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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>Does that work on many young people?</q></p><p>On the ones worth talking to, it does.</p><p>Which sounds very snobbish, even for me, but even if I'm not expecting a conversation about literary criticism, I find that the people with whom I'm most likely to have engaging conversations would be able…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:05:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Mind you, even at Great Blends, you don’t know most of the people, until you know them.</q></p><p>You get those who remember bits from online and as the group moves around each other ,one can cross paths by intros. I tend to go, peeps I do know first then anyone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:16:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I've been pondering this, and why I'm pretty sure that, while I suck at small talk, I feel I'm pretty good at this. I don't think it's just the alcohol. And it's why I so enjoy PA gatherings, too, because I'll be able to find some of this.</q></p><p>They're pretty…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:44:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>That is what small talk is for. <br />To find who you want to have the big talk with.</q><br />Aaah!  Speed data...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:40:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Do they know who they are?</q></p><p>VERY important question.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:12:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Do they know who you are? Do you know who they are?</q></p><p>Do they know who they are?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:03:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Tell me you didn't just give away the ending.</q></p><p>LOL!</p><p>I'll confess to not reading so much for pleasure. So it's not a great opener for me. </p><p>But it doesn't matter squat, really, that's what small-talk haters don't get. You could have said "blardy bloop?" and I'd have got most…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:57:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>So you're good for something then? ;)</q></p><p>Yeah, we refer to that one as "the other thing".</p><p><q>What I do enjoy is conversation that is neither formulaic niceties nor serious discourse, but that for want of a better word I'll call "banter". It's a mixture of puns, flirtation, double entendres,…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:49:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Tell me you didn’t just give away the ending.</q></p><p>OOps, sorry. I don't know how far you've got yet but I must say I was rather disappointed to see Ivan Itchyanus has been written out of the story.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:06:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<p><q>Terrible plot by the way and who the F**k is Zylstra?.</q></p><p>Tell me you didn't just give away the ending.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:51:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>If you stop a random 17 year old on the street, your odds of getting a non-reader are low.</q></p><p>Thank you. Good point.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:49:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>But seriously? You seem to have a weird obsession with jumping on everything I say without any actual reference to the content.</q></p><p>He does that a lot, I read it on Facebook. ;-)<br />Oh, and Sacha, I was reading the phone book the other day and you weren’t in it.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:47:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>You seem to have a weird obsession with jumping on everything I say without any actual reference to the content.</q></p><p>Eh?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:43:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Me? End of the evening I got bailed up by Susan’s cousin’s wife and spent about half an hour explaining BDSM.</q></p><p>So you're good for <em>something</em> then? ;)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:34:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<p><q>You said this was about literacy. Bad faith is unappealing.</q></p><p>Oh, for Pete's sake. </p><p>1) I <em>asked</em> if this was about literacy.  </p><p>2) The linked article does in fact make literal reference to literacy in several places, as well as mentioning various issues that fall under that umbrella or are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:30:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I'm just not sure what the point of this argument is.</q></p><p>I have yet to meet a young person who describes their use of Facebook as "reading". That's all. It is more interactive and social &ndash; more like a book club than a book, as it were.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:22:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Yeah. I have kids. My kids have friends. Some of them are big readers. And some of them aren't. Just like when we were kids. What they do appear to do is <em>write</em> more than we did. I''m just not sure what the point of this argument is.</p><p>So. Saturday…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:19:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						You said this was about literacy. Bad faith is unappealing.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:18:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<p>I can't decide whether my lack of interest in doing anything of the sort is because I never made a characterization or because I don't answer to you. </p><p>Oh, well, same result either way.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:08:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Feel free to back up your characterisation that this is about "illiteracy".
