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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Giovanni &ndash; I have spare copy of the Shadbolt/Shell Guide</p></blockquote><p>Brilliant! I won't reveal the artist who did the cover painting &ndash; that can be a surprise for you.</p><p>I found a 1976 edition in a Christchurch bookshop, but by then the paintings of each region had been replaced with…</p>
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				<title>Sayana</title>
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						<p>@ Hilary</p><p>That sounds about right &ndash; when they did the last edition of the South Island volume (IIRC) Diana and her son Sam did the driving section over one summer.</p><p>I've heard they're doing a new version in a different format.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						(pops one into a slightly chilled padded nylon tube &ndash; goodness, they get angry at that! Wheee! away it goes!)
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:44:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Yes &ndash; live eels only please, folks.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:11:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						As someone who once received an extremely dead eel from a rellie who had the best of intentions in sending it (I'd mentioned that I was missing real eels in Oz so he sent it to my home address while I was overseas for nearly 6 weeks)- possibly not?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:53:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would you mind sending me your address again?</p></blockquote><p>Aw, you... it's done. I had half a mind of posting it here, so that everybody could send me things.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:48:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Sayana, as I remember they researched in various institutions for several months (the winter?) and went travelling (summer?) The resources they used were things like the detailed card indexes of New Zealand place names compiled by earlyTurnbull Librarian Johannes Anderson, and the NZ foot traveller AH Reed, and every little…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:36:23 +1300</pubDate>
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						That personally-driving-the-length&breadth bit really is the value in those guides- Shadbolt is more literary traveller than literate traverser-
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				<title>Sayana</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Mobil guides were by Diana and Jeremy Pope. They researched them in the Turnbull Library...</p></blockquote><p>They also researched them by driving from one end of the country to the other and criss-crossing from one side to the other &ndash; one island at a time. And did it again for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:44:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I carry the Mobil Guides in the van &ndash; they're still useful.</p><p>Giovanni &ndash; I have spare copy of the Shadbolt/Shell Guide (I discovered 4 of them in mint condition in the best 2ndhand bookshop in Oamaru<br />(which is simply known as The Best Shop by family, because it deals…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:21:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jeremy Pope is an anti-corruption crusader and travel writer and is an officer of the NZ Order of Merit</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for that, the things you learn at PAS. I found stuff in the Mobil guide about the area I grew up in that I wish I'd known back in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:12:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>The Mobil guides were by Diana and Jeremy Pope. They researched them in the Turnbull Library when I worked there and every liberal home had copies. Probably many still have.<br />Jeremy Pope is an anti-corruption crusader and travel writer and is an officer of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Pope" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NZ Order of Merit</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:54:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jogging Solo</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The word "nigger" was appropriated waaay back by black people as shorthand for "uppity nigger" which was once a pejorative term for someone who had ideas above their colour, but quickly became a term proudly used to describe someone who did not take shit from whitey.</p></blockquote><p>Holy heck! That word…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:18:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That made me all nostalgic. When a small version of the Clark Family was doing the North Island/South Island roadtrip...</p></blockquote><p>You were lucky! We drove without any map/s. Dad happily got lost. He seemed to think the US Navy gave him NZ driving cred.Now it seems I am pretty much…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:08:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the subject of Christchurch being "English", I've just been reading The Shell Guide to New Zealand, a 1969 travel guide edited by Maurice Shadbolt. ('Tis my new favourite book).</p><p>Ohhh... can I borrow it when you're done?</p></blockquote><p>That made me all nostalgic. When a small version of the Clark…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>to find out what a New Zealand city of the future will look like, try Toronto</p></blockquote><p>Auckland is about to get some of the worst features of their civic structure imposed on us at haste. Perhaps we get the urban and social form as a bonus?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:28:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the subject of Christchurch being "English", I've just been reading The Shell Guide to New Zealand, a 1969 travel guide edited by Maurice Shadbolt. ('Tis my new favourite book).</p></blockquote><p>Ohhh... can I borrow it when you're done?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:22:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Yes Robyn and it should not come as a surprise to our avid readers that if you want to find an English City then, as I alluded to earlier, people should, really, go to England, they have loads of them.<br />If, on the other hand, you wish to find out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:02:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>On the subject of Christchurch being "English", I've just been reading <em>The Shell Guide to New Zealand</em>, a 1969 travel guide edited by Maurice Shadbolt. ('Tis my new favourite book).</p><p>In his essay on Christchuch he writes, "But typically English? Travel beyond the  central city area and such an affectation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:13:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote> Poor whites didn't so much carve out a place for themselves by being extra racist as wind up just as disenfranchised as the black slaves themselves, as great tracts of land &ndash; and the means to generate wealth &ndash; slaves &ndash; were tied up in the hands of a very…</blockquote>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Sacha-thinking of the meanings of 'ta'-   yep-</p><p>Just thinking -umm, this is a provocative and necessary &amp; overwhelmingly appropriate question, entirely relevant  to the circumstances, and certainly should be considered in depth.<br />No.</p>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						Has the HPT  arranged a mitigation payment sufficent to record the loss this development  will have upon our heritage, of this iconic landscape?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						You do it so much than me &ndash; thanks so much, Sam F!
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/10/30/1245ceb775c6" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Scaled-down Canterbury irrigation scheme approved</a>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						linkies?
