I say hurrah to that. And the weeding of beetroot. Because you just can't beat beetroot relish.

The same ilk who yelled sexist remarks at Anna Faris earlier this year when she was filming the Yogi Bear movie. They seem…

Agreed! And can I lament the shortage of umbrellas in my part of town at present?

Love it!

The definition of Strike Breaker may just be the most fabulous sentence in the history of the English language.

I also love your flapper pictures in the masthead. A friend just sent…

Yeah, this is just drive-by trolling. it's pretty easy to deal with. You get more of it on feminist sites because they're easy to identify as targets. It's not just feminist sites that get it though, it's anyone down the…

Feminist forums always get that. Brick and mortar ones, digital ones – it's no different. There will always be people who feel threatened by the simple fact that they exist.

It's not a site I'm ever going to visit, or otherwise comment on but – really excellent it's out there. So: why do thug spoilers…

Ugh.

One was just "sluts". The other was:

I hope they all get gang raped in the ass.

Apart from the known PAS troll, what did the others look like?

And depressing — perhaps I'm just getting old, but I remember when trolls made a fucking effort. "Oi, slutz U just need a gud root"…

Ho-kay. As long as it doesn't die of neglect....

That'd be WordPress, I think. It loves you and wants you to have your very own WordPress site, no…

So, um, yay.

The Stroppery is a sort of natural extension and marriage of Tits Out For Ourselves, and the Wellington Feminazi Boner-Killer drinks. It just seemed to make sense to assemble people who were all doing the same kind of stuff…

Take a look: The Stroppery: tea, crumpets and fucking the patriarchy

Sometimes they start out that way

So while we're on the subject...
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Now there's a useful custom #hic

What amuses me about that is that on Balloon Juice, "+n" indicates the number of drinks you've had before posting your response.

It actually works on multiple levels in that case.

Your +1’s are stored in a new tab on your Google profile. You can show your +1’s tab to the world, or keep it private and just use it to personally manage the ever-expanding record of things you love around the web... Regardless of whether you chose…

Since when does "+1" mean "you should check this out"?

Quick, copyright it.

Lately we seem to have developed an informal "+1" custom.

Which just happens to be exactly what Google are calling their new equivalent of Facebook's Like button/data-harvesting service.

I stand firmly corrected.

*snigger*

It's Friday, right?

Evolves, Bart. E-volves.

I stand firmly corrected.

????

(And right now is where I leave, having expended my daily “smutty and inappropriate comment” quota on one comment.)

I'm hardly gonna argue with that.

D-rate '70's Funk Star.

I got a thing. A More Tremendous thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOoKgK09fCE&feature=related

'The More Tremendous' sounds like the name of a D-rate '70's Funk Star.

I am tempted to adopt it as a pseudonym

At everything. That's right. Everything.

The Best _ ?

Evolves, Bart. E-volves.

And that's because my commenters are The Best.

I was thinking of 'MORE tremendous dicks', but that works.

ETA: No I wasn't. Really I wasn't. Oh crap, never mind.

A trend perhaps Emma? Just sayin'

I think we already established what was involved in a tremendous dick competition. Anything less is bluff and bluster.

Well, we could agree to disagree MORE, but MORE in the spirit of the thread, we could also argue MORE heatedly about this until we both look MORE like tremendous dicks to everyone else :)

Okay, yeah, I've been sitting here for the last couple of minutes throwing 'more' into the sentence at random to find the sweet-spot for maximum lols. I think it's "hyphenated to dicks".

Where should we put the 'more'? Eggnuine question.

Did you leave a 'more' out of that sentence?

embrace the intrigue

Or we could just skip that part and have everyone think you are tremendous dicks for five minutes.

Would save time for everyone really :P.

You left a “more” out of that sentence…

:-p

ETA I think you left a "more" out of that…

It is, indeed. I just did that "oooh, mystery" wiggly thing with my fingers.

There are elements of that, but it's not a full reading. His kind of crazy, at its root, is meant to be a deeply scary kind, that his entire mission on the day is actually to kill his…

Oh, I think we've pretty well established that when you ask someone if they were offensive deliberately, and they continue to post but don't respond, they meant it.

Whoops! That was nearly me a week or so ago. Dreamer......

Pfui. Our one-armed men have no arms at all.

LOL

I keep thinking back to the post-september-quake PAS gathering/commiserbration, and that table full of families, who gave us very filthy looks.

Or even, "hey, if I get you right here, I'm a bit offended by that". That's good too.

The only…

Separately? I think a handful of times. Together? Never.

Or even, "hey, if I get you right here, I'm a bit offended by that". That's good too.

