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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> as for mental illness, there’s clearly so much ground to cover.</q></p><p>I get where you are coming from. And agree. I usually choose to ignore the site WO because I find it time I will not be getting back so why upset myself. I'm thinking that when I see a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:47:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						<p>Having suffered severe depression I know that controlling one's behaviour in such situations is not so much a matter of choice, it is near impossible. </p><p>So if Cameron Slater has a mental illness that causes his outrageous comments and personal conduct, I doubt there is any simple solution.</p><p>Where "choice"…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:19:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>Pity the family member quoted in the article you linked to has few qualms about using the potential power of this manifestation of mental illness to have a bit of go at someone else…</q></p><p>Absolutely Rosemary, there are serious questions that need to be asked here regarding the support available…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 23:51:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>I was surprised how angry and shocked I was hearing such attitudes so casually expressed.</q></p><p>Yep.</p><p>Logic tells us to discount such crap for the unfounded inflammatory rubbish that it so clearly is.</p><p>But when one's reaction comes from somewhere else...is visceral...when logic yet again kicks in it's obvious that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:49:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Cameron Slater has a mental illness that causes him to attack</q></p><p>No. He chooses to be an arsehole. His mental illness issues are shared by many others who manage not to be persistently nasty towards others.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:41:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						It's sad that someone attending a lecture isn't smart enough to appreciate the actual causation of increasingly heavy human populations.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:30:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I have just been to a lecture where a male member of the audience said we should tax fat people as they cause the 'obesity problem' (rather than sugary drinks or any other action). The audience, mainly of slim academics and policy people, giggled a bit and no one called…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:53:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Who knows what lies behind the actions of this person? There isn't much anyone but him can do about any issues he has. But we can manage our own responses.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:26:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Clearer than that is that the highest levels have had absolute influence on the life and livelihood of this compromised individual. His family have yet to meaningfully intervene.</q></p><p>Pity the family member quoted in the article you linked to has few qualms about using the potential power of this manifestation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:09:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Thanks Brent, I remember those but didn't look for the links. Point is you can't trust any information sourced from the slater.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:42:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						Kim.com published some <a href="https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/500719306947059713/photo/1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">stats</a> of WO which showed some peculiarities implying that a proportion of the traffic is fake.  Also DimPost used <a href="https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/two-points-about-cameron-slater-first-who-reads-this-shit/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">referral traffic</a> to guess that WO traffic is much lower than recorded.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:49:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>Cameron Slater has a mental illness that causes him to attack, with a great deal of savagery, those who are also clearly suffering pain and disablement.</q></p><p>Exactly Rosemary, and that is why amplifying, emulating and disseminating that affected voice and advancing those page views is not in society’s best interests.He…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 04:51:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						I suppose it's possible those rankings are realistic, in which case you're right. But at a quick glance it looks as if this site uses visit numbers and page views to make the ranking. So you can, for instance,  have a single person (or perhaps a computer programme) make lots…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:13:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>ignore the bugger</q></p><p>Good point.</p><p>However...</p><p><a href="https://openparachute.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/january-16-nz-blogs-sitemeter-ranking/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openparachute.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/january-16-nz-blogs-sitemeter-ranking/</a></p><p>and what with the other rabid right site having similar popularity...</p><p>we may be in the deepest of smelly stuff.</p><p>Public opinionwise...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:21:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						in the absence of any formal damage control surely our best option here is to ignore the bugger. We are only helping him do more damage by offering his words to a wider audience.