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Moz

Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:34:23 +1200

There are studies which indicate that both men and women perceive the same woman with larger breasts to be both friendlier, and stupider.

I recall reading one of the studies on academic slavery in the US where women teachers got the most astonishing remarks in their student evaluations, with one…

Moz

Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:26:41 +1200

HR is a wasteland

HR is there not to keep the peasants from revolting, but to keep revolts from damaging anything important (the company and board first, senior executives second). Once you understand that many "problems" with HR can be seen as necessary to its functioning. You may also find…

Bart Janssen

Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:19:45 +1200

Yeah, when I was seventeen I was told, by my biology teacher, that if I wanted to be taken seriously, I should have a breast reduction operation.

Also you shouldn’t care about your personal appearance you shouldn't waste time on a social life you shouldn’t wear nice clothes you shouldn’t…

Bart Janssen

Mon, 25 Jul 2016 08:50:59 +1200

As an aside, there’s exactly zero evidence for that currently, although it seems intuitively true.

In science, the field I was talking about, there is a metric shittonne of evidence that having a group with diverse backgrounds and race and culture and experience and gender improves the quality of the…

Emma Hart

Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:35:24 +1200

I’m having trouble thinking of a reason why the two are assumed to be mutually exclusive

Because of sexism, I guess. Was it really that hard to imagine a scenario involving sexism?

Yeah, when I was seventeen I was told, by my biology teacher, that if I wanted to be…

BenWilson

Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:19:15 +1200

I’m having trouble thinking of a reason why the two are assumed to be mutually exclusive

Because of sexism, I guess. Was it really that hard to imagine a scenario involving sexism?

As an aside, there’s exactly zero evidence for that currently, although it seems intuitively true.

Your evidence for…

Sister Mary Gearchange

Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:51:28 +1200

>I remember hearing a female scientist talking on the radio about how on the one hand she wanted to be sexually attractive to men and be taken seriously as a scientist at the same time. But that was difficult becouse of the boys club culture.<

Ignoring value statements about each individual goal, I'm having trouble thinking of a reason why the two are assumed to be mutually exclusive?

And someone else said:

>I hassle our HR department about…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:00:16 +1200

What sorts of actions do you take? And what sorts of responce do you get from your counterparts at work when you do?

I try, and it's likely that I fail sometimes because of unconscious biases, to make sure women get time ...
time to make their point
time to…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:07 +1200

What kind of sexism are you seeing in science, and other than Paul Henry, who or what is driving it?

Oh man, where to start. Essentially everything you can think of as sexist is true in science. I guess one difference is the victims are scientists and quite often collect…

Bart Janssen

Thu, 21 Jul 2016 08:28:31 +1200

here’s Michelle Dickinson talking about how she felt about it, and why she does shows like Paul Henry:

I realised, that only I can make the decisions on whose show I choose to go on and my reasons for doing that. Until we can get funding for a prime time…

Emma Hart

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:12:10 +1200

Que? What? Can someone take pity on a person stuck with primarily US media sources who has, therefore, missed whatever is being mentioned there and point me towards some good overview coverage of whatever that is referring to, pls?

So I just went and looked for the clip, and TV3…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:42:16 +1200

Litmus Test of the Good Taste and Decency Standard
pHuckers?

Spooky!
I just got back from a walk by the avon and down past Banks Ave school and spotted a pile of rubbish in a section – and that classic line from Alice's Restaurant sprang instantly to mind:
"Yes,…

Sister Mary Gearchange

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:39:52 +1200

Context is awfully important for many, if not most, things emotional, IMO. I'm rather glad the BSA does it this way, even though I'm not convinced I agree with their list/rankings. Mind you, I also am quite sure that I don't want to agree with their list because if they…

Matthew Poole

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:25:58 +1200

They can’t be called cunts, because they lack the warmth and depth.

Cunts are lovely, useful things. Neither adjective is generally suitable as a description for most people at whom the charge is levelled.

Howard Edwards

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:25:10 +1200

"There was all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly-lookin' people on the bench there .
. . there was mother-rapers . . . father-stabbers . . . father-rapers!
FATHER-RAPERS sittin' right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean
And nasty and ugly and horrible and crime fightin'…

Moz

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:42:38 +1200

Also, every one of those needs a matching emojii. We have 💩 but I can't really think of one for the rest. (and yes, there are unicode code points and glyphs for that as well as many, many others – if the Chinese can have 40,000+ for their language, I…

WaterDragon

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:20:44 +1200

Some things amongst the considerable pile of ordure peddled by Henry, Plunket, Hoskings and their fellow travellers are "slow steamers". Shauney's ill-considered rant to Louise Carrol comes into that category. It still leaves me incensed, and I still consider that the BSA got it very wrong. I try not to…

Moz

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:59:48 +1200

Looking at the bad words list... I'd put retard higher, along with nigger, coon and boong (are those last two particularly Australian?), but fuck lower, depending on context. I do think PA should have a similar survey, because I think we'd have a different set of ratings and probably a…

Prudence

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:45:24 +1200

Moz

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:29:37 +1200

I do use arse or arsehole as a generic insult, and I think it works better above. But far be it for me to tell Emma how to swear properly (I have an amusing mental image of that). And I recall a discussion on feministe or somewhere on good, rude-but-not-offensive…

Emma Hart

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:20 +1200

I was really interested to note that the advisory for Roots specifically mentioned context – that words that would otherwise have been unacceptable were used because of how they had been used in that particular setting.

Yeah, this is something I think is really important: depicting something doesn't mean approving…

Joe Wylie

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:35:59 +1200

But I think it was in Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant it was used to great comic effect?

Father-rapers, if memory serves

dave stewart

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:28:16 +1200

Interesting that father-fucker continues to be seldom deployed, despite it conjuring an image every bit as insulting as its more commonly used female counterpart.
But I think it was in Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant it was used to great comic effect?
There certainly seems to be no shortage of candidates…

linger

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:06:38 +1200

I too inserted the word cunt into each of those gaps and I was annoyed at myself for doing so. There are better words.Yeah, “misogynist self-centred one-eyed prick” is more accurate (at the very least, it’s their perceived job description). As the old saying goes, __They can’t be called cunts,…

Isabel Hitchings

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:39:31 +1200

Emma Hart

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:28:56 +1200

Would he have asked Professor Sir Peter Gluckman if he’d fucked Richard Branson? It demonstrated a level of contempt he has for all women and this amazing woman in particular – all while smiling and pretending to treat her as a guest.

Yeah, three of the complaints used (one upheld,…

Bart Janssen

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:09:19 +1200

It’s okay to ask a female scientist if she’s fucked Richard Branson.

This made me so angry.

Would he have asked Professor Sir Peter Gluckman if he'd fucked Richard Branson? It demonstrated a level of contempt he has for all women and this amazing woman in particular – all while…

linger

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:37:03 +1200

While Hosking, Henry, and Plunket are (or should be)
a job lot of job openings waiting to happen,
the second quote clearly pegs Plunket as an arsehole.

Public Address

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:37:03 +1200

Discussion from blog post.