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:03:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						That’s just the kind of article I was thinking about when I mentioned cliches. It takes some trends that might – might – be significant, but instead of examining them with any kind of rigor and telling us something worth knowing, it keeps throwing out numbers and hoping something sticks.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:54:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>cliched about illiterate yoofs</q></p><p>not illiterate, disinterested &ndash; <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2007/11/19/young_people_reading_a_lot_less/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">like this</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:59:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<p><q> <em>I rather like “what have you been reading lately?"</em></p><p>Does that work on many young people?</q></p><p>Yes, it does. We’re not going to get all tedious and cliched about illiterate yoofs are we?</p><p>Mostly it’s even paper books, not that there’s anything wrong with electronic ones. There’s also nothing intrinsically…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:26:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>Wow, so much small talk! I've been out of the loop for a few days and look what happens...</p><p>I'm often not too bad at small talk, though I don't particularly relish it. I'd like to be better at (a) initiating small talk in social situations so that I can…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:12:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						**@Sofie Bribiesca small talk can definitely be a small, first step towards friendship but it is neither necessary nor sufficient for the process. There are people I have known for years with whom I have never progressed beyond small talk, and people I consider dear friends with whom it was…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Not that I'm saying it will, but hey, you never know. ;-)</q><br /> And I'm a good salesperson, one may never know the benefits of small talk, you gotta be there to be in it.</p><p>Friendbook, ...where everyone can get along. :) Friend help friend innit!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:23:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>Small talk, as in " Where do you fit in?"<br />I chat on the same forum and heard people were going down here tonight so thought I'd check it out"<br />can lead to<br />'Well have you got a business card?" </q><br />The inconsequential serendipitous meetings that change the course of history.…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>What I do know is that small talk will not do it.</q><br />Beg to differ,<br />Small talk, as in " Where do you fit in?" <br />I chat on the same forum and heard people were going down here tonight so thought I'd check it out"<br />can lead to <br />'Well have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:10:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong> it is called interFacing isn't it?</strong><br /><q>have you heard anyone say "I'm reading Facebook"?</q><br />not unless they are skyping or have left the mic on<br />&ndash; like reading books it is a solitary endeavour<br /><em>Not working &ndash; Networking!</em></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:16:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<q>I can socialise without making a complete fool of myself &ndash; or if I can't, no-one's been unkind enough to tell me &ndash; but the step from acquaintance to active socialising outside of obligatory contexts (work, university, clubs, etc)? Still a bit of a mystery. It's happened, but I couldn't…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:09:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						have you heard anyone say "I'm reading Facebook"?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:45:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Reading was used above in its recreational sense. Not as part of a communication process.</p><p>When someone asks "what have you been reading?" only a tiresomely unfunny ass would reply "a cornflake packet" or "a phone number".</q></p><p>So what if the answer was "Public Address System"?  Is *this* reading, socialising,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:31:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Reading was used above in its recreational sense. Not as part of a communication process. </p><p>When someone asks "what have you been reading?" only a tiresomely unfunny ass would reply "a cornflake packet" or "a phone number".</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:44:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I could see " Facebook" being an answer to that.<br />Do you reckon young people think of that as "reading"?</q></p><p>How could they not?<br />Unless, of course, they were just looking at the pictures but then someone that illiterate could not set up a Facebook page on account of not…</p>
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						<p>Elvis gets Elmoed</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxardpBReQc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxardpBReQc</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:54:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Yeah but </q></p><p>Nah but, Casual shallow and... meaningless. ;)</p>
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						<p>What a dude. He was so damn funny ad-libbing on Rove.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8wpBbbSxdw&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8wpBbbSxdw&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:15:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						Yeah but that's hanging out or communicating, not "reading".
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:57:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						Yep I reckon. If, when I even suggest human contact  with regards other stuff, kids I know say can you facebook me, so I can imagine that being a default answer now. I've taken to responding to some of them when asked different things. "Why are you googling me?"
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:29:20 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Elmo is love &ndash; says the man who brings the red critter to life.</q></p><p>Dude, the trailer had me at 'Hello'.  Can't wait to take the kids to that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:22:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:09:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>You know, all these ideas are good, but maybe Jim was onto something.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:58:21 +1300</pubDate>
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						Thanks, I know about the Crhistmas claim queue.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:44:17 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>my sample is already biased, given that they are uni students</q></p><p>extremely</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:30:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						But if you get the contents claim in by the end of the month they promise to pay out before Christmas! Which is interesting because they've had ours since... May?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:14:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						<p>Completely anecdotal data says "Yes." My first years (in a fairly large class so it's an okay sample size[1]) seem to read a lot and very widely, if the books I see them reading is any indication.</p><p>1. Of course, my sample is already biased, given that they are uni…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:09:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I could see " Facebook" being an answer to that.</q></p><p>Do you reckon young people think of that as "reading"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:33:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						Still more forms! And I haven't even done my EQC contents claim.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:31:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Another Random Factory byproduct...</strong><br /><q>...the tai chi I have been seeking</q><br />Say hi to my old flatmate, Peter Hinkley, for me...<br />Meanwhile here are 37 forms for you to fill out:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RgAs37_noI&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RgAs37_noI&amp;feature=related</a><br />:- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:25:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						I could see " Facebook" being an answer  to that. Might do, but it could also invite " "Mind your own business"
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						<p><q>Swan Lake</q><br />Ian, your link to the website  answered a question you didn't know I was asking &mdash; the tai chi I have been seeking . Wonderful. Thank you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:02:24 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I rather like "what have you been reading lately?"</q></p><p>Does that work on many young people?</p>
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						<p><q>- hope ya don’t mind Joe, great colouring –</q></p><p>Great stuff.One day I might be able to afford one of his skateboards. A <em>very</em> talented artist.:)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:54:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>his answer was along the lines of "I don't read books, I just write them". </q></p><p>I wonder if he realises that's pretty much the same as advising people to not bother reading anything he writes, on the grounds it has a high probability of being awful?</p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						I rather like "what have you been reading lately?" because it's broad enough to encompass whatever item they actually want to talk about and because you then get to talk about books.  And because if it doesn't work, that's ok too because I've still learned something significant, if negative. Like…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 03:26:19 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Okay, this has made me think. Everyone is, at some stage, strangers to each other. So how have you initiated your friendships?</q></p><p>With great difficulty. </p><p>More seriously: via the Internet, or through discovery of shared interests. I would <em>love</em> an Idiot's Guide To Making Friends With People. I can socialise…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:20:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Okay, this has made me think. Everyone is, at some stage, strangers to each other. So how have you initiated your friendships?</q></p><p>Interesting question Jackie: for me, it has been physical proximity &amp; a large amount of time, and shared experiences (from floods to bonfires; from teaching the neighbours about hangi,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:46:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Pearls before swan…</strong><br /><q>…at Shambhala, now in an otherworldly Thai <br />tea garden (really) near the South Library</q><br />In Ernlea Tce at the end of the dead end st (for cars) opposite South Library – called <a href="http://www.swanlake.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Swan Lake</a> – it’s where I get my fresh water, they have diverted a lead…</p>
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						<q>A couple of drinks next to Emma and you'll be over-sharing with the rest of us</q>Actually I don't drink (then I can remember what everyone said) and my real name is Peg Bundy...
