p></blockquote><p>Or the other way around, as the case may be for some.</p>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>Islander, I like your philosophy. I wonder, apart from fraught times, do you impose a discipline of writing so many words a day, regardless of what they may be?</p><p> I share the inability to create when family/friendgroup are fraught. For me, it's meant I've lost the flow &ndash; for a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:30:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe we need to do a "people who work at home" session at foo-camp (we can either commiserate and get drunk together or swap working tips).</p></blockquote><p>Oooh &ndash; count me in!</p><blockquote><p>I've done it for about half of the past 20 years &ndash; so far I have 2 rules:<br />*…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:14:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Sacha &ndash; that is the glory eh? The trance flow, the creative immersion, the deep wherein you are so yourself and your work at one &amp; the same -untime.<br />I live for that.<br />Urrmm, as well family, friends, fishing, food etc. etc. etc!!!<br />(I know you cannot sustain one without the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:53:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>ROFLnui</p></blockquote><p>Quite like that variant.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:47:22 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Damn good home-working rules too, Keri. <surveys fridge, pats visiting cat></p><blockquote><p>when I write, I am focused on my work and any interconnectivity between me &amp; others is &ndash; sooo limited.</p></blockquote><br />I miss regularly exeriencing the pleasure of the trance flow where creation comes to me and my connectedness is unconscious.  I could layout magazines all…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wouldn't have worded my response quite they way that Sacha did</p></blockquote><p>Heh &ndash; neither would I.  Imbibing complex academic theory followed by years of procedural writing seems to have eroded the previous simple strength and beauty of my writing. May take ages to come right..</p>
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						<p>Sacha -of  course 'readers &amp; critics''ve come beforehand (no writer actually creates in a blank space)BUT when I write, I am focused on my work and any interconnectivity between me &amp; others is &ndash; sooo limited. I work via words &amp; theatre-in-the-head/dreams/drawings, and potential readers &amp; critics have no place therein.</p><p>I've been self-employed/home-working…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Interesting comment Tom -while, as a writer, I am obviously part &amp; product of the wider culture/s, I dont see interconnections between my story/poem/whatever and readers &amp; critics. It's just me and the words.<br />Readers &amp; critics come after everything is finished.</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't have worded my response quite they way that Sacha…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:00:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						Sensible rules those, Paul. <checks what is wearing>
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						So that was two bottles o wine <em>before</em>  the horoscope, right?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:32:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Maybe we need to do a "people who work at home" session at foo-camp (we can either commiserate and get drunk together or swap working tips). I've done it for about half of the past 20 years &ndash; so far I have 2 rules:<br />* you must get dressed by…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Client: "Can you please apply a 25mm wrench to that fitting and turn it five times clockwise to remove it, then replace the washer with this black one I found in the garage, remembering to use plenty of thread tape when replacing the fitting."</p><p>Plumber: "Cabbage cabbage."</p></blockquote><p>ROFLnui.</p><blockquote><p>I know!…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:34 +1300</pubDate>
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						The difference is that we know plumbers are god..  :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:19:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Vaughn Davis</title>
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						<p>I presented to a conference in Chicago (an advertising thing) where people stopped breathing whenever I spoke like a plumber (to return to a theme of my own making) but were more than happy to talk openly about God.</p><p>With an NZ advertising audience, the responses would have been exactly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Vaughn Davis</title>
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						<p>When I was a freelance writer I would dream of the day a client would treat my work with the same respect as he or she would a plumber's. </p><p>Client: "Can you please apply a 25mm wrench to that fitting and turn it five times clockwise to remove it, then…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:07:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						And guess where I first used a computer &ndash; Vern's lab next to that same library and that same school field. The foo pix were rather nostalgic..
