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				<title>Mel Jo</title>
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						Thank you very much for your answer.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:58:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>braykz eleo</title>
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						<p>Hi Mel Jo,</p><p>If you wanna contact Gordon Toi Hatfield then send him an e-mail: manamoko@gmail. He's currently in the Netherlands. To get him to do his art for and with you means you will have to be prepared to wait in line and be patient. So signing up early…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:56:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mel Jo</title>
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						<p><q>My artist (Tim Worrall) was unavailable, so I contacted Gordon Toi Hatfield and arranged an appointment, no waiting list.</q></p><p>I know I'm a bit late for that topic (and please forgive my mistakes in English, I'm not a native speaker). But I'm soon going to New Zealand and I'd like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:07:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>Jack &ndash;</p><blockquote><p>It's more commonly just used to refer to a greasy mark on the inside of your right calf  ... though I've seen a few inked on permanently as well.</p></blockquote><p>That is why I went for a 1970s Raleigh chainwheel on my right ankle... an 'in' cycling joke, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:28:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>I've not had a chance to follow this discussion too closely, so apologies if this its already covered, but can I ask two questions of anyone inclined to advise?</p><p>Firstly, do you know of any good artists in Sydney that you'd trust to do a pohutukawa design? </p><p>Secondly, who'd you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:03:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<blockquote> Another option for cheapskates and masochists: I have heard the the term "chainring tattoo" used to refer to a particular kind of cycling injury, where little dots of scar tissue are left after your leg impacts the chainwheel teeth. Sometimes embedded grease or oil make a trail of permanent black…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:00:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have heard the the term "chainring tattoo" used to refer to a particular kind of cycling injury, where little dots of scar tissue are left after your leg impacts the chainwheel teeth...</p></blockquote><p>It's more commonly just used to refer to a greasy mark on the inside of your right…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:37:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Another option for cheapskates and masochists: I have heard the the term "chainring  tattoo" used to refer to a particular kind of cycling injury, where little dots of scar tissue are left after your leg impacts the chainwheel teeth. Sometimes embedded grease or oil make a trail of permanent black…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:48:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>Roger &ndash; love that page, you may notice that my avatar is a clipped piece of the Sturmey Archer sprocket.  That page seems to have inspired a couple of other cyclists to get similar tats;  see this <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/93537824@N00/369134673/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sturmey Archer arm piece</a> or this <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/93537824@N00/1028523907/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">variant on the Rudge</a>.  </p><p>A plethora of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:24:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Newsprint</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BSOD This is Drunken Llama just after he got it done.</p></blockquote><p>Another way in which macs have more style &mdash; a small grey folder with the question mark of death would look much better!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:19:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Heh. I love "stet". :)
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:04:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/28/man-gets-bsod-message-tattooed-on-his-arm/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> BSOD</a> This is Drunken Llama just after he got it done. He popped into the local to show us and quickly downed a Galbraiths Bitter and Twisted or was it a Resurrection? :)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:57:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... and "cf" on your penis.</p></blockquote><p>Or "sic". Or "stet".</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:31:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>like getting "ibid" on the other foot...</p></blockquote><p>... and "cf" on your penis.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:55:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>That should read...</p><p><a href="http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:51:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>For cyclists.....</p><p><a href="http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels//link text" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels//link text</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:03:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh and a friend  had  a microsoft blue screen of death error message tatooed up his forearm</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://modblog.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200707261209-pix1.jpg/link text" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://modblog.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200707261209-pix1.jpg/link text</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:01:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah, I did, it was lovely. Breast cancer runs rampant in the female line of my family.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, me too. I spend a reasonable amount of time thinking, as a large breasted woman, what I would do were I ever to get it.  Oh, and getting regular mammograms.<br />.<br />.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:30:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<p>I was told about someone who had "1." tattooed on one hand, and then "1. hand" on his foot. Because, right, because it's a <em>foot note</em>.</p><p>After being told of this, we then sat around thinking up similarly themed additions, like getting "ibid" on the other foot...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:27:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Did you see the documentary Titless Wonders, Emma?