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						<p><q>Why thank you Emma; I could try to listen. </q></p><p>A couple of drinks next to Emma and you'll be over-sharing with the rest of us.</p>
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						<p><q>Hebe: you must come out the next time we go for Beers and Talking About Sex</q></p><p>Why thank you Emma; I could try to listen. <br />BTW if you need a non-braindead hairdresser try Teo at  Shambhala, now in an otherworldly Thai tea garden (really) near the South Library.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:26:57 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I still haven't worked out a way to say "I've got a TV show" without sounding like a wanker ...</q></p><p>Lucky that the government is shutting that channel down to solve that problem for ya.</p>
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						<p><strong>Speaking of...</strong><br /><q>...“Vibrancy”. Fnarr, Fnarr. </q><br />Vibrancy (sounds like Viper) Fnart fine art...<br /><a href="http://it-it.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150403433445652.606883.436424315651&amp;type=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">an early Joe Wylie classic</a> as reprinted in the <br />Spanish underground comic magazine <em>El Vibora...</em><br />&ndash; hope ya don't mind Joe, great colouring &ndash; <br />I remember the original in black in <em>Strips.</em></p>
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						<p><strong>how to make friends and influence people...</strong><br />There's possibly a <a href="http://www.thebigidea.co.nz/work/jobs-opportunities/writing-publishing/fiction/93825-partner-in-crime-or-graphic-novel-illustrat" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">great opportunity</a> for someone who can draw, <br />on the Big Idea jobs list at the moment...<br />It sorta even sounds like it could be the graphic novel <br />of Emma's Great Blend story &ndash; fun!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:58:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Just like ‘Vibrancy’ in Chchch, which is trotted out by our Great Communicator at the drop of a hat . . .</q><br /><a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_7sf1yrB6Oi4/SDd7U9_dH-I/AAAAAAAAA2w/pkJmOAMtnd4/s1600-h/725215.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Vibrancy"</a>. Fnarr fnarrr. (Caution: Semi-sfw).</p>
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						<p><q>‘Vibrancy’ </q></p><p>I think that would be a great descriptor for Christchurch.<br />"What do you do?"<br />"I vibrate"</p>
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						<p><strong>Words for lost, am I...</strong><br /><q>Yeah, the P-word has been comprehensively devalued... </q><br />Just like 'Vibrancy' in Chchch, which is trotted out by our Great Communicator at the drop of a hat or the <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/5794445/Temporary-hub-will-restore-vibrancy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">opening of a bus stop</a> &ndash; in this case it is laughably paired with 'restore' &ndash; I…</p>
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						This was in the 90s before the word got corporately thrashed (but after any residual hippies had finished with it).