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:18:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> Yes he puts that tone out there,</q></p><p>Surely, if he wanted to deal with his issues ,first and foremost would be to stop what he's doing. And I know he would have been advised as to his ways not being conducive to any healing. He does literally make me feel…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:11:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<q>Due to the nature of mental illness, anything Cameron Slater says is subject to the influence of his illness. Yes he puts that tone out there, but at the end of the day it’s a symptom of a greater problem, he is high conflict, clearly he is dealing with a…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:32:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						Thanks for your reply Marc, that is awesome.. Anyone who lacks advocacy is in big trouble, some are very lucky to enjoy the support networks they have. That these support networks are so needed is testament to our having produced generations of school leavers lacking the confidence and/or the ability…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:18:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>God...feral,  or what?</p><p>After that,  we could all do with a cheery up tune...</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRDg9WS7fk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRDg9WS7fk</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:31:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>But, what we do know, is that Our Leader is a friend of Youknowhat....</q></p><p>Though <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11347190" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">not in his capacity as, uh, Prim Monster</a>, so nothing to see there, yeah nah?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:48:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>OOOPS!!!</p><p>Should have put a double warning on that link....</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:13:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>I now feel ill</q></p><p>Yeah,  well...sorry about that...</p><p>When I read that (the Youknowhat blog),  I had an epiphany of sorts.</p><p>His words...plus the words written by his followers...struck home.</p><p>You go out into the world with an obvious disability,  or with someone with an obvious disability and you are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:09:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Godzone’s favourite cetacean wrote,</q></p><p>This really needs a warning Rosemary, I now feel ill :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:02:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Kuha’s benefit had increased by 41 per cent because he was now receiving his full entitlement.</p><p></q><br />wish there was more detail so that others could better understand what they might be entitled to<br />It is also a case where you do wonder  at the fairness. Should he really have to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:17:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>it is a disgrace where we have ended up, a total disgrace.</q></p><p>And the story of <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&amp;objectid=11077939" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sam Kuha</a> exemplifies this perfectly.</p><p>Y'all remember Sam...59 with a significant disability who was declined a food grant from WINZ until he had seen a budget advisor...subsequent advice was that he had insufficient income from…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Well said.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:21:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						<p><em>"I applaud Emma’s sentiment, however I feel that the issues underpinning the treatment of beneficiaries are consistent with those measured out by society as a whole."</em></p><p>Actually, beneficiaries are at the very end of the stick, where the stick resembles that of a baseball bat, where it is a bit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:52:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						I'll tell you about my complicating factors. Bombed out of info-science major at university in the final year, thanks to finding the learning curve of advanced coding too steep. Subsequently went to polytech for an electrical pre-trade and instead got bumped up to electronics which went nowhere fast. The result…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:21:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>gig economy</q></p><p>No not exclusively, my last work provided full time contracts and had difficulty finding teachers willing to sign up for that. There is all sorts of work and plenty of opportunities available,  long or short term, contracted or freelance, poorly remunerated for the most part but there all…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>With regards to unemployment figures and jobs, via the internet there are numerous opportunities now available, we are no longer limited to working for companies based within the country, we no longer require full physical mobility, the job market has changed irrevocably, so referrals to those kinds of phenomena (as…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:13:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						oops, sorry Rosemary, my reply to Sofie, anyway, that’s me have a great year people!