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						<p>O, latest judgement out on water-rights!<br />Now, jugular-cut&amp;choke will begin!<br />(And, bad luck all you other water-users in Canterbury.)</p>
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						<p>Not wrong, Legbreak...most of my immediate whanau have spent time in Europe, and especially the 'UK'- we've found that the flag is OK; pounemu &amp; paua &amp; bone hei recognised; the accent not especially clear to English ears, but our general  'get off arse &amp; do it' attitude<br />known &ndash; and appreciated. But…</p>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Where did that come from, Dylan?</p></blockquote><p>It's a weblog of some US academic... Erin O'Connor &ndash; not to be confused with the catwalk model who looks like a very young Helen Clark.  I was really using it for the link to Harriet Beecher's Stowe's quote. I have also read it…</p>
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						<p>With respect to your parents Jack, the first thing you do when visiting Wales or Scotland or particularly Ireland is drop a “Gidday mate”.</p><p>But being a patriotic Welsh B&amp;B owner must be the job from hell.</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was refused a drink at a pub in Northern Transvaal once because the barman thought I was Indian.</p></blockquote><p>In the late 70s, my parents stayed at a small B&amp;B in Wales. The proprietor and his wife were surly and noncommunicative. After a day, as they were leaving the building, the…</p>
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						<p>I was refused a drink at a pub in Northern Transvaal once because the barman thought I was Indian.</p><p>I told him to “F off” in broad Kiwi, and he was extremely apologetic.</p>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>Big BBQ up North and my mate was pally with these guys so I went over to say Hi and silence.<br />He later explained what had happened and that these guys were all about Maori and only Maori.</p>
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				<title>Jogging Solo</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can remember the one occasion I was ignored for being Pakeha.</p></blockquote><p>How did you determine you were being ignored for being Pakeha? What was the context?</p>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>I can remember the one occasion I was ignored for being Pakeha. I turned to my mate and he had to explain what had just happened. <br />I had that "so that's what it is like' moment. Of course one event doesn't equate for the cumulative impact he experiences.</p><p>I can…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(That's from White trash: race and class in America by Matt Wray and Annalee Newitz.)</p></blockquote><p>Oh! I've met Annalee a couple of times, at Foo Cap in the US and here. She's cool. I knew she'd done science writing and is behind <a href="http://io9.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this place of geek worship</a>, but I had…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The title of the piece is inspired: Nick Smith Is Shit.</p></blockquote><p>A Dunedin artist did an excellent bust of Lockwood Smith in 1994 made out of horse manure. About twice life seze. Oh how we laughed!</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						Having lived in a few NZ towns I don't think there is anywhere that is more or less racist. I've heard racist comments all over NZ (although nothing to match the former NZer in Queensland who rented us a car). I'd like to think that most NZers are more tolerant…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						The title of the piece is inspired: Nick Smith Is Shit.
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>sculpted Nick Smith out of shit</p></blockquote><p>That explains a lot.<br />I can almost see how you could get the sculpture to walk and talk (although the mind boggles) but how did he get it so pasty white and red?</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(That's from White trash: race and class in America by Matt Wray and Annalee Newitz.)</p></blockquote><p>Oh snap! But with footnotes. Awesome.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It gets in the way of the facts of poverty and alienation that affect people of all colors.</p></blockquote><p>Urg, sorry &ndash; that's so wishy-washy and means nothing.</p><p>I am against the use of the N world and WT because all they do is remind people of their subjugation and/or economic…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can see how you would think that Danielle, but no, not at all.</p></blockquote><p>Well, perhaps all my history lecturers in my PhD programme in Houston were extra-specially-sensitive snowflakes and made that explanation up from scratch, but that's why, they explained, none of them ever used it.</p><p>The idea that…</p>
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						Being labeled "White Trash" and feeling it probably has a lot to do with why Kyle and his boot boys have adopted the belief system they have. They are some of the city's losers, as Emma points out, and they clearly feel it, because they've gone and adopted a belief…
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>IIRC, the US etymology of 'white trash' is pretty racist, because it implies that all black people are *already trash*, but the white folks need to be demarcated into trashy/not trashy.</p></blockquote><p>I can see how you would think that Danielle, but no, not at all. </p><p><br /><a href="http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/2007/05/trash_talk.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Etymology of "White Trash"</a></p><blockquote><p>The…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>Gentryfication is a bit of an issue.</p><p>Lyttleton for example has been preserved because it was poor &amp; out of the way. Now it is valued for its Heritage and so the port workers move the other side of the hill to Woolston and the trendy middle classes move in.</p><p>Bryndwr…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I did a proper tutting and shaking of my head then went and got dinner and then I walked home.</p></blockquote><p>Ah good on you. Like little Mr. Camopants who haunts my neighbourhood &ndash; you should see him do his balls down at the BP ATM when his benefit hasn't come…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>@ Danielle,</p><p>O/T, but this <a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:hjfexzrjldse" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">new box set</a> may be of interest:</p><blockquote><p>Dolly Parton's story is mighty but it's never properly been told on record until this 2009 Legacy box set. Spanning 99 tracks over four discs, beginning with the early-'60s demo "Gonna Hurry (As Slow as I Can)" and running…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>Here in Auckland, I'm in a gentrifying suburb, yet there have been some marginal characters over the years in the Housing NZ properties in our cul de sac, and we're only five minutes away from McGehan Close, the Mt Albert street that John Key labelled a "street of shame" before…</blockquote>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the more race-neutral term 'trailer trash'</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, although speaking as someone with a lot of 'trailer trash' connections, I have spent *so much time* in double-wide trailers. Half our friends in Texas lived in them; half my family in Louisiana lived in them. I mean, they all have central air…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So Keir saw a swastika tatt when visiting a city of 375,000-odd souls and had to have a wee lie down afterwards? The poor dear.</p></blockquote><p>No, Keir was going down the supermarket to get something to eat and saw a chap with a swastika tattoo and thought `what the fuck,…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>IIRC, the US etymology of 'white trash' is pretty racist, because it implies that all black people are *already trash*, but the white folks need to be demarcated into trashy/not trashy.