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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Emma; apologies for the terrible typo.  That last word should be 'tale'.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:26:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Congratulations!  I enjoyed reading that.  You've creating an oddly compelling set of images for me &ndash; making pictures in my mind &ndash; which is a little unusual for me, as I tend not to do that movie-in-my-mind thing when I'm reading.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:29:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Thanks Geoff. I guess at some point today I should get dressed and go buy a paper. It still feels quite unreal.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:17:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Emma;  A little off topic,  but congratulations for the well-deserved winning story in the Sunday Star-Times short story competition.  Just read it this morning; a  deceptively simple fake.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:41:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>And then there was the Smurfs with, what, a 100-1 gender ratio?</q><br />Plus they spend most of their time being pursued by a <a href="http://geekleagueofamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Gargamel_Sucks.gif" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">creep dressed as a paedophile priest</a> who's a dead ringer for <a href="http://www.paddedsell.co.nz/images/JA-up.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John "Kiwi/Iwi" Ansell</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:45:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>And then there was the Smurfs with, what, a 100-1 gender ratio?<br />And that only because the producers needed to have one character for half their target audience to identify with.<br />Proving it's not enough just to have a quota &mdash; but it's a start.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2015 23:48:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						This can also be seen in supposedly gender-neutral preschool TV shows, in which you get carefully curated mixed-gender groups of boys and not-too-many-girls-to-make-sexist-parents-nervous. Say, five boys and one token girl (I'm looking at you, Paw Patrol).
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:47:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>“If there's 17 percent women, the men in the group think it's 50-50,”</q></p><p>Crikey.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:11:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>As a straight white middle-aged middle-class man, I recognise the serious lack of women directors in the NZ TV industry and support all attempts to rectify this.</q><br />Ditto, but...<br />the industry has to 'survive' first...<br /><cough> JulieChristie </cough></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:46:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Bennett</title>
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						As a straight white middle-aged middle-class man, I recognise the serious lack of women directors in the NZ TV industry and support all attempts to rectify this.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:03:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						In an interesting synchronicity, the second volume of Charles Moore's biography of Margaret Thatcher is waiting for me at the library.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:17:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>We can make her an honourary bloke</q></p><p>See also: '<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/13306276-gone-girl" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">cool girl</a>'.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:42:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>“We can make her an honourary bloke”</q></p><p>“Honorary blokes” pretty much sums up any ladder-pulling IGM;FY women in power. Among the same crowd are those who think of themselves as “honorary millionaires” and “honorary whites”.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:22:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Perhaps relevant to this, Variety’s new television writer Maureen Ryan has done <a href="http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/diversity-directors-tv-amc-fx-hbo-netflix-showtime-1201633122/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a depressingly excellent (but avoid the comments at all costs) feature on American TV’s gaping diversity deficit for directors</a>, with links to a lot of the interviews she did for the piece. </p><p>Particularly interesting is [[http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/empire-showrunner-ilene-chaiken-tv-diversity-1201634418/|this Q&amp;A with <em>Empire</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:37:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>Can one argue for Being Anything You Want</q></p><p>Except that currently if you have a vagina, or identify as female, you <em>can't</em> be anything you want. Hence the quota, which seeks to counteract myriad forms of gender-discrimination by holding a proportionate number of places for women. Yes, it's rather a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:34:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<p><q>the constructivists [...] Can one argue for Being Anything You Want, and at the same time expect prescribed proportions of Each Kind of Thing? I guess so.</q></p><p>Being one of two things is further along the road to being one of many things than being sub of one thing. But…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:14:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						Oh, and don't get me started on Dale Spender. I still see that, repeatedly, every single day. All the time.
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p><q>unless you believe that there’s something about men that makes them inherently better at politics than women</q></p><p>LOL. And after the last 48 hours, I needed that.</p><p>Seriously though, it took me about a year of Green Party membership before I was comfy with it. But it's not just the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:36:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						I know it's been mentioned before, but the quota for Maori MPs didn't seem to bring about the downfall of civilisation. The main downside to quotas I can see is that if we had quotas for idiots they'd fill up really fast and some existing MPs would miss out.
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>I wrote about quotas myself a few years ago, when various people were having attacks of the vapours over the thought that a little gender equality might be in order.  I reached the same conclusion as Emma, via a slightly different route.</p><p>Here's the somewhat tame version I wrote for…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p><a href="http://inthesetimes.com/article/16157/our_feminized_society" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Our feminized society</a></p><p><q>Geena Davis Institute for Gender In Media found that, in crowd scenes, women tend to comprise about 17 percent of any given crowd. She's argued, based on outside data and her own interpretations, that this imbalance relates to and reinforces the way men perceive the actual number…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:33:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						I'm struggling to find the exact quote (though I'm pretty sure it was in an interview with Geena Davis) but there's research that indicates that, when we look at a crowd, we think there is gender balance when there are way less than 50% women. If our mental picture of…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:20:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>When Sydney Morning Herald columns are syndicated here, it feels like a time warp.</q></p><p>I remember that, back when it was better put together than the free community newspaper put out by our local real estate agents. It scares me that Key has brought NZ parliament down to a level…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:16:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Um, I might have been a little provocative, but I was not trolling.</q></p><p>No, you weren't. You will be strongly and ably disagreed with, but I accept that you're saying what you say in good faith.</p><p>Just watch the "provocative" doesn't get away on you :-)</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						When Sydney Morning Herald columns are syndicated here, it feels like a time warp.
