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Sacha

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:50:57 +1300

"What dotted eyes you have grammar"
tease
#crossed

mark taslov

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:44:07 +1300

Foucault’s ‘Society must be Defended’

Thanks for this Hilary. I felt this was well addressed in Lizzie Marvelly 's opinion piece over the weekend:

I hope that our differences will provide us with new and interesting perspectives. I hope that we will resist the temptation to "other" each other, and that…

andin

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:15:15 +1300

Great march/ protest
My humble congrats to all who went

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:05:40 +1300

little read writing hood...
...nary a spelling or grammar error to be seen.
"What dotted eyes you have grammar"
;- )

andin

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:25:23 +1300

thanks

Kumara Republic

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:05:37 +1300

It’s more than that Tristan. It’s misogyny: “Be attracted to X or I invalidate you” – Rape culture. There are bigots in every minority who do this shit – and risk turning subjugated groups into political footballs – for their own gratification. Humanity is expert at vilifying whole movements based…

Kumara Republic

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:50:44 +1300

Its all been in the pipeline of human consciousness for a long time IMO.
When business' were able to ship manufacturing offshore, unions were demonised, and self centred philosophies gained a glittering stage on which to peddle selfishness/ its your attitude bullshit( otherwise known as emotional blackmail or guilt tripping)…

Rich Lock

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:48:35 +1300

As I very carefully qualified, it needs to be combined with a certain amount of rabid anger.

mark taslov

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:25:54 +1300

...I am saying that anyone lacking a respectable level of literacy might be...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism

Rich Lock

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:49:40 +1300

So pleased to see all these bigly marches all over the world. Am spending a relaxing Sunday morning giggling at the imaginative placards.

And as someone pointed out on a comments thread I was reading, nary a spelling or grammar error to be seen.

Now, I'm not saying you can…

mark taslov

Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:15:14 +1300

...and thank you.

mark taslov

Sun, 22 Jan 2017 21:36:43 +1300

The Guardian broadcast the DC gathering live and have compiled a phenomenal collection of videos, articles and photographs of the event worldwide. Beautiful messaging, congratulations to all involved.

mark taslov

Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:06:24 +1300

Whether that is because the left candidate didn’t have a penis (USA)

I have reservations about this Bart. Being transgender or simply undergoing GRS would most likely not have enhanced the left candidate’s chances of an electoral victory in the USA.

I understand that what you meant and what you…

Sacha

Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:23:22 +1300

Check who got into the Press's footage of the Chch event.

Russell Brown

Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:34:48 +1300

Couple more, just as the last walkers were arriving.

Russell Brown

Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:27:31 +1300

The panoramas (uploaded at full resolution).

Russell Brown

Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:25:12 +1300

The Auckland march was fabulous. I missed the walk up Queen Street (I was e-waste recycling), but got to Myers Park just as the final marchers were arriving.

The event in the park had a lovely vibe and the speakers were strong, positive and to the point. It was hard…

Emma Hart

Sat, 21 Jan 2017 13:03:51 +1300

So I just got home from the Christchurch march, and it was so great to see so many people there. There wasn't much notice, it was all through social media, I was thinking maybe 50-100 people. There were hundreds. The messaging was so inclusive and positive.

I am fucking exhausted…

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:30:44 +1300

That is genuinely heartening Russell. I had to google and I’m pleased I did.

Pani's way cool.

mark taslov

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:16:57 +1300

Pantea “Pani” Farvid, PhD: Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Psychology, AUT

That is genuinely heartening Russell. I had to google and I'm pleased I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5YctpK7pM

mark taslov

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:54:59 +1300

So there is also a virtual march for people who, for whatever reason, can’t get to a physical one.

Thanks for this Emma, I'll be there.

mark taslov

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:50:41 +1300

Being told your not a lesbian because you are not attracted to trans women seems really hurtful.

It’s more than that Tristan. It’s misogyny: “Be attracted to X or I invalidate you” – Rape culture. There are bigots in every minority who do this shit – and risk turning subjugated…

Tracey Barnett

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:37:51 +1300

Why I march. Join us, Aucklanders, in front of the US Consulate, 23 Customs Street. This Saturday at 10:30am. #WhyIMarch #WMAkl

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11785360

Tristan

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:34:36 +1300

just saw this. Excellent article.