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:05:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Yeah, the P-word has been comprehensively devalued by a billion bad recruitment ads and similar marketing shite.</p><p><a href="http://www.seek.co.nz/JobSearch?DateRange=31&amp;SearchFrom=quick&amp;Keywords=passionate&amp;nation=3001" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">There are currently 1,339 jobs advertised on Seek that use that word.</a></p><p>Including one that asks if you're 'passionate about 2-3 year-olds?'. Did no-one at the recruiters double-take that before posting and decide to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:53:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						Worked a treat. Cut to the chase. Charming though so probably could have got away with asking anythng.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:50:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>"what are you passionate about"</q></p><p>Ugh. Even all-round cuteness doesn't excuse that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:45:09 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I might try "what are you interested in?"</q></p><p>I knew someone who routinely went straight for the jugular with "what are you passionate about". Her all-round cuteness may have helped overcome any initial resistance.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:27:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>What would be some good ice breakers that aren’t of the How are you?, What do you do variety?</q></p><p>I might try "what are you interested in?". As Emma has mentioned a couple of times, watching someone get their freak on about something they're passionate about is pretty entertaining for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:51:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>So tonight in a real life example of this discussion we learnt the phrase 'so where do you fit in?' works quite well.</p><p>Although it is not too much of a stretch to imagine the circumstances in which such an inquiry could be misconstrued.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:01:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gregor Ronald</title>
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						What's "hair"?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:45:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Smalltalk? pub</q><br />Rhubarb, hubbub...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:49:52 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>yes going now :)</q></p><p>Bingo!</p><p>ETA:  So we appear to have mastered this smalltalk thing.  </p><p>See you soon.<br />‘Not if I see you first’.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:47:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Smalltalk?     pub
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						yes going now :)
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:39:03 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Thirsty.</q></p><p>Neighbourhood?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:35:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>How are you?</p><p>I've got a mortgage.</p><p><br />How are you?</p><p>You got Life Insurance?</p><p><br />How are you?</p><p>Fair to middling.</p><p>How are you?</p><p>Thirsty.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:33:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Or in response to the ghastly Have a nice day!:</p><p>I have other plans.</q></p><p>Not so common with adults, but I do like saying in response to 'thanks for having us'<br />'Thanks for being had'.</p><p>Polite children tend to look a little bewildered, but good to keep them guessing.</p><p>And…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:31:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DCBCauchi</title>
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						<p><q>The word 'phatic' means that what you're conveying is not the sense of your words as such, but an amorphous 'Yeah mate, I'm with you.'</q></p><p>And as the man said:</p><p>'Who is with me is against me!'</p><p>Speaking of words to live by.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:30:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Or in response to the ghastly Have a nice day!<br />:I have other plans.</q><br />or <em>Maybe</em><br />See... laughter :)</p>
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						I think laughter is a great addition to any gathering. That's an ice breaker.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:25:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>spinners...</strong><br /><q>Did you know that the male spider has <br />his penis on the end of one of his legs?</q><br />I hear ya get a lot of those foot long penises on the web...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:11:37 +1300</pubDate>
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						though they may do after a tinkle
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:10:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>That being said, I fucking hate the hairdresser </q></p><p>Yes, I recall an incident of threatening to sue Rodney Wayne once for getting the red completely wrong. It went all "and you call <em>that </em> red!<br />A year or so later I was at a Schwarzkopf function and dammit I was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:05:46 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Words don't seem to be able to express the need for communion as well as many of us would like, so we've developed codes.</q></p><p>It's called phatic communion. The word 'phatic' means that what you're conveying is not the sense of your words as such, but an amorphous 'Yeah mate,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:01:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						<p><q>What would be some good ice breakers that aren't of the How are you?, What do you do variety?</q></p><p>Richard Briers suggests "Did you know that the male spider has his penis on the end of one of his legs?"</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p>Or in response to the ghastly <em>Have a nice day!</em>:</p><p><em>I have other plans.</em></p>
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						<p><q>What would be some good ice breakers that aren't of the How are you?, What do you do variety?</q></p><p>    Person 1"Gidday"<br />    Person 2 "Yeah, Nah." (applies in many situations)</p><p>For forgotten names get your friend to say to them, "Hi, Im .... and you are? (thus enabling you off the…</p>
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						[On second thoughts, that might not necessarily be taken the right way.]
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						<p><q>I'm there, he's there, he knows I care</q></p><p>Amen.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Makes you think. Sometimes I say " How do you know so and so" if I know the person who's holding the shindig, but know no-one else otherwise. I have been known to ask people what they do for a living. I couch it slightly differently with an addendum of…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:42:27 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>"I've got a TV show"</q></p><p>And a mighty fine one at that.</p><p>One of my friends in Wellington used to say 'well, when I'm not making milkshakes and selling coke, I drive the Cable car'.  He was in fact a film editor.  Which was about the coolest thing any of…</p>
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						<p><q>I still haven't worked out a way to say "I've got a TV show" without sounding like a wanker ...</q></p><p>Isn't that <strong>why</strong> you'd say "I've got my own TV show"? I can imagine using that after being regaled with wanker-stories from someone, whether of the "I'm so rich" or…</p>
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						<p><q> <em>The worse small talk starter ever (and one I use distastefully often) is "And what do you do?" How the hell do you answer that?</em></p><p>"Well, I do lots of things."</q></p><p>I still haven't worked out a way to say "I've got a TV show" without sounding like a wanker…</p>
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						The late Marcel Marceau had little patience for phatic discourse.  His response to the the 'and what do you do?' question was, 'I breathe.'  Succinct and truthful, albeit rather rude and dismissive.