</p></blockquote><p>For that purpose, the more race-neutral term 'trailer trash' is often used in its place.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>IIRC, the US etymology of 'white trash' is pretty racist, because it implies that all black people are *already trash*, but the white folks need to be demarcated into trashy/not trashy.</p><p>(Of course, most people who use the term here don't do so within that particular historical framework, so the…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Discrimination against the poor is open and acceptable in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. I wish we had a stronger, pragmatic class analysis that wasn't so cloaked in archaic "comrade" overtones.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>City Centre is still menacing and violent however</p></blockquote><p>That's how it felt when I lived there &ndash; a sense of uneasy, suppressed violence bubbling beneath (swamp, anyone?). Reinforced by the stories I heard doing volunteer counselling work with men from many suburbs and backgrounds.  And by experiencing the night crowds…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						JS, it's been an ongoing scare over the past 12 months. It started around the Bukit and Jimbaran and has slowly spread. 18 are dead so far, and the local health department has ignored all WHO advice to inoculate, and simply shot and poisoned the poor beasts, many of who,…
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>@Russell "white trash" is always used to refer to people from poor backgrounds, and that's why I have a problem with the term.</p></blockquote><p>Just look at how the Cletus family is portrayed in The Simpsons &ndash; if that kind of portrayal was directed at any ethnic group, there would be…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I got people hitting me up for money and cigarettes in broad daylight.</p></blockquote><p>It's the approachable stubble. :)</p>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>Kyle is hanging out in Paeroa at the moment.</p><p>There was a skin-head riot/party with multipul arrests a<br />month or so back, just the southside of Tower Junction Riccarton/Addington area.</p><p>They're small in number and pretty much live in hiding untill they get 10 or more together.</p>
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						<p>@Russell "white trash" is always used to refer to people from poor backgrounds, and that's why I have a problem with the term. </p><p>Otherwise, I completely concur with you. I grew up here and HATED it, couldn't wait to get out. I was very surprised to find myself liking it…</p>
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						<p>@Simon</p><p>In that case I feel slightly bad about joking about their slaughter. When was the last rabies scare? I was last in Bali in July. (Tahu Michi?) There were heaps of dogs around Ubud.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I largely grew up in Christchurch's northwestern suburbs, and went to school with both rich kids and state house kids like John Key. Newish schools with growing rolls, plenty of open space to play in, a pretty good music after punk rock happened &mdash; it wasn't bad.</p><p>But I didn't…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>stormfront.org.</p></blockquote><p>WARNING!!!!</p><p>VERY NSFW</p><p>Or mental health</p>
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						<blockquote><p>If you leave some Rammstein playing on the end of the pier the vigilant aryans might lemming themselves into the surf.</p></blockquote><p>For those of you who enjoy laughing at Neo-Nazis I highly recommend stormfront.org. </p><p>After reading about Kyle and his gang yesterday, I wanted to know what sort of culture…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I hope they eat them all before my next visit.</p></blockquote><p>They've mostly gone, culled after the latest rabies scare, in a rather brutal fashion. I saw huge piles of the poor things in our road (off the tourist track of course) and a truck with at least 50 dead dogs…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Just popping down to New Brighton with a boom box and the complete recordings of Webern.</p></blockquote><p>If you leave some Rammstein playing on the end of the pier the vigilant aryans might lemming themselves into the surf.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Sunny Day and the strong cold breeze comes from the east.<br />Sunny Day &amp; hot dry wind comes from the north west<br />Grey day bitterly cold wind cuts through you from the south.</p></blockquote><p>Damn that's a good summary.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm all done with calderising myself</p></blockquote><p>rofflenui</p>
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						<blockquote><p>nowhere else in New Zealand have I encountered the sheer casual racism and homophobia of Christchurch</p><p>My experience differs. Enormously. Have you ever been in a rural service town?</p></blockquote><p>Then you are not hanging out with my family. Which I think you should be thankful for.</p><blockquote><p>I need several carefully…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Live music I would applauded such a move, but the purpose of the canned classics is to move people on &amp; it works.</p></blockquote><p>Be back in a minute: Just popping down to New Brighton with a boom box and the complete recordings of Webern. </p><p>Anyone know where Kyle Chapman and his…</p>
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						<p>Danielle &ndash; the signs are there.<br />Small hills close to you are at the South &amp; big hills in the distance (with snow) to your north west.</p><p>Sunny Day and the strong cold breeze comes from the east.<br />Sunny Day &amp; hot dry wind comes from the north west<br />Grey day bitterly…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I don't see why Christchurch can't both have an undeservedly prominent set of violent white eejits AND be as progressive, cultured and delightful as the rest of NZ. It's not as though everywhere else is homogenously wonderful.
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						Bugger the skinhead/snob debate, here's my problem with Christchurch: my tiny brain finds it impossible to navigate a flat place. I need several carefully arranged dormant volcanoes, two harbours and a western range of hills to work out where the fuck I am.
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						Live music I would applauded such a move, but the purpose of the canned classics is to move people on & it works.
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				<title>st ephen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>oh go on, st ephen, take another swing &ndash; you know you want to</p></blockquote><p>nah, I'm all done with calderising myself...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"Much like the Classical Musak being pumped out to make sure no-one goes into the inner city businesses,"</p></blockquote><p>Musak? They were playing Prokofiev's Romeo &amp; Juliet at Casual Mall yesterday.</p>
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						<p>Appologies &ndash; the pier is very flat and useable (for anypurpose). Any other pedestrian area has cobble stones. The thought is about sustainability (replace one stone at a time), Permiable surface for water to seep through &amp; for it to look nice and exclude skate boards &amp; therefore zimmerframes too.<br />Much like…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well I did read the bit where you deduced an awful lot about someone’s life from their hairstyle.</p></blockquote><p>Please to quote, st ephen? I don't recall saying anything about hair, either in the article or on the thread, but I can't be arsed going back to check, and it could…</p>