Being told your not a lesbian because you are not attracted to trans women seems really hurtful. No one says straight men should sleep with transwomen or they not straight

Mixing Sexual orientation with gender orientation seems really problematic.

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:21:25 +1300

Things to know, from the Auckland march organisers:

A Message from Women's March New Zealand:

Friday January 20 – one day to go!
Dear Women’s Marcher, just one day to go until the march! Here is some information you could find helpful.

SIGNS/PLACARDS
We encourage all participants to bring their…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:07:41 +1300

There is a great sense of solidarity knowing you are part of a women’s world wide knitting/craft resistance.
...is this what they call having 'skein in the game'?
;- )

Emma Hart

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:50:53 +1300

So there is also a virtual march for people who, for whatever reason, can't get to a physical one.

Physical marches are always slightly problematic for disabled people, or sometimes people with pushchairs, anyone for whom physical activity can be challenging. This time I'm lucky in that my health has…

mark taslov

Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:49:50 +1300

My apologies for the typos.

And also for my tone. It’s not you at all, it’s systemic and I’m sick of the slurs from every direction, it’s just overwhelming.

Sarah Grey puts things more coherently.

My apologies to you also Emma for being an over-aggressive arsehole once again.

Rosemary McDonald

Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:49:25 +1300

I know it might sound a little cutesy, but it has been a fun experience.

Thanks Karen. I don't, no can't knit (to save myself) but I might make one out of polar fleece...maybe with sewn in ears. (Although, at first glance the knitted hats appear to have stylized [[…

Karen Hester

Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:55:59 +1300

I was knitting my hat for the DC march while reading this and of course messed up a couple stitches. Rosemary, the pussy hats come from Trump's "grab them by the pussy" line. It's a fun participatory craft thing, and we were worried DC etc could be freezing on march…

Hilary Stace

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:09:59 +1300

Thanks for the knitting pattern reference, Emma. After reading that I went and bought some wool and knitting needles and am doing my first knitting in about 20 years. You don't forget how to. There is a great sense of solidarity knowing you are part of a women's world wide…

David Hood

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:16:02 +1300

This was the article on the Austrian election I was thinking of

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/31/not-game-over-austria-stopped-rightwing-populism-election

william blake

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:34:49 +1300

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/01/09/social-self-defense-protecting-people-and-planet-against-trump-and-trumpism

mark taslov

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:30:09 +1300

That link was a depressing read. In case there is need for me to clarify Rosemary, I’m not calling Steinem a transmisogynist because she won’t sleep with me, I’ve no idea about her sexuality. That 1.2% or so of the population – leading rape and suicide stats – pose a…

Rosemary McDonald

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:58:37 +1300

or any transmisogynist for that matter, drawing the trans person back into that conversation doesn’t magically validate it.

This was posted on The Standard the other day and held me engrossed for over an hour...reading the text, following the links and reading the comments.

I've been mulling it over ever…

mark taslov

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:38:52 +1300

My apologies for the typos.

mark taslov

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:42:54 +1300

Perhaps if you had such an interest in Ms Steinem’s career and views as you purported to, you’d know these things.

Why would you assume I don’t? How could I not? I understand that the kind objectification that Steinem participates in in the interview is deemed acceptable behaviour on these…

Hilary Stace

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:07:56 +1300

As an alternative to marching there is the option of a communal reading of Foucault's 'Society must be Defended'
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/01/16/anthropology-groups-organize-foucault-read-inauguration-day

Bart Janssen

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:51:29 +1300

I keep meaning to do what I usually try and do – write about it in a way that might be useful to other people – but it’s surprisingly difficult.

I wont be marching. I have a prior engagement sorry. Also crowds kinds freak me out now as I get…

Emma Hart

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:24:50 +1300

There is also now a march in Dunedin. If you know of other NZ events, please link to them here.

TracyMac

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:19:00 +1300

Derail done, I feel pretty damn disheartened as well. I'll be going along to the march in Canberra on Monday, but I think the whole thing is going to be pretty futile. Maybe it'll kick off a rolling series of protests, like Occupy, but that did nothing concrete either.