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						<p><q>That means John may well get called Miriama</q></p><p>Ah, now I get it.  Thanks Harold.</p>
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						<p><q>but anglicising, or just changing</q></p><p>You misunderstood, get their names on the first day (whatever their names are), note then that you will call whomever sits in that seat by that name. </p><p>That means John may well get called Miriama</p>
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						<p><q>men sitting silently together for long periods</q></p><p>Whereas kiwi men just grunt</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>The worse small talk starter ever (and one I use distastefully often) is "And what do you do?" How the hell do you answer that?</q></p><p>"Well, I do lots of things."</p>
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						<p><q>This is a whole other debate, but anglicising, or just changing, the names of people whose birth name we have difficulty pronouncing seems (euphemistically speaking) troublesome.</q></p><p>For some people it's not optional. I'm told that Sinhalese uses almost the full set of known human phonemes, but then you add tonal…</p>
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						Distance moderates height and bulk.
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						<p><q>Weird and uncomfortable, but I guess we assume the shapes of our tribes over time.</q></p><p>Interestingly, I've always felt short, even though I'm now 185cm.   Late growth spurt meant until 5th form I was shorter than everyone.  I actually believe it has helped with my demeanour, as while I have…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Perhaps they've deliberately learned how to do this, or are somehow just gifted with perception and skill.</q></p><p>Both, I'd say, in most cases. The naturally gifted simply get more opportunities to learn, so a feedback loop is established. Good post, by the way. Not too long at all.</p><p>The thing…</p>
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				<title>Kyhwana</title>
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						Craig, that could go awesomley or poorly, depending on the person you tell it to. ;)
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Fairweather friends...</strong><br /><q>At first tentative<br />Full of promise and hope<br />Everlasting spring.</q></p><p>a well seasoned hi cue...<br />;- )</p>
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						I think the 'communion' aspects and the 'searching for friendship' aspects are two different types of interaction. The first can lead to the second, but mostly doesn't. I generally assume that the chance of finding peeps on my, uh, 'wavelength' </hippy> is vanishingly small, but the 'hey, here we are being…
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						<p><q> So if you don't do small talk (I'm assuming we mean that initial "Hi, how are you? etc" that people do when they first meet), what does that first blooming of friendship look to many of you?</q></p><p>Good question. For me it's an extremely gradual process. I can have many…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>This is a whole other debate, but anglicising, or just changing, the names of people whose birth name we have difficulty pronouncing seems (euphemistically speaking) troublesome.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA</a></p>
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						<q>When someone asks how you are, it’s not unreasonable to assume that they don’t really want to know, but they do want to somehow share being human with you. These codes are found all over the place. In some parts of China, a standard greeting is “Have you eaten?”; in…</q>
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						<p><q>You could tell them that you will call the person in that seat John </q></p><p>This is a whole other debate, but anglicising, or just changing, the names of people whose birth name we have difficulty pronouncing seems (euphemistically speaking) troublesome. <br /><q>what does that first blooming of friendship look [like] to…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Sorry for the long post</q></p><p>You must be thinking of some other website :)</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>men sitting silently together for long periods, content in each other's company without a need to express this in words</q></p><p>Thank you. For several decades, the prevailing public discourse has treated inter-personal communication largely as being about talking (especially about feeelings). I enjoy that myself, but many don't &ndash; particularly…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>common wealth...</strong><br /><q>I think it comes down to the difference between <br />communication and communion.</q><br />Yes, the introduction of the iCat has been a <br />great breakthrough for modern man...<br />(and they always land on their pads!)</p>
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						I recognise amongst the postings here a certain amount of bewilderment and possibly even pain of being excluded from something. Small talk seems so pointless to many people: it seems like a key to some club from which they're excluded. A club to which they don't know if they want…
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						Really good stuff Ian, I like that one very much.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Emma Hart: I loved this piece; TMI are my middle initials. Why have a conversation if it's not a real one?</q></p><p>Hebe: you must come out the next time we go for Beers and Talking About Sex.</p><p><q>So if you don't do small talk (I'm assuming we mean that initial…</q></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						corgis
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I could see how offering to steam clean the head of state's downstairs carpet</q></p><p>Don't be silly she has little people to do that for her already</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>remembering where students were sitting when I first met them</q></p><p>You could tell them that you will call the person in that seat John regardless of who sits there, then it's up to them if they want to be called by their own names.</p>
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						You can get by without small talk: I've managed to initiate friendships and the like by launching straight into the big talk ("Come on, boffins!") by just being disarming (and slightly charming). It probably is a special skill: years of speech and drama coaching (once again, part of my learning…
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Yes! Couldn't have said it better myself, Ian.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>beyond the mall stalk... entering amityville</strong><br /><q>what does that first blooming of friendship look (like)</q><br />when buds branch into buddies<br />cordiality flows to new tolerances<br />blowhards puff into harmonicas<br />alleys widen to alliances <br />sidekicking along companionways<br />thus pals become palpable</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>And without revealing in that one sentence something they would rather not have publicised. As in, "This is Garth, he has a wonderful model train set in his garage".</q></p><p>unless of course that's a wonderfully crafted euphemism for something else ..... as in <br /><q>offering to steam clean the head of…</q></p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Okay, this has made me think. Everyone is, at some stage, strangers to each other. So how have you initiated your friendships? Have others initiated, or have you made the first move? Did someone introduce you? I am curious, because I'm thinking about how we make friends. So if you…