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				<title>andrew gunn</title>
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						oh go on, st ephen, take another swing &ndash; you know you want to
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						<blockquote><p>Speaking of Christs Col, the "Auckland Grammar Nazis" reminded me of far too many yobbos I encountered at that place. An inverse proportional relationship between the size of their wallets and their intellectualism.</p></blockquote><p>That balls. There's plenty of artists and intellectuals from a CC background &ndash; including the guy who…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>ChCh PAS readers all live within a suburb or two of the Uni<br />No they don't.</p></blockquote><p>Right.  Good to have that settled.  Personally, if I had to live back in ChCh and Islander wouldn’t give me asylum on the Coast, I’d choose a nice multi-cultural ghetto near the uni.  After…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have a very long cleaver.</p><p>Okay, it's a pike.</p></blockquote><p>Careful you don't accidentally gut him as well. Actually no, I withdraw that, swing wildly sir!</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>. . .  worship a giant owl . . .</p></blockquote><p>Like, <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/tomasutpen/album6/owl1924.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bohemian Grove</a> style? Now that you mention it, there are an awful lot of stately redwoods around.</p><blockquote><p>. . . nowhere else in New Zealand have I encountered the sheer casual racism and homophobia of Christchurch.</p></blockquote><p>In the six…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm glad you are volunteering because I ain't going near those things, even with gloves.</p></blockquote><p>I have a very long cleaver.</p><p>Okay, it's a pike.</p><blockquote><p>To make it look like Christchurch, they opened on two skinheads.</p></blockquote><p>Christ, that's priceless.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Worst thing about Christchurch? The orgy of fear-and-loathing self-congratulatory smugness that the mere mention of the place provokes. So Keir saw a swastika tatt when visiting a city of 375,000-odd souls and had to have a wee lie down afterwards? The poor dear.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for saying this. Saw more skinheads…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Shaking our heads won't achieve anything. Cutting his balls off, on the other hand...</p></blockquote><p>I'm glad you are volunteering because I ain't going near those things, even with gloves.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Can't we go back to shaking our heads at Michael Laws?</p></blockquote><p>Shaking our heads won't achieve anything. Cutting his balls off, on the other hand...</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rendang that does not look and taste like an Indian curry?</p></blockquote><p>Satay Palace in Cuba St, Wellington, does a good one. The place itself looks a bit basic but their rendang is the best I've had.</p><p>Apart from my home made ones, of course...</p>
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						<blockquote>..But then again, perhaps I am a disinformation agent of the double-barreled bourgeois, terrified that you may be all too close to exposing our secret underground club in the catacombs beneath Christ's College, where powerful genetic inbreds indulge in their penchant for ritual sodomy while dressed in 19th Century British…</blockquote>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>This thread increasingly feels like PAS at its worst, not sure why.</p><p>Can't we go back to shaking our heads at <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3012655/Sterilise-underclass-to-stop-child-abuse-Michael-Laws" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Laws</a>?</p>
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						Or you could try hear, hear. Don't mean to be a pain, but it's like the twelfth time I've come across it this week. I think you're all wilfully trying to confuse me.
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						<p>@Joe</p><blockquote><p>Islander pefers the Rousseauian swamps of a dubious yesteryear to the continued existence of thousands of her fellow citizens, regardless of their potential to make this world a better place? Have fun, but don't expect to be taken seriously.</p></blockquote><p>Here Here!</p><p>@Emma</p><blockquote><p>indulge in their penchant for ritual sodomy…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>OK, we get it &ndash; ChCh PAS readers all live within a suburb or two of the Uni, and gee there are some great noodle houses around now...</p></blockquote><p>Demonstrably pretentious bullshit. On stilts.</p><blockquote><p>st ephen &amp; Keir Leslie &ndash; you've articulated it.<br />Which is why almost all of mine, and me,…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>indulge in their penchant for ritual sodomy while dressed in 19th Century British naval uniforms on a full moon?</p></blockquote><p>There is no way you're going to convince me that doesn't happen here.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Orang-orang Bali suka dan makan anjing juga. Tetapi mereka tidak menceritakan touris! Kemarin di Denpasar..</p></blockquote><p>My number 2 chief hate in regards to Bali (after drunk Australians) is all the damn dogs everywhere. Especially around Ubud. I hope they eat them all before my next visit.  </p><p>@Hilary &amp; @just thinking</p><p>It's…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Thanks Solo Jogging. I've been biting my lip. <br />It's very odd how everyone else in the country knows the city much better than those of us who live here. <br />Or, since we are all violent bogan racists from spoon-fed old-boys-club schools, perhaps not so odd ;)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(Waltham Sydenham Wigram Brighton-on-Sea Linwood Riccarton Spreydon Are All In The South; It's Grim Down South)</p></blockquote><p>Massive respect.</p><p>For those who didn't get the reference: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtSdJaPCSI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtSdJaPCSI</a></p><p>JS &ndash; you point out that a lot of the poorer people in Wellington are out in Porirua and the Hutt.  Fair point, but…</p>
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						<p>The Pier has a few unforseen issues. <br />The fisher men and bait everywhere and their urinating off it.</p><p>There has been a focus on cobble stones to beautify pedestrian areas. Pretty but these uneven surfaces exclude those who are unsteady on their feet, alzheimers, elderly, etc &amp; so our new expensive…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Robyn, that concrete ramp is great for wheelchair users &ndash; wide and with careful gradient. So often with council developments accessibility issues are an add-on (or with the private sector ignored ). Possibly having Graham Condon on the council at the time helped. </p><p>We also went to Governors Bay (Shechocolate…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>tapi kapan saya di Manado</p></blockquote><p>Orang-orang Bali suka dan makan anjing juga. Tetapi mereka tidak menceritakan touris! <a href="http://www.simongrigg.info/images/rw.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kemarin di Denpasar..</a></p><p>[Sorry....talking about the partiality of certain parts of Indonesia to man's best friend as food, particularly the people of Manado and Bali (who don't admit it, amongst many things, to…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Having now seen the original beachside piers in Blackpool and Eastbourne in all their glory I am actually rather thankful that New Brighton has decided to go for something new, concrete and spartan.  I don't think the lack of a decrepit pub, ramschackle fun fair and a suspicious looking chip…