And that has stopped us…exactly when? No, I mean it, name a time being inappropriate has stopped either of us doing something.

I am not nearly so painstaking (I wonder if any of them have noticed?) to avoid any hint of a…

Pfui. Our one-armed men have no arms at all.

One of the drawbacks of not being face to face is that it's harder to tell. A smile or a wink when something's said face-to-face are clues – so I find those little marks people make on the blogs quite useful.

I have to…

That's my memory of it too. And if it weren't for the new file-sharing bill, I could probably download it and report back in 30 minutes.

Hey, if anyone's coming out... Wait. That's inappropriate.

I have to say, the RPAP has helped me with a number of things. As to whether any of those things were positive, that's another question.

But yeah, the meeting of people, the…

What tosh. Hardly got into first gear.

Now I don't know if there's a prize or you get banned for posting Supertramp, but after reading your post, this…

you went and saw it with that Damien O'Connor chap, didn't you? :)

And (I’m going to shut up really soon now) if it’s within your social, financial and geographical abilities, turn up to shit in real…

+1

Secondly, a mere six pages later, Sacha's question:

A strong community can deal with something like lil p's latest foray because it has the resilience.

True. How do we nurture that?

Now, I apologise…

People assume I'm an immigrant when it would be more accurate to say that I'm a fugitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ImZTwYwCug

Not really. There's some Hispanic gangsters and a Korean shopkeeper...that's about it. I don't think it especially glorifies…

Sorry Bart, but I really don't believe you.

The worst bit about it is that the ending's a full-on cop-out: It's not the fault of the system that he went crazy – he was mentally ill all along!

But who could forget 'St Elmo's Fire'?

It'd be kind of interesting to watch 'Falling Down' again to see how it's dated. I suspect – from my hazy ~20 year old memories of it – that it's…

available as an e-book* formatted for digital use

*Ecology book on a perforated porous-paper roll

That was pretty much the thrust of my argument, yeah. He basically ignored me everytime I did so and referred only to the fact that "Falling Down" was…

I wonder too when he suddenly become the TV expert on everything: teenagers, murderers, life....

But apart from that, what a bloody miserable story. No winners there, at all.

Sigh, I've tried and I just can't "do" Latta. Something about his voice sends me spiralling into yelling at the screen very quickly.

It's usually the selfish arseholes that make that assumption, because they can't imagine anyone not wanting to be them. You often find them in politics...

**…

True,…

Aw, thanks. Glad you re-considered.

But only if we admit it. Otherwise you won't know :)

Talking about making one cry – I watched "Darklands" last night, and within a couple of minutes was weeping over a two-year-old, given away by his mother and…

God, I would love to argue that point, since all of my comments would consist of paraphrased quotes from Batman and Robin: 'Ice to read your…

And why not, pray?

It's a fair concern too, being ignored invalidates the effort spent, which might be considerable. Especially the emotional effort, for first timers. That's why I take Russell's cue in trying to be helpful to them, even if I'm not always…

Probably fairly – conversation moves fast here, and it's…

Really the only thing I think someone shouldn't do with their first comment is be really aggressively negative. Without any previous context to gentle it, that comment will be seen in…

Most of the lasting impression happens in the first few minutes. This might be part of the barrier for lurkers, the feeling that their first post could end up being how they are judged for ever?

But I'm not…

I think we should never underestimated the power of social media and group discussions to make people feel very self-conscious, even amongst the nicest of people. Sometimes this can be a good thing, as lord knows…

Sorry...

it's a survival response to assess friend and foe, isn't it?

that was fine

Global research says Kiwis are rather tolerant and social contributors.

New Zealanders are keen volunteers, kind to strangers and tolerate migrants, minorities…

Dude, too early in the day for me to be blushing. Also? If we do this? I wanna see if one of those can mind my children for me.

Hence the "oh but not you" stage, where…

I think so too. And it helps that you are your own best advertisement for this argument. You could only have been nicer had you actually been wearing a kitten on each shoulder :-)

So Bart shouldn't separate his Twitter; which'd probably lead to a renaissance in plant biology research funding, increased student numbers, and a whole new genus of pretty, witty, talking plants that look…

But this is, almost always, a group behaviour. It's the perception of others as individuals that…

Yes I agree when you get humans in groups the behaviour of the group often seems to drop to the lowest common denominator, which is also true when a group is trying to agree on a restaurant.

And…

I didn't go to university. Didn't do theses. Can't really argue to save myself. (But I'm learning, here! Hah!)

I think you do, Bart. (You like kittens too, which is a winner for me). I think you're a very nice person. And I generally behave well towards others, too. I think we (we humans) are…

That honestly cracked me up.