:-/…

TracyMac

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:06:49 +1300

Frankly, this is the first I heard of Steinem being involved in the US march. And since she is still the most recognisable feminist in the country, it'd actually be odd if she weren't a "prominent figure" involved in it. And she is certainly not an organiser of the thing…

Russell Brown

Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:32:46 +1300

You might be mildly interested to know that I’ve actually been waiting/wondering when you’re going to write about this.

Aw, how sweet! Thinking I'll have a crack tomorrow, actually, once the Herald Business feature I'm doing is filed.

Rich Lock

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:34:19 +1300

Every day, some fresh absurdity, some new outrage.

You might be mildly interested to know that I've actually been waiting/wondering when you're going to write about this. Partly because I need a place to just vent about exactly this: just...what the fuck? What the actual fucking fuck?

There's been a…

Stephen R

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:39:52 +1300

I'm going to the Wellington march, and am churning out a few Pussyhats as well. Here's the pattern for craftily-minded readers.

My partner finished her one this evening. It's very pink.

Looks like we're going as well,

David Hood

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:34:23 +1300

I read an article about the liberal left presidential campaign in Austria, which resulted in an increased victory for the greenish candidate over the far right one. That said the lefts campaign had been all about shared values and common decency rather than parties- hence the lefts candidate running as…

mark taslov

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:44:59 +1300

Same, that's why I'm commenting on it here now.

mark taslov

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:44:15 +1300

I had hoped I could leave my objection here without the requirement to reread the wikipedia page. As I said I support the cause. I’m ok disagreeing on the benefits of the publicity Steinem and her views may derive from her being positioned front and centre.

With that in mind…

Russell Brown

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:15 +1300

promoted as a leading figurehead of the marches

To be honest, this is the first time I recall seeing her name mentioned in connection with them.

william blake

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:20:19 +1300

Emma Hart

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:11:31 +1300

Supporting the cause is rather easier than supporting her cause in this instance.

It's not her cause.

On November 9, Teresa Shook of Hawaii created a Facebook event and invited 40 of her friends to march on Washington to protest Trump's election. Similar Facebook pages created by Evvie Harmon, Fontaine…

andin

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:14:40 +1300

the year so many people decided to Choose Hate. Brexit. Trump.
And johnkey decided I'm outta here, chicken shit.

Its all been in the pipeline of human consciousness for a long time IMO.
When business' were able to ship manufacturing offshore, unions were demonised, and self centred philosophies gained a…

mark taslov

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:23:54 +1300

For me with Steinem, it’s not so much that she’s problematic but more that she is a seasoned bigot against women – promoted as a leading figurehead of the marches. That’s what the photographs will show and the headline news will read.

Supporting the cause is rather easier than supporting…

Emma Hart

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:56:10 +1300

I keep meaning to do what I usually try and do – write about it in a way that might be useful to other people – but it’s surprisingly difficult.

It's really difficult! I even used an exclamation mark, which, ugh. But y'know, we argue with them, they become more…

Emma Hart

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:47:39 +1300

Yeah, Steinem is problematic on trans issues, like so many feminists of her generation, which is a fucking shame. (Maher is not problematic. Maher is an arsehole.)

This is a list of the Women's March supporting partner organisations, who will be marching and/or providing some kind of support. It includes…

Carol Stewart

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:43:53 +1300

The people knitting the Pussy Hats for it in the States have caused a wide-spread shortage of pink wool.

I'm going to the Wellington march, and am churning out a few Pussyhats as well. Here's the pattern for craftily-minded readers.

Russell Brown

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:40:02 +1300

What can we do?

I keep meaning to do what I usually try and do – write about it in a way that might be useful to other people – but it’s surprisingly difficult.

There’s just too much data. Every day, some fresh absurdity, some new outrage. How do you…

mark taslov

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:19:29 +1300

Obviously this is a cause of great significance, but it’s an important cause that has appointed Gloria Steinem as an honorary co-chair, how does this march relate to the LGBTQIA community?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoV3UgQBvh4
(5:45)

Public Address

Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:19:29 +1300

Discussion from blog post.