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						<p><q> But this was my first professional colour, so the first time I'd been in the salon for two hours. My tweets became increasingly desperate.</q></p><p>I cannot emphasise strongly enough that no matter how good the salon's espresso machine is, you should UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES drink coffee the entire time. Not…</p>
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						<p>yeah, you'd probably have to offer to do it for free<br />and not mention putting a crimp in it.<br />royals are just so entitled, eh.</p>
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						<p><q>What I would really, really love to be able to do is hostess properly.</q></p><p>It's a skill, most certainly. But there's small talk in it. Introducing people to the next love of their life might involve wading through the shallows. It seems like a very meaningful activity to me.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>... which largely explains why Craig is yet to be knighted.</q></p><p>I could see how offering to steam clean the head of state's downstairs carpet for a modest fee would put a crimp in that ambition.</p>
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						<p>All my life, I've found other people &ndash; inscrutable.<br />I learned to understand my mother (who also understands me best)<br />some of my siblings (5)<br />and a very few friends.<br />Or, people I've known in safe social relationships for many years (Shakespeare reading group.)</p><p>Small talk/gossip/ socialese &ndash; cant do…</p>
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						<p><q>The worse small talk starter ever (and one I use distastefully often) is "And what do you do?" How the hell do you answer that? </q></p><p>If you ask this of someone like me, for whom parenting is my primary occupation, you are going to come away with the perception that…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>What would be some good ice breakers that aren’t of the How are you?, What do you do variety?</q></p><p>I’ve long suspected Laurie Anderson must be a gas at cocktail parties. <em>Que es mas macho iceberg or volcano?</em></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9YAz3A4pc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9YAz3A4pc</a></p>
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						<p>Emma Hart: I loved this piece; TMI are my middle initials. Why have a conversation if it's not a real one?  </p><p>@Isabel Hitchings: I agree, competitive parenting is so vile.</p>
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						<p>The other alternative is just to get two big brains together and sort of interview them about their ideas in this 1971 Chomsky Foucault discussion <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2011/10/chomsky-foucault_debate_1971.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.openculture.com/2011/10/chomsky-foucault_debate_1971.html</a></p><p>I mention this because I got two good friends together finally and they had a nice chat in the rain in a Cuba Street…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						Ben, I like what you're saying and it makes a lot of sense to me. Trouble is, it runs completely counter to my own experience. For one thing, I find learning foreign languages infinitely easier than making small talk in English. I'm quite happy reading newspapers and novels and textbooks…
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						And without revealing in that one sentence something they would rather not have publicised. As in, "This is Garth, he has a wonderful model train set in his garage".
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						I would love to be able to do that. Tricky part is getting them into the same place at the same time, when it is quiet enough for each to hear the other. Unfortunately, they might also dislike each other on sight.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<q>I have found that if it is at a party or function for someone or for a particular cause to ask "What is your relationship to x?" and that is usually pretty safe, and they have to answer with more than yes or no and that provides something to build…</q>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						This is almost therapuetic. I thought I was the only one who has troubles with small talk (medium talk is ok; big talk is great). My daughter increasingly comments on my social awkwardness but there are situations that resemble hell eg meeting MPs or, recently, making a hurried tour of…
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						I started a conversation tonight with 'sorry, I'm terrible with names...'  He'd forgotten mine too, so it was sweet.
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						It is very difficult to find that value neutral question to start a conversation. I have found that if it is at a party or function for someone or for a particular cause to ask "What is your relationship to x?" and that is usually pretty safe, and they have…
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						<p><q>Though self-esteem can be unhelpful.</q></p><p><em> <a href="http://www.shakespeare-online.com/sonnets/121.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">’Tis better to be vile than vile esteeem'd</a></em><br />In particular, beware the false adulterate eyes.</p><p><q>The other side of the coin is everyone else learning ways to communicate and build relationships that respect different levels of comfort or proficiency with small talk.</q><br />Yes.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Out on the street...</strong><br /><q>at an Act on Campus gathering</q><br />I'm guessing that wouldn't be held in a Student Union run space, then....<br />And that there wouldn't be a Young ACT Club affiliated at the this uni?</p>
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						<p><q>Global warmings all shit aye?</q></p><p>that probably counts at an Act on Campus gathering</p>
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						You are excellent at small talk it is true, and other kinds of talk. When I am in the zone I actually enjoy small talk (this usually involves wine).
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Were you bullied as a child?</q><br />Why? Do I look like a politician?</p>
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						<p>What would be some good ice breakers that aren't of the How are you?, What do you do variety?</p><p>What's your favourite position?<br />Were you bullied as a child?<br />Do you own any sex toys?<br />Global warmings all shit aye?</p>
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						... which largely explains why Craig is yet to be knighted.