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>We gotta start somewhere. If we can find just one Minister ( it would be nice if it was the Prime) that wants change, that person could effect change.</q></p><p>I guess that what I’m getting at here though is that regardless of any legislation that may be implemented, it’s the…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>If we can find just one Minister </q></p><p>Nevermind Dunne....what about Te Ureroa,  Pita and the matriarch Tariana?</p><p>Held/hold real potential legislative power over the Natz....and what did they do?</p><p>Well...what <strong>did</strong> they do?</p><p>Staying in the Far North (and why not:-))...the Maori Party and Hone Harawira seem to have failed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:22:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>I understand that most posters here are white collar workers and independent contractors and have little grasp of life for blue collar workers in New Zealand.</q></p><p>I have white collar potential but all my pay rises to date have been government-mandated &ndash; in other words, I've only ever been on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:05:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>, but in order to do so, we may need to widen our scope beyond a couple of ministers and a department or two and address the wider cultural and societal issues.</q></p><p>We gotta start somewhere.  If we can find just one Minister ( it would be nice if it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:59:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>WINZ is darkly classic “Catch 22” material–staff are personally rewarded for denying what their “clients” seek rather than providing it!</p><p>what was in earlier times Social Security is now a sadistic bureaucratic punishment maze</q></p><p>I think pinning this on WINZ and bureaucracy is something of an oversight. I applaud Emma’s…</p>
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						<p><q>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/cropping/72713156/oilseed-rape-goes-from-biodiesel-to-a-food-oil-crop</q></p><p>Really glad a cropping venture is doing well in Canty.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I'd be surprised if there's much canola still being grown in Canty. Dairy, dairy, dairy.</q></p><p>Here's what seems to have become of Solid Energy's Canterbury oilseed venture:<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/cropping/72713156/oilseed-rape-goes-from-biodiesel-to-a-food-oil-crop" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/cropping/72713156/oilseed-rape-goes-from-biodiesel-to-a-food-oil-crop</a></p>
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						<p><q>Solid Energy had grandiose plans before they went bust to buy up tracts of Canterbury for canola production, all the current production growth appears to be disappointingly meat-related.</q></p><p>I'd be surprised if there's much canola still being grown in Canty. Dairy, dairy, dairy.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>All happening in the Far North</q></p><p>The new fish and chip shop (and wet fish too) is the same guy who had the Coopers beach one so that should be good quality. Other than that, the Sushi bar is all good too.  I'm glad you like it Rosemary.  I try…</p>
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						<p><q>BusaboutKaitaia Timetable for Town, Pukenui and Ahipara routes.</p><p>Reasonable fares, and as an added bonus the buses run on 50% bio diesel made from refined cooking oil. Smell really yummy!</q></p><p>So I see the 7 .11am to Kaitaia returns at 5.50pm and I guess the extra on Tuesday helps but…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>These guys have their own refinery...processing used cooking oil donated by local businesses.  </p><p><a href="http://busaboutnorth.co.nz/about/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://busaboutnorth.co.nz/about/</a>  and their parent group <a href="http://www.cbec.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.cbec.co.nz/</a></p><p>And yes...Kaitaia has more eateries per metre than any town we have visited...were we takeaway junkies we'd be in seventh heaven.</p><p>All happening in the Far North!</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>...the buses run on 50% bio diesel made from refined cooking oil. Smell really yummy!</q><br />While I haven't been able to find definite figures, all the evidence seems to be that most of NZ's biodiesel is from animal sources, e.g. <a href="http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork/climatechange/biofuels/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">meat industry by-products</a>. While Solid Energy had grandiose plans before…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<q>It also strike me that whenever I read threads like this the people working at the desk at the support organisations really want to help, but it is a management structure and policy dictated from the minister down that the system either work well or do harm. It’s not the…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:58:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Let’s face it, we don’t got buses unless you count the 7am bus doing SH1 from AK to Kaitaia.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.doubtlessbay.co.nz/images/bus-about-time-table.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">BusaboutKaitaia Timetable</a> for Town,  Pukenui and Ahipara routes.</p><p>Reasonable fares,  and as an added bonus the buses run on 50% bio diesel made from refined cooking oil.  Smell really yummy!</p>
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						<p><q> (Might have to vote for Winston to ensure it is still there then, though)</q></p><p>At the moment he's trying for equality on Northland Superannuitants getting Bay of Islands ferry rides out of their gold card. Let's face it, we don't got buses unless you count the 7am bus doing SH1…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:24:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Mate…methinks the future is the now.</q><br />Tomorrow never comes...<br />:-  )<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc8JnQjSCjQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc8JnQjSCjQ</a></p>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						They have Peter Dunne and the young man from ACT. They are the votes that create the majority for most of their visionless legislation.