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						<blockquote><p>Thanks Gio, made my week.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know why I said it was OT, it's in fact perfectly pertinent. It's got dates all over the place but <a href="http://www.papergraphica.co.nz/news.asp#%3Cu%3EHERAKLES%20on%20tour%3C/u%3E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">nothing in Christchurch for a while by the looks</a>.</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I visited New Brighton last week, having previously been there in 1993. The main street does have a weird ghost town feel to it.   Surely it can't just have been the end of its uniqueness of having Saturday trading that killed the shops?</p><p>But what really got me about New…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.exhibitionservices.co.nz/exhibitiontours/show/lithographs-and-etchings" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marian Maguire</a></p></blockquote><p>Wow.</p><p>Thanks Gio, made my week.</p>
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						<p>@Simon Anjing! Belum.... tapi kapan saya di Manado ... munkin.  </p><p>@Just thinking Thanks. I really should read more ChCh history. Enjoyed McNeish's 'Mckenzie' recently.</p>
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						<p>Jogging Solo</p><p><a href="http://www.cup.canterbury.ac.nz/catalogue/southern_capital.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.cup.canterbury.ac.nz/catalogue/southern_capital.shtml</a></p><p>It is really good, about half of the Canty Uni History Lecturers contributed.</p><p>Christchurch History is very contested and slowly being rewritten.</p><p>Puari Pa that covered the Arts Centre to Town hall area of Christchurch, is being questioned as to its validity. That bones were being uncovered…</p>
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						<blockquote>So yes &ndash; there are nasty racists up and down the country. But stabbing an Afghani taxi driver is such a quintessential Christchurch crime. I think it’s because it’s only in Christchurch that the notion of a hierarchy with white English-bred people on top has been so blatantly nurtured for…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Rendang that does not look and taste like an Indian curry?</p></blockquote><p>In Auckland, KKs in Greenlane seem to be about the only folks who can do one that would pass muster in your Warung Desa, tapi tak parkai <a href="http://emzetgani.blogspot.com/2009/05/dog-meat-or-popular-as-rintek-wuuk-rw.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RW</a>.</p>
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						<p>Water pollution probbably is the most serious under Bowrons tannery &amp; around Woolston.</p><p>Our use of artesian water is not sustainable at our current level of consumption, regardless of dirty dairying.</p><p>We need to harvest our own rainfall for domestic use and onsite composting. I'm no-where near that.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>ChCh PAS readers all live within a suburb or two of the Uni</p></blockquote><p>No they don't.</p><blockquote><p>people from ChCh think they live in a city</p></blockquote><p>And now you know what I think based on where I live...</p><blockquote><p>They persist with the whole “first four ships” and “what school did you…</p></blockquote>
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						@Islander: No doubt they articulate it well. I'm not going to deny this is the case &mdash; but I don't necessarily see it. To paraphrase Franz Fenon, if you live in a white context you don't feel your race like minorities.... Its probably the same re school background &mdash; though…
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						<blockquote><p>Do you know where you can get a decent Rendang that does not look and taste like an Indian curry?</p></blockquote><p>Afraid I'm a vego, so can't really help there. The years I spent living within walking distance of the esteemed Istana in Freemans Bay rather spoiled me for NZ attempts…</p>
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						Jogging Solo- Cristchurch has been a farmers' city since the Deans' brothers (okay, that's a bit over the top, but since it was a Wakefield settlement, with all the deliberate hierarchy imported, and since it was primarily an Anglican settlement, the squires were designed to be the leaders in the…
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						<p>@Joe</p><p>Bagus! Do you know where you can get a decent Rendang that does not look and taste like an Indian curry?</p>
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						<blockquote> Other provincials know full well they’re from Hicksville – people from ChCh think they live in a city. An English City (not British, or European, mind). Specifically, Home-Counties-1950’s-English, before mass migration from the New Commonwealth. They persist with the whole “first four ships” and “what school did you go to?”…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>@Joe It has been great to see Riccaton turning into our very own China/Korea town. I can finally get some Soju and vege dumplings at decent prices whenever I want!</p></blockquote><p>Wouldn't know about that, Riccarton never did it for me but whatever rocks your boat. If you're into the local…</p>
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						<p>JoggingSolo, how long have you been gone?</p><p>I see your Tosh and raise you 'We are putting down an ancient Maori house in one of our best suburbs. It will be quite out of keeping.'p238 Southern Capital Christchurch.</p><p>Our Council has two lefty types on it. Yani &amp; Chrissie &amp; a couple…</p>
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						<p>st ephen &amp; Keir Leslie &ndash; you've articulated it.<br />Which is why almost all of mine, and me, have left the place.<br />There are wonderous &amp; beautiful things in &amp; about the city on the plains.<br />They aint worth living there for, though-<br />thank goodness my mother's roots are south!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Keir &mdash; people often talk about the old boy culture or the old boys club in relation to Christchurch. I'm curious, how do you see this manifesting?</p></blockquote><p>Well, you don't see it manifesting, that's the <em>point</em>. What good is a secret handshake if everybody knows about it?</p><p>To be honest,…</p>
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						<p>OK, we get it &ndash; ChCh PAS readers all live within a suburb or two of the Uni, and gee there are some great noodle houses around now...</p><p>There <em>is</em> something different about Christchurch though.  The locals there certainly think so.  It’s our most parochial town in our most parochial…</p>
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						<p>Jogging Solo<br />-scattershot-<br />St Margarets/Rangiruru/CHCH Girls' HS/St Bedes/St Andrews/Christ's College (there are the primary/intermediate schools also but why bother to go there?)- peripheral but erstwhile important &ndash; Avonside GHS/ Shirley HS-</p><p>-it is emphatically not just 'the business cimmunity': you're looking at a farming squatterarchy and entrenched political machine. You…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm sure I'd have something witty to say if I knew who Hatherley was.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://nastybrutalistandshort.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This bloke</a>.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the old boy culture</p></blockquote><p>Keir &mdash; people often talk about the old boy culture or the old boys club in relation to Christchurch. I'm curious, how do you see this manifesting?</p><p>Because, apart from having had some great teachers, I haven't got any kickbacks from having gone to a private…</p>
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						I'm sure I'd have something witty to say if I knew who Hatherley was. Curse this cultural desert in which I was brought up!
