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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p>Yes, you are right, of course. Most of those haven't been issues for me.  A good friend recently revealed how she'd had to leave home at 17 and hasn't been spoken to by her Dad since cos he can't handle his daughter being gay.  She's a strong woman.</p><p>Take care,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:50:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>OK, I admit it. I'm a heterosexual male who values monogamy. Statistically, I would guess I'm one of the privileged, although it doesn't always feel like that.</q></p><p>Euan, I don't want to come down on your arse too hard (so to speak) but I suspect that might be because you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:37:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						OK, I admit it.  I'm a heterosexual male who values monogamy. Statistically, I would guess I'm one of the privileged, although it doesn't always feel like that.  All I'd ask from a potential lover is honesty so that we don't get our wires crossed after commitments have been made or…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:44:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Harrismint</title>
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						Indeed, re Stephen's point. And that *could* depend on the resident re nzlemming's point...
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						I think it's the taking of photos that annoys the residents ;-)
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:31:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Ah, tourism. Really, I think it's just common sense that if you are considering emigrating, you should visit first.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:36:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Harrismint</title>
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						Kia ora tutti
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:24:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						kia ora
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:11:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Harrismint</title>
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						<p><q>being back at high school with the same old “cool kids” bullshit in a different box.</q></p><p>That is what it feels like from my 'side' too. Whatever that is. Added to the feeling like a traitor because I'm seeing a chap (to lesbian friends), a tourist when I've  shown any…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:58:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>Just a possibility ;-)</p><p>Welcome, n00b!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Harrismint</title>
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						<p><q>And I have no problem with anyone being a slut. It’s a freaking spectrum after all. We can’t all cluster in one place, it’ll tip over and we’ll fall off.</q></p><p>Also a t-shirt.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Harrismint</title>
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						"may" have been over-dramatizing?????  ;-)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:38:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>teeshirt</q></p><p><a href="http://punkoryan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/rj_curling_061209_30.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">At the very least</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:51:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Captain of the Canadian Women's Curling Team</q></p><p>teeshirt</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:37:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>that's something bi people and poly people and asexual people have in common: you can tell someone the plain truth about who you are and how you feel, and they won't believe you </q></p><p>I get this a lot. Not just on sexuality. Most people operate on the basis that everyone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:35:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>So, what've you got against the hair-colours black, grey or white?</q></p><p>I include black hair in the general category "brunette", and my longest relationship was with someone with grey/white hair, though usually dyed blonde.</p><p>On reflection, one hot auburn would go a long, long way.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:35:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>if you're attracted to both sexes, then you'll be incapable of monogamy because you need one of each, right?</q></p><p>I did have someone, very genuinely and earnestly, ask me this: if, being bisexual and in a relationship with a man, I missed having sex with women. Because that's different, right?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:29:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>women of all hair colours, I need to have one blonde, one redhead and one brunette, right?</q><br />So, what've you got against the hair-colours black, grey or white? 8>)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:09:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>Hair colour, for instance, seems to be more important to me than gender presentation. I have a strong male and female "type" and they're both brunette.</q></p><p>Which reminds me of another stereotype of bisexuals: that if you're attracted to both sexes, then you'll be incapable of monogamy because you need…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:41:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>I've known some bisexual people who say the same, that they're attracted to the whole person rather than to physical attributes, and if they fall in love then the gender of the beloved doesn't matter.</q></p><p>The <strong>gender</strong> of the person doesn't matter much to me. But that doesn't mean physical…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:09:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q> Like her, it's about the person, not the peripherals.</q></p><p>I wonder about that. I've known some bisexual people who say the same, that they're attracted to the whole person rather than to physical attributes, and if they fall in love then the gender of the beloved doesn't matter. But might…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:02:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Excellent idea!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:00:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Hey Phil. I think that's something bi people and poly people (and asexual people too) have in common: you can tell someone the plain truth about who you are and how you feel, and they won't believe you. You're going through a phase. One day you'll meet The Right Person,…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:56:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>just in time to be accused of being a BUG.</q></p><p>That's not a BUG, it's a feature.</p>
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				<title>Phil fryer</title>
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						<p>Thanks Emily,Ive folowed all the leads, &amp; I feel most western cultures &amp; NZ its clear just being "different' stigmitises one ! <br />From the age of 16 i have always enjoyed multiple concurrent lovers, perhaps its libido,but I just really enjoy different minds &amp; bodies, &amp;  I have been unwilling/unable<br />to remain exclusive, apart…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>“Passing” is another thing I’m oddly reluctant to talk about. Because just being able to pass is a form of privilege, right? </q></p><p>Yes it is, but so is being the self-appointed bouncer deciding who is is allowed into the fabulous GLBT club.  Having spent way too much of my life…</p>
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				<title>Gee</title>
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						<q>Being able to pass, of course, is what makes us the ninjas of the Gay Agenda. I've had bigots be all bigotty at me at the school gate because I was there picking up my kids and appeared to be in a straight relationship, and I could say, "Oh, really?…</q>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>Absolutely. So much damage has been done to people by this stupid quasi-religious reluctance to talk about sex and to revile those who do. It one of the things that really makes me angry and a significant factor in why I gave up on religion in my teens.</q></p><p>Me too.…</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						To be fair, in my early thirties, just about given up on romance, directing my first full length play &ndash; I <em>may</em> have been over-dramatizing *just* a little...
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						who cares what it's called &ndash; if only it were a more attractive characteristic. :)
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Heh, wife thought I was gay when she first met me.</q></p><p>Ha, so that's like, what, reverse passing? Undertaking?</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Heh, wife thought I was gay when she first met me.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>I rather suspect that us asexuals are a necessary part of the continuum then. 8>)</q></p><p>Absolutely. All we outliers benefit from acknowledgement of other outliers, right? (Also, morez 4 me LOL.)</p><p><q>And the lost earning potential?! Makes me think twice about whether to be open in job applications in the…</q></p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>I rather suspect that us asexuals are a necessary part of the continuum then. 8>)</q></p><p>Absolutely. So much damage has been done to people by this stupid quasi-religious reluctance to talk about sex and to revile those who do. It one of the things that really makes me angry and…</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>ETA And I have no problem with anyone being a slut. It’s a freaking spectrum after all. We can’t all cluster in one place, it’ll tip over and we’ll fall off.</q></p><p>I rather suspect that us asexuals are a necessary part of the continuum then. 8>)<br />(I knew what I…</p>
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				<title>Gee</title>
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						<p><q>Like her, it's about the person, not the peripherals.</q><br />Exactly. <br />     This was a great post Emma, and the article itself was pretty spot on. I've never heard other bis talk about the 'feeling like a traitor' thing, so it was kind of a breakthrough to hear it said out loud.…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<q> I’d also argue that the stereotypes of bisexuals are damaging in and of themselves. We’re promiscuous, heartless, self-absorbed exhibitionists lacking in empathy and compassion. We’re sluts. We’re “over-sexed” – a phrase deliciously packed with social conditioning. We are, in short, the women of least value. If you’re the kind of…</q>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>It took a while for me to understand my sexuality.</q></p><p>I was having this conversation with my civil union partner just a couple of days ago, and he was gob-smacked that it took me so long to work it out. Because I appear to have my shit fairly together, right?…</p>
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						That's a great article. And a good post by you. It took a while for me to understand my sexuality. Some gay friends were convinced I was gay, but I knew boobs still featured highly on my radar. Like Emily, I'm a serial monogamist (20 years with the same partner…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:52:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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