With some really good, well-thought-out replies and responses. And that often makes me feel very stooopid.

Will you stop? You are erudite and brilliant and a shining star, and I won’t have this putting down of yourself.

Yeah,…

No that isn’t true. Humans generally behave well socially towards…

OK. I won't call myself anything derogatory on here again, promise.

However, there are some very, very quick and clear minds who are stunning at grasping the essence of arguments, and putting forward their views by return, while people like me wander around…

Yeah I thought that too and then I discovered I can get my scientific journal tables of contents via twitter. So now I have a twitter account that alerts me to new science, on my iPad.

But I probably should two accounts so I can…

I heartily endorse this statement.

Jacqui, here’s a suggestion.

Instead of feeling all “stoopid” picture yourself as a bad-ass knowledge zombie, chowing down on a free 24-hour buffet of…

Will you stop? You are…

Well, not after he had a public bowel movement on everyone who'd allocate resources to key marginal campaigns — which Tasman-West Coast is. Chris Auchinvole has a far from impregnable majority of 971. And the last (and only) other National…

Jacqui: I know stupid — hell, I've been the spokesperson for stupid — and you're not even on the short-list. Sorry.

Having been in a similar situation some years ago, the real problem is that if you ever tweet about…

And good riddance to him. Prick voted against Civil Unions. He should have been out long ago.

Not quite what I meant, I don't think. I meant that so long as it is possible to maintain standards of common courtesy, we…

You're absolutely right, unfortunately. But in my less misanthropic moments…

On the basis of your contributions, I think of you as being very smart.

But isn't that absolutely what happens? Humans behave, often, appallingly badly towards people they have no connection with – people they don't know – whereas when they do know them, because there's a connection there's a disinclination to…

Thank you.

Sad but true. Back here we call that Kiwiblog I…

Calling somebody an idiot = completely hilarious. Gotcha. You may resume your flouncing.

Oh will you children behave?
And Danyl. When in hole stop.
Everyone makes mistakes sometimes.

Awkwardly unflouncing, just for you: I don't think it was indiscreet, just funny in a weird way that someone I don't think I've ever engaged with before tonight is crowing about 'fucking with…

which Emma insists is totally not about me, but is an expanded version of a comment she made a few days ago which is . . . about me.

Ohhhh no it isn't! (srsly, this is where we are now, right? And someone can just repost this whenever Danyl repeats…

(I'm terrible at both maths and feed-searching, so if anyone would like to do the search, and then break…

And before you had time to illustrate how your blog post indiscretion differed from Danielle's tweet indiscretion, or how exactly it did not constitute you expending too much emotional energy on Caleb d'Anvers. Such a shame!

Reading through the rest of your twitter feed it does seem to be about me, at least more so than it should be for someone who plays such a minor role in your life. But knock yourself out, I guess. Ditto for this…

I fell asleep and bumped my head halfway through that.

excellent

He was a Spaniard by the name of Ramirez by the time whatshisface met him. But I should stress these are memories harking back a quarter of a century.

I find it difficult enough to keep up with the web sites I enjoy, let alone..
I'm on twitter and I honestly don't…

Maybe she's like the Highlander. You know how Sean Connery's character already had a Spanish name on his home planet? That sort of thing.

ETA: Or maybe she inceptioned Danyl. 'We planted a simple idea: you shall call your…

Don't worry, everyone's done that. It's part of his charm

..& as for trolling or what-have-you, I think an offhand comment on a twitter feed oughtn’t be taken too seriously. I’ve said far worse things about my clients on facebook.

ETA: ah,…

What, I can't leave you guys alone for five days?

I can very definitely assure you that it isn't. Your assuming that it is is something people can draw their own conclusions from.

BETRAYAL

But not that, I really don't think. Danielle's tweets are public, or Danyl wouldn't…

Mostly my posting is limited by my…

Dear Danyl: you…

I've accepted that that's my default setting here. Mostly it's something I like, but if my ego's taken a bit of a bruising from other sources I'm…

That's an interesting approach

My feeling of stupidity is generally self-induced, right after I've hit "post", but before I've caught up with the rest of the thread.

He was an enormous arse yet he was offended by being called "from the south of a bridge"?

If it was, then for this thread as I write, that's 87 posts out of 1888 views – or about 1…

Also, the habits involved in seeking ideas that turn out not to be new are mostly the…

This wasn't a cunning plan. O'Connor won't win his seat, and in the next electorate selection he'll be challenged by a union candidate and lose. His…

Really? Because this week I saw no in depth analysis of the Labour party list, no commentary on the balance and worth of the people. Oh and I saw…