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						<blockquote><p>Something almost Hatherleyite</p></blockquote><p>Gasp! I knew the man had a large following, but the throwaway adjectivisation is a whole nother level.</p>
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						<p>I second Giovanni's suggestion.</p><p>(And, I have a lovely original Sam Mahon work, courtesy my friend David Alexender: it's a tin, with a label like DoC dog tucker on the front, with a kakapo above the print. On the back is a description of contents: (something like)<br />"Snuff snuff snuffle…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Nice lumping there, btw. My youngest child attends Riccarton Primary. It's 30% Pakeha.</p></blockquote><p>I am in fact well aware that Riccarton isn't the same as all the rest; likewise I dare say Harrogate isn't the same as Salford and Leeds. (Also, New Brighton is generally not known as Brighton-on-Sea and…</p>
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						<p>When I went to Ilam Primary it was a sea of white faces. Now my kids go there. At the last Cultural Day they did a rollcall of nationalities represented. I lost count after fifty.</p><p>And just as Emma says, that's the little bit of Christchurch I see. Could be…</p>
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						<p>@Islander</p><p>There is, absolutely a clear division between the lifestyles of the middle-class and the poor in Christchurch. But Is there not even more so in Auckland?</p><p>You say visible poverty is not a virtue. I agree. I was saying that calling middle-class Wellington city comparatively unified vs Christchurch while…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, Nick Smith and Rodney Hide get to 'review' ECan.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, about that... I don't know much about art, <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/3012193/Ministers-face-in-the-brown-stuff" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">but I know what I like</a>. This from a Christchurch artist. </p><p>(Very OT, but another Christchurch artist, <a href="http://www.exhibitionservices.co.nz/exhibitiontours/show/lithographs-and-etchings" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marian Maguire</a>, is exhibiting in Wellington. Go see her work, dammit.)</p>
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						Islander, I think they still are in most suburbs. But Riccarton/Ilam/Avonhead has become, in the twenty years I've lived in Chch, rapidly racially diverse. That's the little bit I live in, so that's the Chch I see. It's given my children something I find really precious, because I grew up…
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						<p>Emma, 50 years ago those proportions were *extremely* different.<br />I &amp; my 5 siblings, attended North New Brighton school: there were 3 recognised groups of children from 'other' families &ndash; us, the Momo whanau, &amp; the Smiths (Romany/Gypsy). A total of (about &ndash; hey, it's a long time ago!) 21 in a…</p>
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						<p>@Keir</p><p>"No other city in the country has a public space equal to the botanic gardens.</p><p>Um, Cuba St?"</p><p>Ha &ndash; that's a good point, Ken. </p><p>Christchurch did not have, at least when I was growing up, anything like the cosy inner-city cafe district that Wellington City has. I think…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>nowhere else in New Zealand have I encountered the sheer casual racism and homophobia of Christchurch</p></blockquote><p>My experience differs. Enormously. Have you ever been in a rural service town? </p><p>Nice lumping there, btw. My youngest child attends Riccarton Primary. It's 30% Pakeha.</p>
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						<p>Jogging  Solo &ndash; I grew up in CHCH &ndash; a long time ago. I still have cousin-family who live in CHCH.<br />The venomous racism of the 1950s still persists (it was ameliorated with my family because our father was part of the hierrarchy (and dont tell me there isnt an…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>No other city in the country has a public space equal to the botanic gardens.</p></blockquote><p>Um, Cuba St?</p><p>I dunno, while, yeah, hahaha let's all laugh at Christchurch is a bit dull, nowhere else in New Zealand have I encountered the sheer casual racism and homophobia of Christchurch. Nowhere else…</p>
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						Thanks Joe. And the Auckland Domain is lovely.... I may have gone a little overboard in order to make a point.
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						<blockquote><p>No other city in the country has a public space equal to the botanic gardens.</p></blockquote><p>Beg to differ on this. While the Christchurch b. gardens may, as a recent Sri Lankan migrant put it, resemble something from a beautiful dream, so does the Auckland Domain. Apart from that, very much…</p>
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						<p>Yeah, I know &ndash; then I changed it to Auckland City and central Wellington. That's what I meant to write, but as you can probably tell, I wrote the above post quite quickly.</p><p>Lyall Bay! It's hardly Porirua, is it? As for Newtown, it seems to me to be increasingly,…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Come on, now. Central Wellington is the wealthiest constituency in the country. Virtually everyone is middle-class, or a student.</p></blockquote><p>You wrote Wellington and central Wellington. I live halfway down Adelaide road, which is not exactly the Hutt. Also, Newtown, Lyall Bay... come on.</p>
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						<p>Giovanni &ndash; let me just say quickly in response to you (and to Emma!) that I am not addressing Emma, her article and its tone, but some of the cliqued comments about Christchurch in response to it. </p><p>But not by a long shot?</p><p>Come on, now. Central Wellington is the…</p>
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						<p>Couple of things: you do realise that Emma lives in Christchurch, right? I'd also be moderately careful about who you're calling wealthy urbane elite. </p><p>Secondly, this</p><blockquote><p>Wellington and Central Wellington are by-in-large middle-class only zones: all the "white trash," and the poor, uneducated and often disenfranchised and angry people live…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Sigh.  </p><p>Sometimes I feel that Kyle Chapman &ndash; whose followers you can count on one hand &ndash; exists essentially as an excuse for a bit of bully-boy Christchurch bashing. Because nobody would even know these guys existed if it wasn't for the media's tendency to promote anything that helps solidify…</p>
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						<p>I concur. I think it was about 1984 or some time after 1981 the NF made their inroads into the Christchurch Skinz.</p><p>But still in the 90s I saw Maori Skinz in Christchurch. The thing is they were lost kids in or around their teens. </p><p>Punks used the swastika alot…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(With one exception, a very loud moron called Rocky, quite dark skinned, who used to parade onto stages chanting 'kill all blacks").</p></blockquote><p>Oh god... shades of Dave Chappelle's black, blind Ku Klux Klan grand wizard...</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He formed a dub-influenced group as soon as he left the Pistols.</p></blockquote><p>And more than that. He convinced Branson, at some expense, to go with him to Jamaica as the Pistols ended, to sign acts for the once mighty Virgin <a href="http://www.discogs.com/label/Front+Line+Records" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Front Line</a> label, which at one time was arguably, partially…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>feel your flow</p></blockquote><p>Easy to do when you're willing to</p><blockquote><p>submit to God's chosen man</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>No, it's not. From my Facebook feed this morning:</p><blockquote><p>Have you committed to Brian Tamaki? Let us know &ndash; email <span id="x-protectfilter-1"></span><script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/if (document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1') != null) { document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').innerHTML=function(e){var r='';for(var i=110;i>=0;i-=2){r+=e.charAt(i);}return r;}('\u003eoap/x\u003c4zrnj.woAcc.vhHs\u003eoaofwV@8zSnYyja5gP\u003e0\"mzDn6.RoAcX.0hrswouotw\u003c@TzrnayKa8gd:BomtylgiIaWm9\"2=Tfce@rWhs Yav\u003cV'); document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').removeAttribute('id'); }/*]]>*/</script></p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't there some kid of law about asking your sons to "feel your flow"?</p></blockquote><p>Oh good, it's not just me reading that and wondering how anybody could write it with a straight face.</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						Isn't there some kid of law about asking your sons to "feel your flow"?