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>Yes and no Tom. Certainly our present system favours those with the means and the morals which permit them to manipulate the public into voting for them. Those morals then allow further obfuscation and manipulation to put in place ideologies which would otherwise be unacceptable to most New Zealanders.<br />However,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2016 22:52:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						It's all about the votes. Voting is dominated by a very wealthy party, very well off, no sweat on campaigning $.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Mate...methinks the future is the now.</q></p><p>Hey I remember that future:</p><p>__The future is now, but it's all going wrong<br />Bodies queue for nothing, but it's to nothing they belong<br />People say prayers and some work hard<br />If you give them all your money, they'll give you their hearts<br />This…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>I dread the future, </q></p><p>Mate...methinks the future is the now.</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Emma...fucking awesome and very timely post....trust your health is stable. :-)</p><p>Peter and I were chatting to an Welsh fellow in the Far North a couple of weeks ago.  He was on his way to some conference and was going to talk about workplace bullying and discrimination towards minorities...especially those…</p>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						It also should be noticed that when you leave a bunch of people work idle for 8 years you do detach them from the work society, from its 8 hour workday social practices. It’s never a good idea to run high unemployment numbers this long but in National world its…
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						<p>A reviewer of the WCA did actually recommend the UK look at New Zealand, where things seemed to be done all so much “better”, here some analysis of the WCA, it’s failures, and how New Zealand has come into the picture there:<br /><a href="https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/01/23/the-discredited-indefensible-work-capability-assessment-wca-in-the-uk-and-what-its-demise-must-mean-for-nz-welfare-reforms-part-1/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/01/23/the-discredited-indefensible-work-capability-assessment-wca-in-the-uk-and-what-its-demise-must-mean-for-nz-welfare-reforms-part-1/</a></p><p><a href="https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/the-discredited-indefensible-work-capability-assessment-wca-in-the-uk-and-what-its-demise-must-mean-for-nz-welfare-reforms-part-2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/the-discredited-indefensible-work-capability-assessment-wca-in-the-uk-and-what-its-demise-must-mean-for-nz-welfare-reforms-part-2/</a></p><p>And where is the “transparency” re…</p>
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						<p>Is this personal and very human horror to which our society subjects it's citizens really worth that tax cut?</p><p>The weird thing is most folks really aren't selfish, they will happily donate to charities and relief funds or give their old sheets to refuges. But suggest for a second that…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>I would like to say that that most (not all) of the people I have interacted with during my son’s long history with Work and Income have been very pleasant and polite. It is the crooked unrealistic system they work in which is the problem, and this comes from the…</q>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						They are losing a lot of documents these days, always ones that pertain to applications. Winz has been organised to make correspondence very sloppy in this regard, nasty Paula Bennett legacy,
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Urgh.</p><p><q>Ms Greaves made two applications for her daughter, who has acute leukaemia. The first &mdash; a child disability allowance &mdash; is paid as recognition that a child is going to need extra care. A maximum of $46.49 a week is paid out and Ms Greaves had that approved. <br />She…</q></p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>When Labour was last in, they had a thing on the reserve bank that said they had to consider the unemployment rate when trying to limit inflation, that it should sit around 2% unemployed, which it did.</p><p>When National got in, they removed that and told the reserve bank to…</p>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						The whole nastiness of modern conservatism is the idea of a uniform citizen, essentially a soft fascism. Labour parties are a vehicle for those opposed to such slow  dull civic slog and the sad faces it creates.
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						<p><q>staff are personally rewarded for denying what their “clients” seek rather than providing it!</q></p><p>This is not generally true, but I well remember when managers were appointed at regional level in ?2010 specifically to reduce Disability Allowance spending by the MSD. These managers directly harassed Doctors over certifying their patients'…</p>
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				<title>Gus</title>
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						<p>And more horrors from the UK &ndash; as I read in the <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/14/dwp-punishing-low-paid-full-time-workers-under-new-benefits-rule" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Guardian today:</a></p><p>To summarise: Work tests &ndash; for people who are working. Currently being trialled, low income workers who qualify for universal credits (in work tax credits) have to demonstrate that they are seeking to improve their…</p>
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						Exactly, just on top of that 6 % is a bubble of folk working hard jobs for fuck all pay. There is a bubble of about 15% of the workforce who through the adventures of their life story are stuck in a pool of poverty. CV’s accumulate a picture and…
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						<p><q>You can't explore this issue without noticing the high unemployment rate, how has the natural rate of unemployment become 6%, that is a disaster figure and until we get down to the sanity of a 2% unemployment figure we are fueling discontent.</q></p><p>Are there stats for how many of those…</p>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						You can't explore this issue without noticing the high unemployment rate, how has the natural rate of unemployment become 6%, that is a disaster figure and until we get down to the sanity of a 2% unemployment figure we are fueling discontent.
