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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>... a $25,000 fine for providing false information.</q></p><p>Wish this applied to cabinet ministers as well.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:03:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/brian-tamaki-probably-cant-claim-rainbow-youth-donations-tax-back—expert-2016112112" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">We have an answer</a>. The answer is no, Tamaki CANNOT claim a rebate on people’s donations to Rainbow Youth. Have at it.</p><p>Also</p><p>"IRD says it can't comment on specific cases, but anyone who knowingly makes a claim for tax credit they haven't made is liable for a $25,000 fine…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:49:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>Just letting u knw. if u do this. Brian will get a 3rd of that money back. in tax return. so go ahead. make a donation towards us. Thk u</q></p><p>FTW?</p><p><q>Timothy 6:9-10 But people who long to be rich soon begin to do all kinds of wrong things to…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:58:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p>Mrs Bishop Bling seems to believe that <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11751309" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">they’ll get the tax refunds</a>. </p><p><q>Just letting u knw. if u do this. Brian will get a 3rd of that money back. in tax return. so go ahead. make a donation towards us. Thk u</q></p><p>False profits have no shame.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:14:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Before you consider donating to Rainbow Youth under Tamaki’s name and email address, please note that they will get a partial refund on your donation under the tax-exemption laws.</q></p><p>I have heard many, many conflicting things about this. Someone I generally trust to Know Their Shit (but who is not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:06:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>oga</title>
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						Before you consider donating to Rainbow Youth under Tamaki's name and email address, please note that they will get a partial refund on your donation under the tax-exemption laws.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 05:46:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>‘The Message’ down there…</q></p><p>Oh my fucking giddy Aunt Fanny.....the chutzpah  of the .....thing...</p><p><q>Mission Statement<br />You have a voice, a viewpoint, an insight that is important and distinct.</p><p>Our mission is to deliver the clearest, most articulate and most effective representation of your unique voice.</p><p>We are your ally…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:27:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						Steve Braunias: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11750692" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Secret Diary of Brian Tamaki</a>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:24:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>If this God burk goes around killing baby seals isn’t he/she/it criminally liable for harming protected animals?</q><br />Uplifting stuff is fine but there has been a lot of disempauament on the coast as well...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 09:30:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Y’all really should read the exchange between Laws and the mother of a boy with Down’s….makes Tamaki’s little rant seem trivial.</q><br />And now he (Laws) is on the Central Otago Regional Council…<br />But he must know a lot about medicine though, right? As he even uses the caduceus in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 09:26:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kiwiiano</title>
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						If this God burk goes around killing baby seals isn't he/she/it criminally liable for harming protected animals? In fact the shearwater chicks are an endangered species! Can we ping the brylcreamed bishop for association with criminals?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 08:45:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						You know the removal of church's tax exemption is just the sort of natural disaster that Tamaki woiuld blame on the gays ....
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 23:30:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Thomas Lumley</title>
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						Also, however annoying Ken Ring's lunar lunacy is, he at least <strong>tries</strong> to warn people when he thinks there are going to be earthquakes.  Brian Tamaki claims to have known Christchurch was at higher risk than anyone else thought, but didn't use this knowledge to try to help people. Assuming…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:16:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Thomas Lumley</title>
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						It might be useful to have some non-hateful openly-Christian bloggers to suggest to  anyone who’s in danger of taking Tamaki seriously (ie, seriously believing him, not seriously worrying about him).   I’d recommend Fred Clark at <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slacktivist</a>. He was brought up American white evangelical and is still Baptist; he posts most…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:03:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>I want to say something intelligent but all that comes to mind is what a monstrous piece of scum that guy is.</p><p>Of course we should tax churches, in this society where the majority of people have no religion and the remainder is spread over a multitude of religions there…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:46:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Bishop Tamaki blames gay people for the earthquakes,  Michael Laws <a href="https://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/tag/michael-laws/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> calls the parent of a child with a disability a 'monstrous zealot'</a> for not doing the 'decent' thing and aborting her child.</p><p>Y'all really should read the exchange between Laws and the mother of a boy with Down's....makes Tamaki's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:32:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shaun Scott</title>
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						<p><q> Also, I’m not saying this is something you should do, but apparently people are donating to Rainbow Youth in Brian Tamaki’s name, using the publicly-available <span id="x-protectfilter-1"></span><script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/if (document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1') != null) { document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').innerHTML=function(e){var r='';for(var i=150;i>=0;i-=2){r+=e.charAt(i);}return r;}('\u003euaH/g\u003czz2nj.yg3r\"o1.bhUc5rvuYhocTyFnyittospexd4@rejcwiAfcfvoH\u003e\u003e\"azfnV.8gSrYoj.5hPc0rmuDh6cRyAnXi0trsweudt@\u003ceTcriafKf8od:BomtylgiIaWm9\"2=Tfce@rWhs Yav\u003cV'); document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').removeAttribute('id'); }/*]]>*/</script> email address. That’s a thing that’s happening. Just saying. </q></p><p>Not that I'm saying that I have just done this, but it is a very…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:33:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Yeah, this is exactly how I feel. To get religious-based tax-exempt status you MUST proselytise, and I cannot see any justification for that. Do actual charity work, like Presbyterian Support Services or the Anglican City Mission, go for it. If you don't, fuck right off.</q></p><p>Indeed &ndash; though I'd like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:02:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						How cereal manufacture advances religious purposes, I'll never know. Yet Sanitarium is tax-exempt. #grrr
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:11:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>And yes, place a church’s charitable status on a par with any other business. They can still offset their CHARITABLE activities; everything else, hello tax auditor.</q></p><p>Yeah, this is exactly how I feel. To get religious-based tax-exempt status you MUST proselytise, and I cannot see any justification for that. Do…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:38:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>I took direct action and went onto the Density FB page and posted this in the comments:</p><p><q>Why can't you simply blame Rūaumoko for the earthquakes ?</q></p><p>It's been removed now, for some reason.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:35:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						If Mr Tamaki's god is so powerful, why didn't he pop up a volcano in the middle of Auckland, where most of us licentious (hah, I don't have a Merc, much less a fleet of them) queers live. Why did he make an MoD building rocky in its foundations, but…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:34:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:34:00 +1300</pubDate>
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