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						<p>I had a Sunday lunch with a girlfriends sisters family who were this sincere about the evils of Witches.</p><p>I'm sure there's a Pastor somewhere kicking himself he didn't take up the vampire crusade before HBO.</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						That just makes me think of the <a href="http://www.fellowshipofthesun.org/lodi/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Light of Day Institute</a>.
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						<p>To follow on from self deluded fools.</p><p>Garth George has done a number on Pope Brian.</p><p>What scares me is the direct oath to him and the excuse to act to offend others in defense of Brian. That's a licence to kill.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10605956&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10605956&amp;pnum=0</a></p>
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						<p>Privatising of Water leads to deprivation.<br />The rich pay less and have better serives and the poor pay more for less.<br />Or free if untreated and life threatening.</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						Perfect way to fund a stadium. Privatise water and then flog it off.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:54:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Oh, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10605991" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">hang on</a>.</p><blockquote><p>Hide opens door to privatised water deals</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Quite. All you'd have to do to discredit the scared racist thugs of the white power brigade is broadcast what their sad lives actually look like. Fortunately most people seem to see that already.  </p><p>I'm more worried about the discrepancy between levels of actual support and publicity of Act's whacko…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Eerily reminiscent of Vyvan on the Young Ones.</p></blockquote><p>Roflnui.</p><p>Interestingly enough, the car right outside is a Mitsubishi Sigma. If these wackos practised what they preached, shouldn't it be a Ford/Holden/BLMC?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>The "white way":</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUz7SfFZQI4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUz7SfFZQI4</a></p><p>Eerily reminiscent of Vyvan on the Young Ones.</p>
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						Scorpio has vintage hardcore porn for sale, it made me blush & a little quezzey &ndash; just next to the Architecture section Emma ;)
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>In Chch over the weekend. Admired the trout and eels in the Avon. Was yet again unable to avoid Scorpio books or leave without purchasing. Had momentary disorientation in Northlands mall where I thought I was in St Lukes but there were too many white people.</p><p>Based on PAS representation,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Suburb-wise it reminded me a bit of Lyall Bay, a bit sandy and rugged.</p></blockquote><p>And windy as all hell sometimes.</p><p>Apparently <em>South</em> Brighton is the Brighton to be seen in, and has a good primary school, etc. Central and north are struggling a bit more.</p><p>But Blair and I went…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						By sheer coincidence I was in New Brighton last Sunday having never been there before. Had no preconceived notions. I saw a huge fabulous beach (white sand, aqua sea) with cared-for dunes and pathways. People surfing and kids playing. Even people flying overhead like human seagulls. I noted a frequent…
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						<p>Little Hagley is an interesting space. <br />Set aside for Maori it was stated as being too close to nice neighbourhoods for that. This was by Councillors in the 1980s.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						If you like waterfowl &ndash; which I do &ndash; Christchurch is hard to beat. Present-day Brighton may be a shadow of it's Saturday-shopping heyday, but back then you'd never see a paradise duck within the city limits. Now they're colonising the green bits of Cranmer Square. Honk!
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						<p>Yes and Hagley is under threat again. Canty Cricket want to fence the heart of it off for a new stadium.</p><p>Need we say the C-word ... Conservatorium. And before you say it is a bout music, it's not. </p><p><a href="http://canterburyheritage.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://canterburyheritage.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html</a></p><p><a href="http://soac.org.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://soac.org.nz/</a></p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Cathedral Square's a godforsaken mess where only tourists dare tread</p></blockquote><p>True, the Square has been an urban design money pit disaster for a good twenty years now. But two blocks over, Victoria Square is lovely. And you'd have to be entirely constructed from the reanimated corpses of property developers to…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>I dunno, I think Christchurch does public space <em>horribly</em>, Cathedral Square's a godforsaken mess where only tourists dare tread, Hagley Park's good but still, sports fields are only so lovable, and then most of the rest of the parks in Christchurch are blah.</p><p>The most lively `public' spaces in Christchurch…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just despair of the city, and many of the people I know in it, who cling to this vision of Christchurch as "the English City".</p></blockquote><p><em> cringe </em><br />For the Geographicly challenged... English  Cities tend to be in England. I would also like to remind the residents of Dunedin that…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the creepiness of VR spiders.</p></blockquote><p>If you turn the 'walk bounce' up to maximum it can be quite perky.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Minor point, but people tend to underestimate the creepiness of VR spiders.</p></blockquote><p>I assure you that I don't, ergo there is no way in HELL I'm clicking on that link.</p><blockquote><p>But then I forced myself to remember that, despite spending all my time in those places, that's not my city.…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>we might give you a picture of a spider, then a VR spider</p></blockquote><p>Minor point, but <a href="http://www.onemotion.com/flash/spider/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">people tend to underestimate the creepiness of VR spiders.</a></p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The old boys would have you believe it's theirs but I can tell you there is a strong current for social good (yes they are mutually exclusive) in Christchurch.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, yes, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. </p><p>I just despair of the city, and many of the people I know…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Christchurch is multifaceted.</p><p>The old boys would have you believe it's theirs but I can tell you there is a strong current for social good (yes they are mutually exclusive) in Christchurch.</p></blockquote><p>Important point. We tend to think of Christchurch at the establishment level &mdash; but, as you say, there…</p>
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						<p>wrt spitting:</p><p>Siouxsie Sioux, of Siouxsie and the Banshees, caught conjunctivitis after gob landed in her eye.</p><p>Joe Strummer got glandular fever after he swallowed it.</p><p>Yum.</p>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I just say that I loved webweavers' little trip(s) down memory lane?</p></blockquote><p>Me too. I've never enjoyed a pointed take-down more.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And people ask why I love you guys to bits and pieces? :)
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						<blockquote>Good rule of thumb: If it smells like week-old road-kill, don't put it in your mouth.</blockquote> Must write that one somewhere :) But I must say here, one of my fondest memories.......oh better still.....