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<p><q>It’s about having enough women to provide a representation of the diversity of women.</q></p><p>Brilliant. Hopefully less men might also lead to a better representation of the diversity of men.  A little leeway for <a href="https://www.passports.govt.nz/Transgender-applicants" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">X</a> wouldn’t hurt.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:51:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						Living in Oz at the time I loved it when NZ had 5 women in the top jobs, because Australia was still trying to come to terms with a woman leading a minor party. Obviously the world ended and Australia fell into a fiery pit of doom as a result.…
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I too am worried that I might not become a Cabinet Minister because some grasping women who is more qualified than I am displaces me.</q></p><p>It could be worse, what if she was also more competent?</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><q>If you argue that women should be quota-ed into parliament on the basis of their communication skills and empathy, then you're suggesting a meritocracy, rather than a quota to balance representation of viewpoints.</q></p><p>I too am worried that I might not become a Cabinet Minister because some grasping women who…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>To address you in good faith.</p><p>Here's the thing. Without a quota we've ended up with a male dominated cabinet and parliament where an alarming number of important jobs are being handed to white males of dubious talent.</p><p>By contrast Canada has while implementing a quota actually got talent in…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>As my very bright and mathematically talented wife was once told by her male teacher<br />"We can make her an honourary bloke"</p>
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				<title>despud</title>
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						<p>Um, I might have been a little provocative, but I was not trolling. </p><p>I don't think you've adequately established why gender should be a basis for quotas. We have a geographic quota, which is dumb, but historically made sense due to the past costs of transportation and communications. One impact…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><q>Would there be a men’s quota as well as a women’s quota?</q></p><p>The way the Green Party does it is that you can't go over a maximum of 60% for either gender.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:04:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Your logic is formidable. Are you <em>sure</em> you're a girl?</p><p>;-)</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Men are less likely to go to the doctor. They're more likely to die from homicide and suicide. They're more violent. They drink more. Why? Because taking care of yourself, physically and emotionally, is seen as girly.</q></p><p>Also because the skills to manage taking care of ourselves are not evenly…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>thinking that some of those men are there because they’re men, not because of merit.</q></p><p>This, especially seeing this week's nasty immaturity.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>That's how it functions, both in the Green Party, and Trudeau's cabinet. It's not 'there must be at least X% of women', it's 'there must be at least X% of women, and of men'.</q></p><p>Which the over-excitable "oy noes, the end of meritocracy" Canadian punditry tended to forget.  It wasn't…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Well said Emma</p><p>At least we got 3 posts before we got trolled.</p><p>I'd just point out another factor in the recent Canadian cabinet, almost every position is filled by an actual expert in that field. Strange that even with the huge limitation (not) of choosing half women, the roles…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p><q>If women feel strongly enough that the male-dominated parties don’t represent their views, then start a Women’s Party. </q>*snore*<br />You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the reason to argue for gender quotas is so that women's "views" are represented. That's not it at all. Women make up…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Would there be a men’s quota as well as a women’s quota? </q></p><p>That's how it functions, both in the Green Party, and Trudeau's cabinet. It's not 'there must be at least X% of women', it's 'there must be at least X% of women, and of men'.</p><p><q>I sometimes argue that…</q></p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>There was a fairly recent time when the top 5 or so positions in NZ politics were all held by women.</q></p><p>We can expect that every post might be filled by a woman about 50% of the time. That is what gender equality means.</p>
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						<p>Two thoughts:</p><p>Firstly, our partitioning for MPs is partially geographic, and partly issues based. If women feel strongly enough that the male-dominated parties don’t represent their views, then start a Women’s Party. <br />Ditch the electorate seats entirely, as the intertubes has demolished distance, throw out the threshold, and we might…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>The concern-trolling argument is that if we had quotas for women, people would think that women hadn’t achieved their positions through merit, but only to fill the quota.</q></p><p>As I snark-tweeted at the time, I'm sure the fifteen women with ministerial warrants in Canada were appointed entirely on merit.  The…</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>Even if men were somehow better leaders (being confident and decisive where women are shrill and pushy)</q></p><p>I see what you did there...</p>
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						<p>Great post. </p><p>Back in the 1990s I heard Marilyn Waring give a public lecture on why Parliament should have a gender quota: otherwise it wasn’t representative democracy. She was seeking to have the matter examined under Human Rights legislation. Unfortunately I can’t find an online reference to which piece of…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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