</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I did, it was lovely. Breast cancer runs rampant in the female line of my family. I lost a cousin to it when I was little, and both my mother and aunt have had lumps removed. The prospect has always scared…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:33:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						No tatoo stories, but observing that Sofie's phrase "a good reminder of a drunket with 2 beautiful friends" shows the new word works really well.  Bravo!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:26:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>The lizard over the mastectomy scar is very cool. </blockquote> That's fantastic. Did you see the documentary Titless Wonders, Emma? That  woman reminds me of the women that Gaylene Preston talked to, and filmed. Many, like my mum, chose not to have reconstructive surgery. They viewed their titlessness as sort of…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:12:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was informed that the central nerves area is friggin painful so Emma you may want to try the stomach.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, I gained twenty kilos when I was pregnant. Unless I'm tattooing a ploughed field, on my stomach is right out. </p><p>Though I am blown away by this <a href="http://www.dragonflyink.com/tattoo_scar.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">scar tattooing</a>.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:58:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>Oh and a friend (works in IT) had (as a departing NZ ) a microsoft blue screen of death error message tatooed up his forearm. It ended up somewhere on youtube. Hope you are out there and well Drunken Llama :)<br /> And also Phil Mattias. RIP</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:20:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>A bad tattoo is like having a shitty haircut for the rest of your life.</blockquote>  Ended up with my first one (on arm)being what I considered  not bad but badly done. So I went up to College hill and bitched to Phil Mattias. He knew the person who had done…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:56:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I watched the movie of the book Illustrated man, of which Craig referred to earlier, on 16mm, at alternative school. That Ectacrome film has richness of colour.</p></blockquote><p>Slightly less encouraging is that Zack Snyder (he of the eye-wateringly dreadful <em>300</em>) has a re-make of <em>The Illustrated Man</em> pencilled in for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:04:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>liam</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I do want something pretty on me. Don't we all?</p></blockquote><p>Well, I certainly like something pretty on me... but she doesn't have to be tattooed....</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:52:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						My best & favourite bro-in-law is a cancer survivor. He has an ongoing tattoo which incorporates Maori motifs, Celt & surfie motifs &ndash; beautiful. He's a Pakeha, and he's chosen a nice charcoal colour which looks really good on his skin. I have an ongoing poem about writing life on skin and…
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>O wow! Steven C &amp; Jack Elder &ndash; excellent collectable items for my tattoo collection...</p><p>I love 'em but wont have 'em because I change my mind far too frequently and moko is for quite a long time...</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>When people ask me how many tattoos I have, I just say "One. But it's taking a while to join all the bits up."</p><p><a href="http://news.bmezine.com/2008/04/23/no-room-for-hate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Excellent text tattoo</a> &ndash; you have to have a good look at his hands to get it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:38:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						When people ask me if I have any tattoos, I always say I have a devilwoman straddling an eight-ball on my ass (not arse). I wonder now if perhaps I should just go ahead and get it done.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had a year 10 student at the end of term 3 who had got a bit bored in Maths class, so she carved a heart in the back of her hand with her compass, then coloured it in with a ball point pen...</p></blockquote><p>We used to draw the ink…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>I'm in hour number three of my second session and this girl walks in to get a heart tattoo. It's just the outline, it's about the size of an old 50c piece, and it's on her shoulder blade.</p><p>The whole thing from needle-in to completed tattoo takes ~2mins. She gets…</p>
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				<title>Sayana</title>
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						<p>I had a year 10 student at the end of term 3 who had got a bit bored in Maths class, so she carved a heart in the back of her hand with her compass, then coloured it in with a ball point pen...</p><p>After I pointed out to her…</p>
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						<p>I'd always heard not to drink before ink 'cos you bled like a stuck pig, and that ain't good for ink retention.  </p><p>I like the idea of a text tattoo, but I'd probably want it in Latin.  The only English phrase I'd want on me is "This too shall pass",…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>And if you want two literary cautionary tales about getting tattoed by funny looking old ladies (or very pissed off ghosts), try the frame stories to Ray Bradbury's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illustrated_Man" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Illustrated Man</em></a> and Clive Barker's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Blood#The_Book_of_Blood" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Books of Blood</em></a>.</p><p>Some things you really shouldn't do while drunk...</p>
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				<title>Kim Wilson</title>
