<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>




<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Up Front: I&#039;ll Be in My Bunk</title>
		<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/</link>
		<atom:link rel="self" href="https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/rss/" type="application/rss+xml"/>
		
		<description><![CDATA[A talking shop where we put the questions and our community illuminates the issues.]]></description>
			<language>en-us</language>
			<copyright>Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address</copyright>
			

		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227185#post227185</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227185#post227185</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Vaguely back on topic, Annie Sprinkle (OMG, Annie Sprinkle, etc) is looking for people in relationships to do <a href="https://researchsurveys.psyc.unb.ca/p11.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this survey</a> on relationship and sexual satisfaction. From the places I've seen it turning up, they may have problems getting enough men, so, y'know, it's For Science and all.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sept 2011 13:05:37 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227164#post227164</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227164#post227164</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Oh, man, that's the weekend I'm in Wellington. Anyone want to take my kids?
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 19:32:28 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227162#post227162</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227162#post227162</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>And I <3 Jayne! Man, I miss that programme.</q></p><p>This might be a good point to mention that there's a geek convention here in Chch in a couple of weeks time which includes in the programme a Firefly marathon.</p><p><a href="http://www.sancon.org.nz/events/movies.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.sancon.org.nz/events/movies.html</a></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 19:18:54 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227121#post227121</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227121#post227121</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>Well, it doesn’t say, “This is the character who gets most of the lines in every episode”, so no.</q>For the tag line for the first episode to mention unknown characters and not the established ones smacks of ignorance of the preceding series and an overwhelming shift to a US centric…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 14:06:29 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Young</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227109#post227109</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227109#post227109</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Oops- my earlier post should read Marcella Althaus-Reid. Here's a juicy link...</p><p><a href="http://www.althaus-reid.com/index1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.althaus-reid.com/index1.html</a></p><p>And a quote from the blurb on her wonderful book, Indecent Theology (!):</p><p>"All theology is sexual theology... What can sexual stories from fetishism and sadomasochism tell us about our relationship with God, Jesus and Mary? Isn't…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 13:45:14 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227106#post227106</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227106#post227106</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>And when you're in a relationship, and you have no concept of anything other than two-person relationships, and you find you have strong feelings for a third? That you can love another person and not fall out of love with your partner? The first reflex is to lie.</q></p><p>I know…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 13:34:27 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227098#post227098</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227098#post227098</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>ham and cheese</q></p><p>not together, no :)</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 13:00:20 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227094#post227094</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227094#post227094</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q> bisexual role models</q></p><p>One thing I always liked about S1 and 2 is how everybody gets partners of various genders (and in some cases, species), and the only concern to the plot is whether they are evil or not.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 12:52:10 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227082#post227082</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227082#post227082</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Wow, you watch Torchwood and don’t like Gwen, Emma?! That must be very tortuous!</q></p><p>There are Compensations. And slightly less frivolously, bisexual role models for my children? Pretty thin on the ground.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 12:13:11 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227080#post227080</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227080#post227080</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Wow, you watch Torchwood and don't like Gwen, Emma?!  That must be very tortuous!</p><p>And Sacha, you sound like you don't like ham and cheese?</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 12:07:39 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227077#post227077</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227077#post227077</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>nails down a blackboard</q></p><p>I was thinking of your fondness for her as she hammily raised her bazooka..</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 11:50:31 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227075#post227075</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227075#post227075</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>No mention of Captain Jack? says it all really.</q></p><p>Well, it doesn’t say, “This is the character who gets most of the lines in every episode”, so no.</p><p><q>I did hear Jack appears to have transitioned from Omnisexual to Just Really Gay </q></p><p>There is still, IMO, Stuff Going On with…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 11:47:12 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227072#post227072</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227072#post227072</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>it's still being written in the main by Russell T Davies </q></p><p>cheddar ahoy</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 11:41:48 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227067#post227067</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227067#post227067</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>And the majority of Espenson’s episodes feature Hot Gay Sex.</q></p><p>I did hear Jack appears to have transitioned from Omnisexual to Just Really Gay (categories other than gay or straight being just too confusing). That would be disappointing.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 11:31:04 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227057#post227057</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227057#post227057</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Can I just threadjack briefly to register my dismay at the soulless Americanisation of Torchwood last night…</q></p><p>Well, I for one, as they say...<br />I saw the tag line after watching it last night.<br /><q>Prime's hot new star studded 10 part international thriller. When a convicted felon survives execution, people…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 11:00:07 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227056#post227056</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227056#post227056</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>guys coming on to Jack’s coat</q></p><p>All that business with the coat gives me BuffyBot flashbacks.  Not that that's a bad thing. ;-)</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 10:57:46 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227053#post227053</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227053#post227053</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Did it suck?