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:57:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The title made me think you were planning to be on the organising committee for the next Foo Camp.</p></blockquote><p>The organising committee's name is Jenine. You'd like her.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:53:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've always had trouble defining work, because I'm aware that pretty much all the things I've put the most effort into I've done for free. Also I work in the same chair I play in.</p></blockquote><p>I know! You're me!</p><p>Except I'm not that funny ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:50:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Readers &amp; critics come after everything is finished.</p></blockquote><p>Aah, but they also come beforehand, given that none of us create in a cultural vacuum.  We're all "born into language" &ndash; from Lacan, I think.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:45:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, it's nothing personal. I'm from New Zealand, we all swear like that.</p></blockquote><p>Once I (kind of unwittingly) used 'twat' in a graduate history seminar in Houston. I could peripherally see my fellow students freeze around the table, and then feel/watch the group all force themselves to relax. 'Oh you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:24:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						The first time I went to Hawaii and addressed an audience of mainly Pakeha academics (there some Asians too) I began by giving some of my whakapapa. I then carefully explained about whakapapa. By the 5th reiteration of 'whakapapa' I noticed the audience was &ndash; frozen.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:53:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>I was ten minutes into a talk in the USA last year and beginning to notice an unusually shocked looking audience.</p><blockquote><p>No, it's nothing personal. I'm from New Zealand, we all swear like that.</p></blockquote><p>...were nearly my exact words, everyone relaxed after that, it was fun.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:34:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Interesting comment Tom -while, as a writer, I am obviously part &amp; product of the wider culture/s, I dont see interconnections between my story/poem/whatever and readers &amp; critics. It's just me and the words.<br />Readers &amp; critics come after everything is finished.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:10:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>One wonders about those books with two writers &ndash; sometimes it seems like it's just a sort of executive-producer credit for whoever's scifi series it is. </p><p>OTOH Wikipedia has an account of the writing process for <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens#Authorship" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Good Omens</a></em>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:01:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						I always found writing to be very collaborative: not necessarily in a sense of writing in a group, but in the sense that the interconnections between writer, reader, critic and wider culture are always very important.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:49:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Performing arts are one matter -a lot of other creative activities are definitely solo jobs. Like writing & drawing/painting (the main 2 artforms I engage in..) Though I happily accept that lots of people prefer to work in groups -
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:38:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In my experience there's nothing as inspiring as other people and if you can all be inspired by each other that's phenomenal. However properly working as a group involves all the usual management problems and a few extra one like not knowing what your goal is until you've finished.</p></blockquote><p>I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:36:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Sorry, that was more terse than I intended.</p><p>In my experience there's nothing as inspiring as other people and if you can all be inspired by each other that's phenomenal. However properly working as a group involves all the usual management problems and a few extra one like not knowing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:30:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>horse</title>
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						Not just a Lulz, but genuinely laughed out loud, particularly at "He was behind the couch". Great line!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:29:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Will work for bar.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:28:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>In my mind group and creative are concepts that are mutually exclusive.</blockquote>Never worked in the performing arts then?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:04:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						That's a very strange thing Kerry.  In my mind group and creative are concepts that are mutually exclusive.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:01:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						I've just done a five day creative processes workshop with 60 people, culminating in a series of stage performances and short films. We were encouraged to work in media we weren't familiar with and in groups of four &ndash; six. Coming from a visual arts & writing background, I went for…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:27:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The title made me think you were planning to be on the organising committee for the next Foo Camp.</p></blockquote><p>I'm quite happy to sit back and be organised upon on that one. Nonetheless, my partner and I will be there thanks to the astonishing generosity of those around us. I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:16:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Evan Yates</title>
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						The title made me think you were planning to be on the organising committee for the next Foo Camp.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:02:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather W.</title>
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						<p>Hadn't expected the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/foo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> foo</a> in your "will work for foo"   title to be in the dictionary.</p><p>Computer jobs still tend to be considered as sorted by gender. Operations or support = female and programming especially gaming = male.  Therefore if Emma works in code then despite all evidence to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:22:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Yay. I guessed elf.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:09:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Also, sorry Matthew, I have now restored the last line of the column, which inexplicably vanished. Obviously some parts of my brain are still on holiday.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:01:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes thank you, I have found Jesus. He was behind the couch. Now it's my turn to hide.</p></blockquote><p>Love it. May try it on the next besuited door-knocker..</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:00:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're a what?</p></blockquote><p>When I first started doing web content work, a lot of it was in gaming &ndash; it was when the last generation of consoles came out. I was frequently mistaken for a man. When this persisted after I put a photograph on my profile, I started to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:58:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Heh &ndash; at least once a week I have to start a phone conversation with "it's 6am on Saturday morning, why are you calling me?" ....
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:47:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						You're a what?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:43:50 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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