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						I got my first tattoo over 20 years ago now &ndash; looking back, it was for all the wrong reasons (to wind up my mum, to be 'cool', etc) but now see it as, similar to a previous poster, a connection to the then me &ndash; I don't feel any…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:38:00 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I asked my tattooist if it was alright to drink after and she said it was fine. But before is a huge no-no.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder why my tatooist didn't mention this when I went in, completely tanked. And yes, it did come out kinda weird.</p><p>The Who, "Tattoo" (1974):<br /><a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=U9FsgEKwVyE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=U9FsgEKwVyE</a>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:23:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Oh and remember that they shave you beforehand, but don't wax! The hair needs to have the sharp edge to poke up through the resulting scab, otherwise you'll get in ingrown hair in your tattoo.</p><p>And to juxtapose the literary tattoos, <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/science-tattoo-emporium/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Science Tattoos</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:56:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>another great bit of advice from years ago was someone telling me that you can't have booze or drugs for 24hours before and after getting tatts.</p><p>"badly effects the look of the ink".</p></blockquote><p>I asked my tattooist if it was alright to drink after and she said it was fine.…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I'd love to get a tattoo some time. And I loved the ones on that site, Kebabette. I've always liked the idea of words on my skin, as opposed to pictures.I wouldn't get one on my back either, Emma. I would be similarly inclined to want to look at it…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Why don't I have any cool tatoo stories?  Because the one occasion I even contemplated it out loud, the Better Half came back with, "A tattoo?  You can't pick a pair of shoes without a bleeding ulcer, and you still want to exchange them the next day."  </p><p>At moments like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:43:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Contrariwise is an interesting site if you are a bit literary in inclination and like tattoos.</p></blockquote><p>Ohhhh... &ndash; and I mean this in the nicest smiliest possible way &ndash; you bitch. What a great site.</p><blockquote><p>another great bit of advice from years ago was someone telling me that you can't…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Kebabette</title>
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						<p>Thanks Emma.</p><p><a href="http://www.contrariwise.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Contrariwise</a> is an interesting site if you are a bit literary in inclination and like tattoos.</p><p>I got my tattoo 10 years ago, it took a lot of pondering ... I knew the words I wanted, but how to put them on me. and where? It does take…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:02:40 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Only if you've got some really good hooch to go with that offer</p></blockquote><p>another great bit of advice from years ago was someone telling me that you can't have booze or drugs for 24hours before and after getting tatts.</p><p>"badly effects the look of the ink".</p><p>you mean, by making…</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>awww c'mon megan, don't be such a wuss.</p><p>come round at the weekend and i'll put one on with a needle and some biro ink.</p></blockquote><p>Only if you've got some really good hooch to go with that offer.</p><blockquote><p>old ten cent or new ten cent?</p></blockquote><p>Which is smaller?  Whichever one,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:45:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyone tempted?</p></blockquote><p>The best bit about that is the blank space on his left arm with what I think is the state of Texas in it? Ha.<br />"Yeah man, totally want like, zombie over my whole body. Oh yeah, and Texas".</p>
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						<blockquote><p>come round at the weekend and i'll put one on with a needle and some biro ink.</p></blockquote><p>Dude, I think you're taking this frugality thing a bit too seriously.  </p><p>Megan:  old ten cent or new ten cent?  </p><p>All of my tats were originally related to my birthdays.  Hey, it's a…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>@emma. hold off on getting more. they're highly addictive and you end up getting them for the sake of it.</p></blockquote><p>Oh go on, Che, just one more. Maybe on the other side of my chest? (I don't think, going by the amount of time I spent peering down my own…</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've wanted a star on my foot for years</p></blockquote><p>awww c'mon megan, don't be such a wuss.</p><p>come round at the weekend and i'll put one on with a needle and some biro ink.</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I want something pretty on me. I pick a place, I carefully consider the image, then I get it.</p></blockquote><p>I've wanted a star on my foot for years.  Not to mark so much a moment, but a feeling.  I'm just too much of a wuss, even though I only want…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>take your time between tatts and make them mark a moment, an event, or a watershed, not a whimsy. all of my tatts are deeply personal.</p></blockquote><p>My technique is totally different. I want something pretty on me. I pick a place, I <strong>carefully</strong> consider the image, then I get it.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But I love it, because, 17 years later, it takes me back to that moment, those days, that place and time. It's like a great song or scent.</p></blockquote><p>and that's *exactly* why i have them.</p><p>@emma. hold off on getting more. they're highly addictive and you end up getting them…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Here's one of the more inventive tattoos I've seen recently, by Dan Hazleton.</p></blockquote><p>That's really nice (apart from the ripped skin which I'm not keen on)</p><p>I suppose I should also mention local tattoo zine: <a href="http://www.thetattooedheart.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Tattooed Heart</a>. I like the <a href="http://www.thetattooedheart.net/article.asp?id=38&amp;art=109" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Top Ten Worst Celebrity Tattoos</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:42:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<a href="http://pic-tures.blogspot.com/2008/07/zombie-tattooed-man.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Anyone tempted?</a>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						It's interesting reading this from the UK where tats are still more of a working class thing. I suspect that the difference in attitudes is the Maori/Polynesian influence whereby ink can be something socially/culturally/spiritually significant rather than the nihilism often ascribed in European culture. Though the sports/music stars with various…
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						Here's one of the <a href="http://matthewbuchanan.name/post/30227165/dan-hazelton-spiderman-tattoo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">more inventive tattoos</a> I've seen recently, by Dan Hazleton. There's <a href="http://www.danhazelton.com/5peter.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">arms to match</a> too.