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						One, I believe, of the Queen's favourite lines :-)
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						The worse small talk starter ever (and one I use distastefully often) is <strong>"And what do you do?"</strong>  How the hell do you answer that?  Need to discourage it by answering: “Hand job twenty, blow job fifty, full monty two hundred (with a rubber). No anal, bondage or kinky shit.…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p>Yup, "Just a sock" Alf.<br />The pic's working for me.<br />(You're not getting that dodgy DNS server thing by any chance? There's been a bit of it about.)</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...who mistook a discarded sock for an alien.</q><br />are we talking <em>ALF</em> here ?<br />(the link denied access)</p>
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						<p><q>Or indeed, if they are just a hat <br />&ndash; and we're not talking de Bono here...</q><br />No sir. <br />de Bono's work never inspired an entire four sitcom seasons about an entire family who <a href="http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTczNzk0NTUyOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDczODU2._V1._SX450_SY305_.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">mistook a discarded sock for an alien.</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>I tend to actually enjoy seeing what useful information I can get out of cabbies if they won't shut up. There's so many directions you can take a conversation that aren't their boring hobby horse.</p></blockquote><p>I don't get many taxi's in Auckland because I'm too broke to go <em>out</em> much…</p>
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						<p><q>The question is can I do it authentically? And a lot of chit chat involves not telling people what I really think in order to keep things 'nice' and that is very, very wearing.</q></p><p>Oh, this.</p><p>My favourite people know (because, basically, I've told them specifically) that I will never…</p>
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						I really wish supermarkets would stop demanding their check-out staff ask customers "How are you?" "How's your day going?". There have been times when I've been tempted to reach over and shake them for not knowing that someone close to me has died, or I've got the flu, or I'm…
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						<p><strong>recog-ignition...</strong><br /><q> ...whether they’re in your ‘Inner Circle’, <br />or if in fact you are married to them.</q><br />Or indeed, if they are just <a href="http://www.oliversacks.com/books/man-who-mistook-his-wife/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a hat</a> <br />&ndash; and we're not talking de Bono here...</p>
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						<p><q>It may be a skill that can be taught but it won't necessarily enrich your life.</q></p><p>No, that's true. But it's got a high probability of doing so. Maths is much the same. Some people want to die from maths, sure. But of itself, it's a great boon to humanity.…</p>
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						The other side of the coin is everyone else learning ways to communicate and build relationships that respect different levels of comfort or proficiency with small talk.
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						<p><q>Small talk is learnable. The only real question is: Can you be bothered?</q></p><p>For me the question isn't can I learn it? Or can I be bothered? (The answers are yes and sometimes respectively). The question is can I do it authentically? And a lot of chit chat involves not…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Small talk is in some respects a learned skill, for some of us. However, I'm not sure that it's a skill worth acquiring</q></p><p>It's one of those interesting skills where being bad at it can be a positive disincentive to further practise. Like falling off the  bike so much you…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Personally, I found being socially awkward quite distressing as a young teen. It limited my ability to form relationships, particularly with the opposite sex. </q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artistsl" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">For men.</a></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">For women.</a></p><p>Just leave copy of these lying around where your kids can stumble across them. Bosh. Job done.</p>
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						It may be a skill that can be taught but it won't necessarily enrich your life. For example, I can do small talk (indeed, arguably I was taught the how and why of small talk due to my having a speech disability and needing to know ways to get around…
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						<p><q>While I agree with you, I don't think instilling self-worth and confidence in young children is all that easy, otherwise we would be living in a different world, no?</q></p><p>Indeed. The small talk is only a small piece of the picture. But every skill one acquires increases confidence, which goes…</p>
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						<p><q>instilling self-worth and confidence</q></p><p>Though self-esteem can be <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/5785220/The-downside-of-positive-thinking" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">unhelpful</a>.</p>
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						<p><q> It is extremely teachable</q></p><p>While I agree with you to a degree, I don’t think instilling self-worth and confidence in young children (or adults) is all that easy, otherwise we would be living in a different world, no?<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEpAtTe-oJY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEpAtTe-oJY</a></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>facial recognition software</q></p><p>The update of the Android OS released today can apparently unlock the phone/tablet when it recognises your face.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Heh...a bit obvious, though. Voice recognition might be sneakier...the phone could buzz you when it gets the name. </p><p>However. If you've gone to the trouble to enter their name and picture and voice into a database, it's highly likely you'll remember them anyway.</p><p><q>Small talk is in some respects a…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:36:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						I am, in fact, married to my hairdresser. Or more accurately, my wife runs the clippers over my head every now and then. Mostly because I miss bits at the back if I try it solo. No problems with hairdressers, just too cheapass to pay for a number one clipper…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:34:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						Perhaps apposite.  <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/18/us-social-phobia-idUSTRE79H7O020111018" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Social phobia not shyness</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:34:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I'm lucky that I am in that demographic that is both mass-produced and invisible (even though I'm not a small person). I can meet people several times and they have no recollection or meeting me, or think I'm someone else. Just as well that I also have a poor memory…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:32:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<p>I think, little cards like they had in the old days and you can hand them to people so that they know who you are. You could write suggestions for topics on them:<br />"I DO NOT wish to talk about Prince Albert's piercing!"