</q></p><p>I didn't think so, though there are moments (about three or four episodes in, one screamingly painful moment) where you can certainly tell that it's now being made primarily for a US audience. But it's still being written in the main by Russell T Davies and Jane…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 10:35:34 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227048#post227048</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227048#post227048</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Can I just threadjack briefly to register my dismay at the soulless Americanisation of Torchwood last night…</q></p><p>Oh noes!!  Here I was, kicking myself for missing it (and it’s not available on demand, dammit!)  Did it suck?</p><p>ETA: not that I liked where CoE went (particularly with Jack).  Started really…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 10:09:17 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227046#post227046</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227046#post227046</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><strong>re production values...</strong><br />Can I just threadjack briefly to register my dismay at the soulless Americanisation of <em>Torchwood</em> last night...</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 10:03:27 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Biobbs</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227030#post227030</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227030#post227030</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>"I'll be in my bunk." Money shot at about 32 seconds.<br /></q><br />Ahh, Firefly. Will we ever see your like again? Was there ever an aspect of the human condition for which you weren't relevant?</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sept 2011 01:51:43 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Deborah</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227021#post227021</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227021#post227021</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Interesting how just having a word for the sort of thing you are engaged in can make a difference.  It implies that the activity is real, real enough to be named.</p><p><q>It’s my view that with a greater acceptance of polyamory, monogamy would come to have more meaning, because it…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 21:06:01 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227019#post227019</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227019#post227019</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I most like doing that after a hard day's work. </q></p><p>One of the many ways in which sex is unlike beer.</p><p><q>Another thing that makes sex rather unusual is that it is illegal for minors nearly everywhere.</q></p><p>One of the ways in which sex is quite like beer.</p><p><q> the lack…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 20:43:10 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Young</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227013#post227013</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=227013#post227013</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						For a far nicer and rather more pro-sex feminist Christian 'dirty girl,' try the work of Marcia Althaus-Reid. She'd probably have the horrid Ms Renaud fleeing the room screaming in seconds...
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 19:33:04 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>BenWilson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226996#post226996</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226996#post226996</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>But then again just hanging out and soaking up the sun with a couple of buddies and a case of beer can be way cool, once you get over that Protestant Work Ethic nonsense.</q></p><p>I most like doing that <em>after</em> a hard day's work. Which is why I don't drink…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 16:55:59 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226994#post226994</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226994#post226994</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I haven’t read Sex at Dawn though, so can’t comment on that</q></p><p>It's worth it, though I had issues with the style and conclusion. It attacks a lot of the tenets of evolutionary psychology, and while it obviously opens itself up to the same criticisms about plausibility arguments, there's enough…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 16:50:37 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>BenWilson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226993#post226993</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226993#post226993</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>But sex is something that brings mutual pleasure, or should if you know what you're doing, and unlike violence or excessive lazing around, there's nothing damaging about the act itself. </q></p><p>There's nothing damaging about the act of lazing around either. But it could make me unhappy just the same, despite…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 16:50:21 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226992#post226992</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226992#post226992</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Also, I repress the urge to just laze around all the time, and force myself to work. That can have a positive net happiness outcome, at times.</q></p><p>But then again just hanging out and soaking up the sun with a couple of buddies and a case of beer can be…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 16:43:19 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226989#post226989</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226989#post226989</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>    <em>I think arguments from nature, or some imagined “natural state” are a red herring</em> ,</p><p>I agree … up to a point. I don’t want to fall into the naturalistic fallacy, but it can be important to recognise that social structures such as the nuclear family are relatively recent inventions.…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:58:24 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226988#post226988</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226988#post226988</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I just had a real deja vu moment. Have we had this conversation before? Did you get a new login? </q></p><p>Maybe :-)</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:56:30 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226987#post226987</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226987#post226987</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Repression is not guaranteed to make people unhappy. I repress, for instance, my urge to bash people I don't like. </q></p><p>I know that one shouldn't read too much into a single analogy, but I'd rather not compare sex with bashing someone. Even if they asked me to, I'm not quite…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:53:01 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226977#post226977</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226977#post226977</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I think that's actually about control of paternity: it's always the women who get punished.