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						I don't have a tattoo. I'm pretty sure I want one but absolutely no idea what or where. I'm also terrified that, being a fickle creature, I'll decide I hate it a week after I get it. I might do it as a 40th birthday present to myself which gives…
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						<blockquote><p>In my experieince, non-facial (and non offensive) moko and tattoos are fully mainstream. And Aotearoa is very chilled out to them, they barely raise an eyebrow these days.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed.  I've worked in the software, finance and compliance side of things for a while, and I've never had a problem with…</p>
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						<blockquote>For all that it's only about two inches high, the top of it pretty much hurt not at all, but the very bottom &ndash; on the 'fleshier' part of my chest, was a bit stingy. I have a friend who has a pentacle in much the same place and she…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I got her to do this.</p></blockquote><p>oh, she's lovely.</p><blockquote><p>Which is interesting considering where you got it.</p></blockquote><p>For all that it's only about two inches high, the top of it pretty much hurt not at all, but the very bottom &ndash; on the 'fleshier' part of my chest, was a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Much to my surprise, the actual tattooing experience was a delight, and one I recommend enthusiastically to other people.</p></blockquote><p>Which is interesting considering where you got it. </p><p>My <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hadyn/2746102616/?rotated=1&amp;cb=1223269340945" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">first tattoo</a> (it was just the outline, the stars and colour came later) was an awful experience.</p><p>I was being filmed for a…</p>
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						<p>I got my moko three years ago when I was 36.  My cousin married an artist, so I kept it in the whanau.</p><p>My moko is large, running from shoulder-blade to wrist and took about 15 hours.  It's not visible if I'm wearing a suit, but on dressdown Friday's it's…</p>
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						"the Christchurch effect" &ndash; growing up in Dunedin I was used to the game you play when you meet someone new &ndash; basically "who do we know in common" &ndash; I guess we all thought this worked everywhere &ndash; this led to locals doing culturally embarrassing things like "oh, you…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:56:20 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>At the ripe old age of 28, I had my first done at Absolution as well (girlfriend of a good friend of mine works there.. I expect we know some of the same disreputable people ;) </p><p>I'm glad I waited until I did to get it, and I want more…</p>
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				<title>Donald  Reid</title>
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						I have a terrible tattoo. The design was poorly chosen (by my 21 year old self), the artists was inept and we were both drunk. But I love it, because, 17 years later, it takes me back to that moment, those days, that place and time. It's like a great…
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>That's odd, I've just realised that I know someone online based on their description of their tats.  That's progress for you.</p><p>I'm always a bit suspicious by any tattooist who doesn't have a waiting list.  All the tattooists I've met had at least a month's waiting list for anything bigger…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Stevenson</title>
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						I have no tattoos; had a number of ideas of what I'd like to get tattoos of over the years.  But eventually came to the conclusion that I'd grow out of any symbol I found meaningful enough to get inked into my skin. The permanent thing doesn't work for me,…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:48:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote>A good friend (let's call him Boofhead) has decided he needs/wants a tat. I'm delegated to drive him because I'm the only one not drinking at breakfast. So we go find a parlour (why are they called parlours?) and he proceeds to choose the ugliest, most moronic design in the…</blockquote>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p>I can't wait for the stories that begin with <em>"I woke up in Hong Kong/Bangkok/King's Cross..."</em></p><p>Mine doesn't; although it does begin with a hangover. Chch, late 80's, the day after the U2/BB King "Love Comes to Town" tour.</p><p>A good friend (let's call him Boofhead) has decided he needs/wants…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:13:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On a drunket to Auckland</p></blockquote><p>This is a <em>great</em> word. Consider it stolen.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:05:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						Good on you. More into symbols than the whole back tapestry thing, I have collected them as psychic bookmarks. On my first holiday around NZ, aged 21, a yin yang in Dunedin. On a drunket to Auckland (sponsored alcoholism) at 23, theatrical masks. On the second move to Wellington, 25,…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:02:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>I'll go first. Here's my tattoo <a href="http://pics.livejournal.com/ghetsuhm/pic/0000dexr/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">just after I had it done</a>, and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1447656&amp;l=9266f&amp;id=766079953" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">again</a> as it looks now, with the new skin over it and the redness and swelling you never see on telly gone. </p><p>It's the alchemical/classical astronomy symbol for mercury.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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