</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:31:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Wouldn't that be great? Except I have no iPhone, so, you know, maybe not quite as workable as we first thought.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:26:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>You see? I am BAD.</q></p><p>I've just thought of an awesome App.  Kind of like Shazam is for music, but with facial recognition software.  Facebook and Picasa both have this built in already, so not a big stretch to allow your phone to surreptitiously scan the person in front of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:23:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p><q>"Perhaps," said Darcy, "I should have judged better, had I sought an introduction, but I am ill qualified to recommend myself to strangers."</p><p>"Shall we ask your cousin the reason of this?" said Elizabeth, still addressing Colonel Fitzwilliam. "Shall we ask him why a man of sense and education, and…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:22:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>So much to chat about!</p><p><q>So all things considered, you can imagine the state of mind in which I went to my hairdresser on Saturday. Now, my hairdresser herself is lovely, but I can only really deal with that kind of environment by viewing the experience as an anthropological field…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:10:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Well, maybe my biggest secret is &ndash; not only do I not remember peoples' names, but I also don't know where I know them from. Case in point &ndash; and highly pertinent considering the hairdresser meme (did I use that correctly?) &ndash; is a woman who's just started coming up…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:06:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I'm not much good with names and faces. Not because of any mental difficulty &ndash; if required I could memorize the names of a hundred random strangers in about 10 minutes. But I don't, mostly because I don't care, and it's not required to, and I'm at a party to…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:04:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Is this were you furrow your brow enigmatically, and say that you have issues with Andrew Lang’s Anglocentric bias and cultural insenitivity?</q></p><p>Then compare them with Hitler?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:03:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						If nothing else, thank you for the reminder why I shave my own head.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:58:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>My big secret is that I can’t remember peoples’ names.</p><p>That can be awkward.</q></p><p>I do find that most people are okay with, “I’m sorry, I can’t remember your name.” ONCE. Which is once more than they tend to be okay with “I’m sorry, I can’t remember who you are.”…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:52:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>micro-famous</q></p><p>very good</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:48:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>cabbies if they won't shut up</q></p><p>honestly never had this problem, though I hear about it all the time</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:46:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>My big secret is that I can't remember peoples' names. </q></p><p>That can be <a href="http://xkcd.com/302/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">awkward</a>.  </p><p>I used to have this trick when I was teaching, but it involved drawing little pictures and remembering where students were sitting when I first met them, and then making them stay in the same seat…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:42:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						My hairdresser gives me <em>Tatler</em> and <em>Vanity Fair</em>, doesn't trouble me with endless small talk and gives me fab haircuts. That's all I need.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Names only get you so far. I am similar, and usually I can place the face and give you a potted summary of the person, but not always. Sometimes I find myself having a great chat with someone who obviously knows me then afterwards going “who was that”? I find…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:34:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>But there’s no easy escape from hairdressers and cabbies &ndash; they hold you hostage until their conversational demands are met.</q></p><p>Hairdressers do, for sure. You don't want to offend in case they fuck your hair up. Fortunately you can choose which one you use. Cabbies, not so much. But likewise,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:25:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Stevenson</title>
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						Try <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/a69c/?srp=2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:21:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I can't remember peoples' names....I pretend I do know people, and I'm very good at hiding my secret shame</q></p><p>Names only get you so far. I am similar, and usually I can place the face and give you a potted summary of the person, but not always. Sometimes I find…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:19:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						Small talk is basically filler. I have grown to favour the aspie approach of "I like you too". Much better to meet up with a friend I haven't seen for a few years, go to the pub, then spend a couple of hours talking about stuff that actually matters. Yes,…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:14:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Blagueur plague...</strong><br /><q>Small talk is learnable.</q><br />Micro-blagging or micro-bragging?</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						My big secret is that I can't remember peoples' names. (As Rich will testify) Or I get them mixed up. I know faces, but I can't often match them to names etc if I have met a person less than, say, 10 times. I pretend I do know people, and…
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>PAS introduced me to my Wellington friends, and I came full circle...</q> </p><p>Surely that's pushing it even for fairly close friends?</p><p>At least on PA there's no danger that it will go all quiet.</p><p><q>That Expression on the faces of checkout operators.</q></p><p>I found myself doing that the other day.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:05:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Small talk is learnable.</q></p><p>Yes, and like you mentioned in another thread, I’ve learned enough vague detail to be able to deflect awkwardness when, for example, sport comes up. Enough to be able to hold my own politely while planning a swift exit for a drink or pit stop.</p><p>But…</p>
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