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				<title>chris</title>
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						<p><q>there was all sorts of sexuality and gender identifications going on. Boys looked like girls, girls looked like boys and there where kid that looked like clowns.</q></p><p>Which is fine when kids have confidence, parental support and aren’t living in provincial towns still stuck in the 1950s.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						My experience as a mother of a new third former is that you had to have everything new, and all the extras, to be cool. Which meant numerous items to allow for washing, all weathers etc. It was so expensive.  Although after a few years it no longer mattered. Whereas…
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p><q>About kids being shamed because they cannot afford the new expensive uniform and shoes and all the extras rather than the shiny hand me downs. </q></p><p>Er. As I recall, having a new uniform and/or new shoes was not desireable. It made you look like a third former. And if you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 11:49:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Get Smart, redux...</strong><br /><q>the big picture. (Obama &amp; trainer)</q><br />Classic &ndash; funk sole brother!<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBClImpnfAg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBClImpnfAg</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:52:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...some of us where a little sketchy.</q><br />...it can be a long, drawn out process, life.<br />;-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:47:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<p><q>Those stats on trans kids are enlightening. I’d have thought uniformity (neutral or otherwise) was a poor way to allow someone to explore and identify their identity. But then, I’m not trans. Anyone?</q></p><p>I didn't look at the stats, but if you're looking around the classroom and you're dressed the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 20:15:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>petty-minded authoritarianism</q></p><p>yep. and parents supported the board of trustees on that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 19:49:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I think a uniform is one of the easiest and least disruptive ways to avoid kids feeling shitty 'cause they can't all have the flashest clothes all the time.</q></p><p>I remember the rich kids still found ways to mark themselves out (optional blazer rather than jersey, allowed earrings being solid…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Do we want to teach students conformity above all, or encourage creativity? Uniforms are all about forcing students in all their diversity into one peg hole. About adults saying do what I say but not what I do. About kids being shamed because they cannot afford the new expensive uniform…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>it demonstrates one of our school values</q></p><p>"petty-minded authoritarianism". Punishing kids for breaking stupid rules teaches them to NOT respect their school.</p>
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				<title>icehawk</title>
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						<p><q>And as someone who went to a no-uniform school (Wellington High, mid-90s), I can tell you that’s the exact opposite of my experience. </q></p><p>That matches my daughter's current experience at Wgtn High, where she started this year.</p><p>One of the kids on her school sports team identified as male last…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:07:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<q>And as someone who went to a no-uniform school (Wellington High, mid-90s), I can tell you that’s the exact opposite of my experience. Granted, it may have had something to do with High’s very Liberal culture, but there was absolutely no hassling on the basis of clothes, and certainly none…</q>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p><q>I think a uniform is one of the easiest and least disruptive ways to avoid kids feeling shitty ’cause they can’t all have the flashest clothes all the time.</q><br /><q>And as someone who went to a no-uniform school (Wellington High, mid-90s), I can tell you that’s the exact opposite of…</q></p>
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				<title>NBH</title>
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						<p><q>I think a uniform is one of the easiest and least disruptive ways to avoid kids feeling shitty 'cause they can't all have the flashest clothes all the time. </q></p><p>And as someone who went to a no-uniform school (Wellington High, mid-90s), I can tell you that's the exact opposite of…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>This is not so much “but a ‘boy’ might wear a skirt!” as “We may teach your nine year old to smash the patriarchy, okay?” </q></p><p>Roflnui.</p><p><q>There’s only one place where I have a serious problem with this whole thing: it’s not compulsory. The schools who will do this will…</q></p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>We called those shorts “fanny crushers”.</q></p><p>:-D</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:29:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						We called those shorts "fanny crushers".
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:00:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						A long, long time ago Milo,  who were sponsoring the NZ women's netball wanted to have the Milo logo emblazoned on  the seat of the ladies knickers....went down like a cup of cold sick...