</q></p><p>Agreed, though unfaithful Chinese husbands <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#Ancient_China" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">didn't exactly get off scot-free</a>. I wonder whether the gender difference in apparent rates of adultery (Kinsey said 50% for men, 26% for women, though every survey is different) has…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:35:17 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>BenWilson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226966#post226966</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226966#post226966</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>I just had a real <em>deja vu</em> moment. Have we had this conversation before? Did you get a new login? </p><p>I don't disagree with any of that. Just noting that unhappiness seems just as rife amongst the polyamorous. Love is tricky. I'm pretty much just taking the same line as…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:15:26 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226959#post226959</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226959#post226959</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I think arguments from nature, or some imagined “natural state” are a red herring,</q></p><p>I agree ... up to a point. I don't want to fall into the naturalistic fallacy, but it can be important to recognise that social structures such as the nuclear family are relatively recent inventions. If…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 15:03:39 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Deborah</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226953#post226953</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226953#post226953</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>martial bliss</q></p><p>Too apt, perhaps?</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:54:50 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226952#post226952</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226952#post226952</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>so many societies have to employ penalties ranging from scarlet letters to stonings in order to enforce martial bliss</q></p><p>I think that's actually about control of paternity: it's always the women who get punished.</p><p>There is a remote part of China which has sexual freedom: a woman raises her children…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:52:53 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226948#post226948</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226948#post226948</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>Insomuch as that's true, I think it's because of a failure to distinguish between nonmonogamy and cheating, two overlapping but different things. Breaking trust in a relationship is a moral failing. Nonmonogamy is not, but you also have to be able to negotiate it, and to find people who are…</q>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:42:11 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226942#post226942</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226942#post226942</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>oops missed the edit window but wanted to add:</p><p>Bagemihl's examples aren't all pretty and nice (and I don't just mean that photo of the masturbating walrus, who at least looks like he's having a good time).  There's incest and coercion and sex with young, too.  It's not all stuff…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:27:45 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226941#post226941</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226941#post226941</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>It might be, but I haven't noticed generally higher rates of happiness amongst the non-monogamous. Some of that is down to a lot of people actually wanting commitment, which is obviously comprised in multi-amorous relationships.</q></p><p>I wouldn't want to comment on the statistical truth of generalising that statement, as I…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:21:50 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226938#post226938</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226938#post226938</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						I think arguments from nature, or some imagined “natural state” are a red herring, because a) sexual and reproductive arrangements in nature are *very* varied, and it all depends which examples you pick; and b) natural =/= necessarily good.  If we’re going to make ethical judgements I think it needs…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:08:11 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>BenWilson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226936#post226936</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226936#post226936</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>The only people who maintain a diverse love life beyond youth are crusty old free-love hippies, tacky suburban wife-swappers, and creepy, self-deluding loatharios and cougars.</q></p><p>Don't forget the widows and widowers in those dodgy free-for-all rest homes. Bless their souls.</p><p>ETA: Gah, this was to Max, not Lucy.<br />ETA2: Oh,…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 14:06:04 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226934#post226934</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226934#post226934</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>I mean, the "player" (always male) who thinks he isn't monogamous and then meets "the one" and completely reforms is a staple of the romantic comedy, and it is a refusal to accept that that experience really exists. You'll never see either him, or a "permanent" polyamorous relationship portrayed positively.</q>…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:58:18 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226931#post226931</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226931#post226931</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q> The West may have reduced social and legal sanctions against nonmonogamy during the last few generations, but it's still seen among otherwise liberal people as a moral/ethical failing or at least a character flaw. </q></p><p>Insomuch as that's true, I think it's because of a failure to distinguish between nonmonogamy and…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:35:52 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>BenWilson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226930#post226930</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226930#post226930</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>And if you believe the arguments in books like Sex at Dawn, enforced monogamy might actually be the most widespread suppression of human sexuality.</q></p><p>It might be, but I haven't noticed generally higher rates of happiness amongst the non-monogamous. Some of that is down to a lot of people actually…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:33:47 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226929#post226929</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226929#post226929</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						This is one of those pondery inconclusive things that really needs discussing over a few drinks. Because there are parellels between the LBGT experience (generalising heavily here) and the polyamorous one. I mean, the "player" (always male) who thinks he isn't monogamous and then meets "the one" and completely reforms…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:27:42 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226928#post226928</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226928#post226928</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>At work, so I won't go browsing that site, but do they bring up old Judith Reisman and her erotoxins? </q></p><p>The Ms Naughty link covers that, and boy is she hilarious.</p><p><q>Thus you end up with Judith Reisman telling the US senate that porn produces poisonous “erototoxins” that damage the…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:14:23 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226926#post226926</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226926#post226926</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>And I think that ties in with what you're saying about how that plays out in individual relationships, because people who aren't monogamous-straight-cis-vanilla are quite likely to have at least tried to have a socially conventional relationship, especially if they're older. That pressure to conform leads to other people getting…</q>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:03:46 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Josh Addison</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226925#post226925</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226925#post226925</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						At work, so I won't go browsing that site, but do they bring up old Judith Reisman and her erotoxins? I always liked that one &ndash; an attempt to medically prove that things that feel good are inherently bad for you.