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				<title>Alec Morgan</title>
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						<p>well said Emma</p><p>WINZ is darkly classic “Catch 22” material–staff are personally rewarded for denying what their “clients” seek rather than providing it!</p><p>what was in earlier times Social Security is now a sadistic bureaucratic punishment maze, a family friend on late stage dialysis was called into a meeting (Henderson…</p>
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				<title>Roland Askew</title>
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						<p>Your recommendations are right on the mark, Emma.</p><p>I have an aquaintance who was working in their call-in help centre until they quit in disgust. Apparently WINZ's funding is tied (in some complicated manner) to the number of beneficiaries in their books &ndash; if the official number drops, their __overall…</p>
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				<title>Walter  Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q> fares are increasing while the service degrades.</q></p><p>Off topic but this is happening with our children's school bus. The route isn't 'profitable' or something.   The new price $2.90 a ride doesn't sound like much on its own, but for our family that is close $240-odd per month &ndash; this for…</p>
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						Even I am counting down the years. So looking forward to having a regular steady income after years of hit and miss contracting. And the Gold Card for free transport. (Might have to vote for Winston to ensure it is still there then, though)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:25:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks Hilary. So to add to that, Christchurch buses are 10-3 weekdays.</q></p><p>And for those without the Gold Card, fares are increasing while the service degrades. They run the service down, fewer people use it, so the fares are increased to compensate, so fewer people use it...</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p><q>you reach 65 and are then entitled to the respectable benefit regardless of what other wealth or assets you have, </q></p><p>or how impoverished you were before. For many disabled, if they achieve 65, they are better off than they have ever been in their lives. Is that reasonable?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:47:25 +1200</pubDate>
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						I would like to say that that most (not all) of the people I have interacted with during my son's long history with Work and Income have been very pleasant and polite. It is the crooked unrealistic system they work in which is the problem, and this comes from the…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:41:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						Thanks Hilary. So to add to that, Christchurch buses are 10-3 weekdays.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:33:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy2</title>
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						Russell I wasn't aware that Autism was curable maybe the WINZ people should explain how this can happen and what world beating research they used. This was always one of the more idiotic ideas, that long term disabilities could suddenly disappear.  Apparently God works for WINZ but does not tell…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:18:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Gold card varies according to local authorities. Some have no time restrictions (Auckland?) while Wellington is 9 -3, after 6pm and all day weekends, I think.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Several gold card holders, even ones who still have cars, have said to me that this makes a huge difference to their independence, far far more than the (saved) cost of the bus ticket would seem to justify. </q></p><p>The last I checked the free travel was limited to between 10…</p>
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				<title>Walter  Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q> making public transport free for everyone would have enormous beneficial effects  ... all the smiling old folks with their GoldCards<q> and wonder if I'm the only paying passenger.</q></p><p>Several gold card holders, even ones who still have cars, have said to me that this makes a huge difference to their…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Yes the times I come across young people without the bus or train fare to get to that essential training course or appointment. Transport costs can take a major part of the benefit. Some groups of people can apply to the Wellington City Council to get a discounted Snapper card…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Ask about a referral to 'Workbridge'.<br />Great organisation, and a 'contracted service' to W&amp;I.</q></p><p>Sadly I can't say the same for Workbridge, at least as far as the Wellington branch is concerned. They've had too much turnover of consultants to be of much use. I'm currently with an alternative supported…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Without wanting to derail the thread, I think making public transport free for everyone would have enormous beneficial effects in the community. All the fuss and expense with cards and tickets, why do we have it?</p><p>When I catch the bus at off-peak times I look around at all the…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						This is from 2009, but I expect the proportions are still roughly similar. You can see that the proportion of actual unemployed is vanishingly small in relation to the total welfare budget.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q> Sounds like W&amp;I underwent the same transition</q></p><p>Culture pushed from Minister down, just like always. Public service managers know their 'customer' is the Minister of the day, and they make sure their minions all look in that direction rather than the people who really need their help and expertise. Bunghole rules.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:12:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the flower lady</q></p><p>ew. make it stop.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:09:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Murray Hewitt</title>
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						<p><q>The refusal to tell you what you are fully entitled to is Machiavellian</q></p><p>I was "on ACC" for 15+ years (late 80's &ndash; early 00's) after an accident.  During that time I experienced the ACC attitude (policy) change from assisting the claimant to receive everything  to which they were entitled,…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I was talking to someone about this earlier this week. Son had dyslexia and other conditions. Eventually managed to work with his strengths and now works for Corrections. Because he knows about learning difficulties through his own lived experience has realised how widespread they are among the prison population. But…
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				<title>Jackie Spencer</title>