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q> There was a minor revolt, with many of the girls wearing black knit shorts or boylegs under their skirts.</q></p><p>Boys and men playing netball wear trackies. I've never understood why women don't also.</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Uniform: a logic-free zone.</q></p><p>The ban against wearing shorts under the netball tunics.  Never got it. Many of the girls would be playing with one hand holding down the edge of their tunics.  There was a minor revolt,  with many of the girls wearing black knit shorts or boylegs under…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						I remember having figure-hugging flannel shorts at intermediate that we had to wear under our skirts if we wanted to to handstands at break-time. Fari enough, I guess. But we wore these same shorts <em>without skirts</em> on the street when we marched out to sports practice/games. We might as well…
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						I remember mufti days as being incredibly high pressure &ndash; you only had a few days a year on which to make an impression so everything had to be perfect. My kids, who have never worn uniforms, experience no such pressure. They, and their classmates, dress in all sorts of…
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>There were plenty of us who dreaded mufti day, </q></p><p>Thanks TracyMac...I thought I was imagining it. </p><p> The absolute horror of impending mufti days at the all girls school.  We could not afford the necessary clothes....and for god's sakes it shouldn't have mattered to the girl....but it did.  (She had an…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>And yeah, sex ed that explained sexuality as a continuum, and one that can be fluid for some people, would have been great. </p><p>Sure, sex with boys for me was adequate in terms of getting off, but it would have made the eventual cluehammer about my actual leanings a bit…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						I went to what is now a decile 1 school (before the extra funding became available), and having a uniform was great, because it was a level playing field. There were plenty of us who dreaded mufti day, because  we didn't have "cool clothes" to wear. Let's just say the…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Those stats on trans kids are enlightening. I’d have thought uniformity (neutral or otherwise) was a poor way to allow someone to explore and identify their identity. But then, I’m not trans. Anyone?</q></p><p>I'm always rather reluctant to write on trans* and intersex issues because they're not my issues. But…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Are you saying I’m lying?</p><p>Misguided?</p><p>Or simply not allowed an opinion, based on experience?</q></p><p>Of course you are allowed an opinion. However, based on my personal experience I don’t believe you are correct. In five years at such a school I saw no such “huge issues”.</p><p>So no I…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Believe me</p><p>Nope I don’t.</q></p><p>Are you saying I'm lying?</p><p>Misguided?</p><p>Or simply not allowed an opinion,  based on experience?</p><p>"Perhaps we could trust kids to learn to cope with angst."</p><p>Perhaps we should look at the youth suicide rate,  the number of youth needing counselling or psychiatric care.  The…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Believe me</q></p><p>Nope I don't. Sorry but I went to such a school. There was angst but no more than my friends had who went to uniform schools.</p><p>Perhaps we could trust kids to learn to cope with angst</p>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p>I wore a uniform and hated every minute of it. Does that count? </p><p>Later on, I didn't have to wear a uniform, and choosing what to wear was the least of my worries. Believe me. </p><p>Those stats on trans kids are enlightening. I'd have thought uniformity (neutral or otherwise) was…</p>
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				<title>Nicola</title>
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						<p>I was decile 3, and we had the standard issue white polo &ndash; black pants/skirt &ndash; red sweater with school emblem. And a uniform bank for those on low incomes, I think.</p><p>It was cheap (let's face it, high school kids keep changing size), there were several places you could…</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><em>My kids went to non-uniform high schools, and that was way more convenient.</em>.</p><p>My son goes to a non-uniform school, my daughter to a uniform school, and we think that it is marginally more expensive for my son's school clothing needs.</p><p>When I went to high school in the 80s…</p>
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				<title>Josh Petyt</title>
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						<p>1. No there shouldn’t.<br />2. Yes, if you must have a uniform it should be gender neutral.</p><p>Here in Japan the kids tend to like their uniforms. I was quite surprised when I first heard the girls saying their uniform (that I thought was hideous) was cute. In fact at…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>It’s not about gang colours</q></p><p>That justification came from a teacher, that they wouldn't be able to stop the kids fighting over gang colours if they weren't made to wear a uniform.</p>
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				<title>Vivid</title>
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						I realise the figure of 1.2% comes from the report. but it does seem to be too high by an order of magnitude. A <a href="http://www.jaimieveale.com/publications/prevalence.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2008 study</a> of New Zealand Passport holders has a figure of 1:6,364 and that figure is said to seem high.
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>Certainly there are warm clothes that aren’t part of a uniform. It’s just that without a uniform, children may not have warm clothes, or may not wear warm clothes, even on the days they need them.</p><p>My children have been to schools with uniforms, and without. I went to a…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Gender neutral uniforms....hell yes.</p><p>Weather appropriate, easy wash and dry,  non-iron,  hard wearing and reasonably priced.  Not only convenient,  but avoids the stress of Young Person's angst if they do not own the latest 'must have' fashion garment.</p><p>Believe me,  this is a huge issue in some schools.</p><p>Looking at…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I have a whole other reason for supporting school uniforms that include trousers.</q></p><p>If only they made warm clothes that weren't part of a uniform ... oh wait.</p><p>As for angsting about "what to wear" &ndash; yeah some days it happened &ndash; sort like real life that we all have…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>OK, I fully accept that YMMV on the convenience front.</p><p>I am quite serious about the warmth issue though.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>It was just really, really convenient.</q></p><p>My kids went to non-uniform high schools, and that was way more convenient. I didn't have to worry about having uniform clean and dry in the mornings, and they just got dressed, like they did every other day.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Wow that document reads like it was written by thoughtful, intelligent, experienced educators who consulted widely before coming up with the policy!</p><p>Oh and I went to Green Bay High School when it was uniform-free. None of the claims made about lack of uniforms in schools were apparent to me…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						It's not about gang colours. It was just really, really convenient. No "I've got nothing to wear" in the morning. No confusion over which clothing item was going to need to be clean the next day. And no (or not much) "I'm not wearing <em>those</em> shoes/other clothing item of uncool…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Don’t see why kids need uniforms. Most European countries, they don’t. We didn’t in my sixth form, and the world didn’t fall in because a few kids went to school fully goffed, punked or metalled up. </p><p>It’s all about indoctrinating kids into subordination for the sake of it.</p><p>(The only…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						My children wore a uniform at primary school in the UK. The good thing about the uniforms was that they were the same design everywhere, within a range of about 7 “colourways” (light blue, royal blue, dark blue, green, purple, yellow, red; and black or grey). Schools could do their…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Those are staff, yeah.
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				<title>steve black</title>
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						Don't I see two people in that photo who are out of uniform? I've always felt that if uniforms are good for the students (for whatever the reasons they come up with) then the same uniforms should also be good for the staff, volunteers, principal, etc.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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