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 13:02:16 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226924#post226924</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226924#post226924</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>This is slightly OT but I just can’t figure out if this is for real: <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024621/Meet-exorcist-schoolgirls-spend-time-casting-demons-worldwide.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">teen demon-slayers</a>.</p><p>I mean we all love <em>Buffy</em> , but most of us don’t think it’s a documentary.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:54:58 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226922#post226922</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226922#post226922</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Dirty girls come clean</q></p><p>I've seen <em>Dirty Girls Cum</em>. </p><p>Pretty average movie.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:43:11 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226921#post226921</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226921#post226921</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>To your formulation "it's how you feel about it", I'd add "how others feel about it".</q></p><p>Yeah. Distress, the Affective Disturbance aspect, is affected by how well your own sexuality fits social expectations. Probably the clearest and least controversial example is the higher suicide rate of LGBT people. That's a…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:32:04 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226919#post226919</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226919#post226919</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>That's a really good point. I just find all this stuff so deeply depressing. So depressing I may have to go and look at some porn.</q></p><p>I've seen first-hand how much people can be screwed up by that attitude to even the most boring vanilla sort of sexual fantasy, let…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:24:36 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lilith __</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226915#post226915</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226915#post226915</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>I can’t help feeling that this sort of thing keeps going because if there’s one way to ensure that you can make everyone feel like they’re a sinner in need of saving, it’s to focus on masturbation and sexual fantasies. At some level arousal is an autonomic function; it’s like…</q>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:19:34 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tamara</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226907#post226907</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226907#post226907</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Yeah, must admit I was slightly creeped out by Sisarich's use of that expression in the NZNTM context...
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:09:26 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226904#post226904</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226904#post226904</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>My issue is that, at base, the problem is that they’ve been taught to feel guilty about their natural sexual feelings, which Renaud frequently describes as “perverse”.</q></p><p>At my most cynical, I can’t help feeling that this sort of thing keeps going because if there’s one way to ensure that…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:07:11 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Max Rose</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226903#post226903</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226903#post226903</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>The explanation for this seems awfully obvious, and possibly undermines the entire idea of sex addiction. It's not what you do, it's how you feel about it.</q></p><p>Exactly. After reading some depressingly judgemental stuff from the SST's resident (anti-)sex columnist, I ended up taking the Sex Addiction Screening Test, pretty…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:04:46 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226901#post226901</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226901#post226901</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Money shot</q></p><p>Nice NZNTM reference, maam.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:03:31 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tamara</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226900#post226900</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226900#post226900</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Also, given that her name makes her sound like a character in a romance or erotic story I am doubly disappointed in DGM.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:02:31 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Deborah</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226899#post226899</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226899#post226899</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>"I'll be in my bunk."  Money shot at about 32 seconds.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFaTjcNzZM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFaTjcNzZM</a></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 12:01:29 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226894#post226894</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226894#post226894</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>I have not much to add, though I have some thoughts I will articulate at some point. </p><p>I would however like to point out that it is testament to how much you and your friends have changed my life that not only do I understand the title of this post,…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:54:21 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>David Herkt</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226887#post226887</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226887#post226887</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Lovely piece, Emma. Sorry I'm breaking the rules around here by simple compliment with no added extra opinion, but hey, I figure I'm allowed.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:47:30 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Emma Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226885#post226885</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226885#post226885</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Watching old Glee episodes instead.</q></p><p>Watch the one with Neil Patrick Harris in it. That’ll be your September Gay Quota right there.</p><p><q>And from a strictly scientific viewpoint, Dr Joycelyn Elders was right. Sometimes the anti-PC brigade can’t handle the truth</q></p><p>One of the most distressing things in that UTNE…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:44:41 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>John Russell</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226878#post226878</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226878#post226878</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						I searched for Music of the Gays on iTunes. Doesn't exist. Very disappointed. Watching old Glee episodes instead.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:37:18 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226874#post226874</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226874#post226874</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Doesn't Poe's Law come to mind with these people?</p><p>And from a strictly scientific viewpoint, Dr <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders#Comments_on_human_sexuality_and_termination" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Joycelyn Elders was right</a>. Sometimes the anti-PC brigade can't handle the truth.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:32:09 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Public Address</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226873#post226873</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-ill-be-in-my-bunk/?p=226873#post226873</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sept 2011 11:32:09 +1200</pubDate>
			</item>
		
	</channel>
</rss>
