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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Quality thread necromancy. Pity nobody cares anymore, or they'd still be here.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:59:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						That doesn't surprise me at all.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:36:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>It's damn lucky, no one saw fit to add to this thread by trying to explain for the fourth time why it actually isn't easy to distinguish between erotica and pornography, </p><p>Last time someone tried to explain relative perception to me, I found I strongly disagreed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:33:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						omigod! I listened to it and it's going to take me till New Year's to recover.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:59:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>Mark wrote:</p><blockquote><p>On topic, can these filters be worked around with a proxy?</p><p>No one knows or no one cares? That was an interesting post Mark Harris of Waikanai. Frankly I'm staggered watching the various clampdowns on offer in the name of safety measures to preserve freedom.</p></blockquote><p>The answer is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:56:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						haha! that's a total mindf@ck, clearly "a long time ago in a galaxy far away" wasn't as long ago as I'd originally calculated.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:29:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Thanks Mark, but what's really important right now is that I have discovered <a href="http://www.euphonioushabitus.net/blog/2008/12/21/electro-xmas/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a song called 'R2-D2 We Wish You A Merry Christmas' with lead vocals by Jon Bon Jovi</a>.</p><p>That's some next-level shit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:14:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On topic, can these filters be worked around with a proxy?</p></blockquote><p>No one knows or no one cares? That was an interesting post Mark Harris of Waikanai. Frankly I'm staggered watching the various clampdowns on offer in the name of safety measures to preserve freedom. </p><p>As possums transfixed in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:41:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:07:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						For interesting diversions over the Christmas period (to get away from the chit-chat and endless recitation  of family anecdotes), you could try <a href="stumbleupon.org">stumbleupon.org</a>.  Add your areas of interest and it will produce all sorts of surprises, reminding you of how much like a mixed bag of sweets the web…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:06:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/up-front-christmas-stockings/?p=86932#post86932</link>
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						For interesting diversions over the Christmas period (to get away from the chit-chat and endless recitation  of family anecdotes), you could try <a href="stumbleupon.org">stumbleupon.org</a>.  Add your areas of interest and it will produce all sorts of surprises, reminding you of how much like a mixed bag of sweets the web…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:06:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Has somebody been playing a bit much WoW?</p></blockquote><p>Um but we have to play that much to complete all the achievements!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:12:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						On topic, can these filters be worked around with a proxy?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:44:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Much as customer service are supposed to provide what they are named for, some of the people involved will say "we can't do that" when they can't be bothered.</p></blockquote><p>My partner still does tech help for... less than techy people and he runs into this problem with telecommunications companies all…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:25:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But this penalty arose from an automatic payment timing changing, not through my doing. I was within my limit, and then the rates went out early for reasons that I don't understand, and I'm $20 dollars over, plus another $20 for the fine.</p></blockquote><p>OK that's one you really need to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:12:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Another point is that they do actually kind of expect people to know what they are spending and take some responsibility for keeping track. No offense intended.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, my bank has never stopped me taking out more than my overdraft. I previously never saw the point of the overdraft limit,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:59:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						<p>OK I'm gonna take that semi seriously and answer so please ignore the following if irrelevant :)</p><p>Umm, well one problem is that it costs you about $20 bucks to have an automatic payment bounce anyway (the money tries to go out automatically and fails) or it used to -…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:43:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tangentially related, I have to ask why my bank lets money leave my account overmy overdraft</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, my bank will bounce my automatic rent payment, but let me rack up extra over-overdrafts on coffee when it should just say no. Sigh. Don't we have a nanny state to stop us…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:26:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>It's not much fun having people come in and yell at you because they've spent all the money in their cheque account and can't get any more out of the money machine. "But now I can't buy presents for my kids!! Why did the machine let me take out the…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:49:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I do sincerely think that everyone would benefit from a spell of customer-facing retail work.</p></blockquote><p>Now that I have a minute... from a 'making people not behave like total smeg-heads' POV, I heartily agree. It's just the idea of then trying to get customer service from people who've no idea…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:31:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						I'm so glad I don't work in customer service at the bank anymore, especially not over the crazy December season. It's not much fun having people come in and yell at you because they've spent all the money in their cheque account and can't get any more out of the…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:19:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Before I run off and take the cat to the vet (all kinds of seasonal WTF there), The <a href="http://skippyslist.com/list/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">213 Things Skippy is no longer allowed to do in the US Army</a>. Old but hysterical.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:06:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stuff n Things</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not Always Right</p></blockquote><p>THANK YOU for this gift! :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:22:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Stevenson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Y'know, I wasn't actually planning to spend my afternoon reading "Not always right" &ndash; I had things to do... Thanks for that.</p></blockquote><p>Ditto<br />Thanks so much Emma</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:21:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So for those of you who'll still be net-enabled this Christmas, what are your favourite sites for roaming around when the shopping and the eating get too much?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Gunslinger</a> never disappoints.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:36:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>snakeoil</title>
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						I work in retail, in a really busy health food store.  Answering the phone is 'lucky dip of horrors'  Such as: "What is the name of the butcher over the road, do you have their number?"  "When is the next bus?"  "Are raspberries higher glycaemic index than boysenberries?" Crustomers, bless…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:47:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>From your link:</p><p>Kitteh sez STFU</p><p>Take the internet away from this person.</p></blockquote><p>Wow.</p><p>I do sincerely think that everyone would benefit from a spell of customer-facing retail work.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:07:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sayana</title>
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						Y'know, I wasn't actually planning to spend my afternoon reading "Not always right" &ndash; I had things to do... Thanks for that.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:56:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<p>From your link: </p><p><a href="http://notalwaysright.com/kitteh-sez-stfu/1203 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kitteh sez STFU</a></p><p>Take the internet away from this person.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:28:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Systems Administrators Guild of Australia</p></blockquote><p>Discworld methinks.  But on the subject of <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,5592.sm#post5553" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">WoW</a> good luck for when you enter the Kitchen of Doom...</p><p>Despite the temporal distortion field that makes it The Day That Never Ends, eventually... it does.</p><p>Xmas cheers and beers!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:20:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						The problem with Mancer's statement is he's comparing apples with oranges. The Aussies are (apparently) sourcing the Cleanfeed list from the Internet Watch Foundation in the UK. That's all it is &ndash; a list. You still have to apply it to filtering software and, while I'm not sure what software…
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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