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						About 14 years ago I used to teach literacy in a jail. Lots of need for this, as a huge chunk of the Australian prison population has poor or low literacy. Very very hard for people with low literacy to stay Centrelink (name of the government agency handing out the…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>because super is regarded as something you are entitled to, rather than begrudgingly 'doled' out with suspicion and resentment. At least it provides a good example of how it can be done properly.</q></p><p>Over the over 65 rainbow.  Somehow I doubt that the [[http://www.superseniors.msd.govt.nz/about-superseniors/minister-senior-citizens/ministers-welcome.html|flower lady will ever grasp the distinction…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2016 20:46:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the difference of my treatment</q></p><p>because super is regarded as something you are entitled to, rather than begrudgingly 'doled' out with suspicion and resentment. At least it provides a good example of how it can be done properly.</p>
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				<title>Deep Blue</title>
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						<p>Ask about a referral to 'Workbridge'.<br />Great organisation, and a 'contracted service' to W&amp;I.</p>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						When I applied for NZ Super last year, I didn't find it a dehumanising experience. The online form, and Real Me were straightforward enough. There was a separate waiting area, and the person we spoke to took us through the extra benefits we could claim &ndash; rent, and medical payments.…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Thanks Emma. Still gets me angry &ndash; because shame and humiliation and endless pointless cruel hoop-jumping are just what you need when you've lost a job or have a chronic illness. <br />We used to get regularly asked for medical corroboration our boy still had Down Syndrome. It was funny but…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I totally agree that all of these things could be done instead of a UBI, and would have a massive impact on the suffering associated with poverty. I also think they could and should be done as well as a UBI, if the UBI starts a level that is below…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Its predicated on thinking the worst of other people, and having an angelic view of ones self. Ego protection on a grand scale, it sucks!</q></p><p>If the same logic was applied by the IRD to tax haven funds, you can be sure the usual suspects will shout "STALINISM!" in unison.</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>Excellent post.<br /><q> It's the system itself.</q><br />Its predicated on thinking the worst of other people, and having an angelic view of ones self. Ego protection on a grand scale, it sucks!</p>
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						<p><q>Cold calling a number of employers every week is another requirement. And proving that you have called them. I'm sure HR people around NZ (or as they are now called 'Talent') have some gripes about that.</q></p><p>For people with ASD and SAD, it's like being made to climb a greasy…</p>
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				<title>Marion Ogier</title>
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						This is all crazy. I have a family member on a sickness benefit and she seems to cope with it all at present but we always worry about what might happen if some crazy new rule came in. On the other hand the whole bureaucratic mess is represented by the…
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p><q>You’d almost think the overall priority wasn’t really to get everyone a job. </q></p><p>The constant pool of unemployed keeps wages low, hooray!</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						And those individual employment agents have far too many people on their books to really be able to do much.  You’d almost think the overall priority wasn’t really to get everyone a job,
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>I hope all those people who think that begging is a life style choice will read this post. </p><p>They should have to offer to accompany one of those 'opportunistic beggars'* to Work and Income and navigate the appointment process, the 45 page application form with its requirements for numerous forms…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Cold calling a number of employers every week is another requirement. And proving that you have called them. I'm sure HR people around NZ (or as they are now called 'Talent') have some gripes about that.
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						The thing about bureaucracies is that they don't have to be out to deliberately punish or humiliate anyone in order to actually do so &ndash; they just need to be indifferent to how much discomfort they cause.  All you need to do is not employ someone whose job it is…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>The twenty job applications a week rule is blowing my mind. What a waste of time and energy for everyone. When I was looking for work for two months late last year I think I may have applied for... ten to fifteen jobs, total? There's absolutely no point in applying…</q>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Thanks for the post Emma, this is such a big topic. We have been watching what has been happening in the UK with trepidation because NZ nearly always follows suit, mistakes and all.
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						I don't know about deliberate loss of documents, but I do know that they get lost with monotonous regularity. I now take forms to the reception desk and require a  receipt when I hand 'em over. Haven't had any losses since I started doing this. My daughter hasn't had to…
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p><q>It’s about punishment and humiliation Danielle. </q></p><p>So gross. The clearly deliberate loss of documents is all part of the punishment package, I assume.</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						It's about punishment and humiliation Danielle. I know people who are on illegal casual term time only contracts who do not apply for a benefit even over the long Christmas break because the treatment is so damaging. It means scrimping during the paid weeks to have enough to live on…
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						The twenty job applications a week rule is blowing my mind. What a waste of time and energy for everyone. When I was looking for work for two months late last year I think I may have applied for... ten to fifteen jobs, total? There's absolutely no point in applying…
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						<p><q>Joined up government only seems to work against people not for them</q></p><p>Human Rights Commissioner <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11621256" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">has his worries</a> on that score.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Oh and the Kiwibank person then said that W & I had automatic access to beneficiary bank accounts so all this paperwork wasn't even necessary. Joined up government only seems to work against people not for them.