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						<blockquote><p>Oh ewwww. I think reason number two (number one being: born in 1974) why I could never have been a true punk was the... crustiness.</p></blockquote><p>Heh... and I could have been a Bright Young Thing for no other reason than because the clothes were nice. (The witty banter while bombed…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Front row for Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions in 1978</p></blockquote><p>O HAI: I totally hate you. :)</p><blockquote><p>of course the inevitable hairdo full of gob. Actually, pogoing around under a rain of spit was something we all got used to &ndash; it was sometimes even quite refreshing in a twisted sort…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Sorry some detail may be required here.</p><p>Cathedral Grammer exists on both sides of Chester St West and has gates at either end of the Street which are closed during school hours. The obvious extention of this is the closure of the Street for the benefit of a Private School.…</p>
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						<p>Christchurch is multifaceted.</p><p>The old boys would have you believe it's theirs but I can tell you there is a strong current for social good (yes they are mutually exclusive) in Christchurch.</p><p>The various colours have always been on display and the streets are very much a contested space. From…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I might also recommend 'This is England' as a DVD hire for a slow night. </p><p>    The film is centred on young skinheads, and is set in England in July 1983. The film illustrates that the skinhead subculture, whose roots are associated with Jamaican culture (especially ska, rocksteady, and reggae music),…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>There are times when I miss the place. The resurgence of Messrs Chapman and friends quite cures that.</p></blockquote><p>Last weekend, quite a number of my friends were in Christchurch, and were tweeting all kinds of fun things. Museum! Arts Centre! Gallery! Sun! It made me rather homesick. But then I…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						We could invite all racial supremacists from all the various races around the place, put them all in a ring and get them to fight to the death awarding the winning race a ribbon.
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						Aww thanks, Matthew... Yeah there is one thing to be said for a) having been born in the UK and b) having been born <em>such</em> a long time ago &ndash;  at least I got to have punk as one of my seminal musical influences and the genre in which I…
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						<blockquote><p>helllppp &ndash; how do I embed it?? I still haven't figured it out!</p></blockquote><p>Just paste in the URL</p>
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						What I want to know is are they also keeping the bears away? Because I demand more bear patrols!
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p>Can I just say that I loved webweavers'  little trip(s) down memory lane? Some of those acts she mentioned I would've sold my grandmother to have seen at the time. But of course I wasn't even born then, so fortunately, my grandmother was safe. </p><p>Carry on.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the Clash's indomitable self-mythology</p></blockquote><p>Which is why they kind of, sort of... annoy me a little bit. It all seemed so terribly po-faced...</p><p>(That being said, I've watched the recent documentaries  with interest, and I like a lot of their songs. And <em>Sandinista</em> is awesome.)</p><p>Note: 'Should I Stay Or…</p>
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						<p>Now Paul Weller for the BDO, I could do that.:)<br /> Jonny Rotten as well, starting to sound like.... like.....'cellent, 'some.</p>
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						<p>Heh. And I see that in the time it took me to compose that lengthy missive about 15 other people said pretty much the same thing.</p><p>Look! Another great blast from the past video &ndash; with some of my favourite ever lyrics:</p><blockquote><p>And a hundred lonely housewives clutch empty milk…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Continuing the punk thread derailing...</p><p>Caleb, you've got it completely and totally the wrong way round.</p><p>As someone who was actually *there*, partaking fully in the 70's British punk scene, I can tell you that it was most definitely NOT skinhead and NOT racist and NOT all-white. In fact a…</p>
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						<p>Dear old deviant Chch. The only city in the world where it's cheaper to buy a home near the beach than it is by the airport.</p><p>Now we know one of the reasons.</p><p>There are times when I miss the place. The resurgence of Messrs Chapman and friends quite cures…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Only White Man in the Hammersmith Palais.<br />Gawd I used to love this.</p></blockquote><p>You've gotta admit, writing that song was a huge leap in the dark- it's weird because the whole song questions the Clash's indominitable self-mythology and somehow strengthens it. Jon Savage's book devotes a whole page to that…</p>
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						<p>I might also recommend '<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_England" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This is England</a>' as a DVD hire for a slow night.</p><blockquote><p>The film is centred on young skinheads, and is set in England in July 1983. The film illustrates that the skinhead subculture, whose roots are associated with Jamaican culture (especially ska, rocksteady, and reggae music),…</p></blockquote>
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						<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTnijX0TH-w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTnijX0TH-w</a><br /><em>Only White Man in the Hammersmith Palais.</em><br />Gawd I used to love this.</p><blockquote><p>Punk pretty much stopped being good when some shaven oafs decided it was white music.</p></blockquote><p>Strength through oi.</p><blockquote><p>Steve B &ndash; the old NB pier had slot machines up until the early 1960s:</p></blockquote><p>I only went…</p>
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						<p>Looks like Russell beat me to it with the Don Letts reference, but if the white punks were supposed to be on-message about not hanging out with the non-whites, it's a pity they were always going off <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dread-Meets-Punk-Rockers-Uptown/dp/B00005QZF3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">uptown to hang out with them....</a></p><blockquote><p>UK release compiled by DJ Don Letts…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm with you: Caleb's wrong.</p><p>The first-wave British punks liked reggae because it was seen as an outsider music. There was reggae played between bands at punk gigs &mdash; Don Letts was the DJ at one of the original punk clubs, The Roxy, and subsequently made his feature debut with…</p></blockquote>
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