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						That requirement to no longer reconfirm a permanent diagnosis was one of the last actions of the last Labour government – so about 2007. A few years later a National voting friend, no longer having to reconfirm her impairment, congratulated the National government for getting rid of it. But funny…
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						I was on a benefit over Xmas as an employer laid me off with no reason under the 90 day clause in our contract, explaining that he was saving money over a slow time of the year by doing so. I squeezed into the Job Seeker course and was amazed…
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				<title>Tim Darlington</title>
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						Friend of ours reported there's a regular requirement for her to arrange confirmation for W&I that yes, her daughter does still have Down Syndrome.  Maybe they're thinking there might be a "cure" for it, or it might just go away via some miraculous re-arrangement of the genome.
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				<title>WaterDragon</title>
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						They are geniuses in the dark art of having idiotic thoughts in full flight-Weber would have been much more elegant, calling such behaviour bureaupathic.
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						<p>First and foremost, nice piece Emma.<br />Second, re requirement to re-confirm you are still disabled-I've seen policy that says it will be gone on a number of occasions, yet it is still around-large as life and twice as repellent.They appear unable to walk their talk.<br />The practice will lurk, rather…</p>
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				<title>Mellopuffy</title>
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						I'm in the process of applying for a Job Seekers Benefit. First thing I have to do is attend a seminar about my obligations when on the benefit. Once ive done that then I *may* get a appointment with an actual person, which is like to do so I don't…
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				<title>matthew</title>
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						Indeed.  De stigmatsing social welfare is one the most persuasive reasons to support a ubi.
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						I I have a blind friend who has been asked to produce his driver's licence at WINZ.
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						I think we can date the high level of screw-ups from the time benefit administration was taken away from individual case managers. I have a friend who worked for DSW (as it was then) in the 80s, and at that time all the letters were handwritten by your case manager,…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>That requirement to reconfirm an ASD or other permanent diagnosis went about a decade ago. They shouldn't be asking, but yours is not the only recent example I have heard about. I mentioned it to someone senior in MSD who didn't believe it was still happening.</q></p><p>It's certainly still happening…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Sadly WINZ's primary function is no longer about getting people into gainful employment, but rather to tell them in a polite way that they're worthless lead-swingers. It seems Christine Rankin's perfume still permeates the place.</p><p>NZ needs to set up a branch of the <a href="http://blacktrianglecampaign.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Black Triangle Campaign</a>.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						That requirement to reconfirm an ASD or other permanent diagnosis went about a decade ago. They shouldn't be asking, but yours is not the only recent example I have heard about. I mentioned it to someone senior in MSD who didn't believe it was still happening.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>A comment from another friend has made me remember something I really should have included: <a href="https://writehanded.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/fuck-winz-yes-i-said-it/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">basic competence</a>. The piles of contradictory letters. The losing of the important documents they've made you give them. </p><p>When our children were little and we were living on an Invalid's Benefit because I was too…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>rather than money in trusts</q></p><p>The dosh hoarded by the uber-wealthy <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/07/panama-papers-taxes-universal-basic-income-public-services" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">could easily fund a UBI</a> &ndash; which has the big advantage of not sitgmatising people when they need income support.</p>
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						Fucking hell.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						A friend has messaged me to let me know my stand-down periods in this post are wrong. I will edit the post, just as soon as I can get the site to freaking load that page. Stand-downs are <a href="http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/map/deskfile/initial-stand-down/current-stand-down-periods.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. Usually two weeks (though also they pay in arrears, so it's…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Our son had his benefit stopped  on the second day of his first solo travelling (to Wellington). He handled it – and we got some money into his account – but it could easily have caused serious anxiety.</p><p>W&amp;I insist they sent a letter (they didn't) saying that he not only…</p>
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						<p>Thank you, Emma. <br />(A little more trust in people would be appreciated, rather than money in trusts)</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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