Public Address | Cafe | Talk: Budget 09 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address mildgreens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113272#post113272 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113272#post113272 And ETS fits in where?

(perhaps Bill English is is going to contract and converge sometime soon!)


And despite citizens and police being mown down as collateral damage in the war on drugs, English believes the answer to prohibition is more prohibition.... JK is coming gunning for your house if…

]]> Sat, 30 May 2009 15:01:01 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113097#post113097 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113097#post113097

It's not money on top of the Budget though – it's spending WITHIN the budget. So it's part of the surplus/deficit.

I know. Hence reducing it reduces the deficit, increasing it reduces the surplus.

That still doesn't answer my question. You could achieve the same long term effect by saving…

]]> Fri, 29 May 2009 10:08:48 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113088#post113088 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113088#post113088

How long has English been living in Wellington for now?

You’d have thought at least some of the accent would’ve worn off.

Probably all the Standard & Poors semen clogging up his windpipe, if the economically psychotic (and disappointingly weak) speeches from Messers Goff and Norman are anything to go by.…

]]> Fri, 29 May 2009 09:30:28 +1200 ChrisW https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113029#post113029 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113029#post113029

How long has English been living in Wellington for now?

You’d have thought at least some of the accent would’ve worn off.

But OTOH I unmistakably heard him say he was providing another 36 million dollars to improve numeracy and literary standards.

Well, maybe the accent did confuse me and…

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 18:41:50 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113012#post113012 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113012#post113012

I learned about the evils of retrenchment and Gordon Coates in 5th form history — did English skip class during that module?

Forbes-Coates v2.0 alpha release.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 16:47:55 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113008#post113008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113008#post113008

I'd much rather they save more (into the fund) when they're in surplus, and cut it right back when they're in deficit.

It's not money on top of the Budget though – it's spending WITHIN the budget. So it's part of the surplus/deficit.

There is a strong argument for funding…

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 16:08:10 +1200 LegBreak https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113006#post113006 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113006#post113006 Just caught a bit of this, and here’s the issue that really gets me.

How long has English been living in Wellington for now?

You’d have thought at least some of the accent would’ve worn off.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 16:02:26 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113003#post113003 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113003#post113003 Thu, 28 May 2009 15:53:03 +1200 Terry Baucher https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113001#post113001 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=113001#post113001 All seems pretty minor if I can be honest except that god awful GUTTING of the Super Fund. It will mean the fund will be smaller, be available later, and cover a lower portion of payments meaning more will have to be made up from taxation if entitlements are to… ]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 15:48:04 +1200 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112982#post112982 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112982#post112982

I wait to see details of the $2b "reprioritisation" in spending as to how those priorities have worked out as well.

Yeah, that bit makes me *very* twitchy. It's so...non-specific, with such a large amount of money.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 14:47:04 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112980#post112980 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112980#post112980 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:35:37 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112978#post112978 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112978#post112978 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:33:31 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112977#post112977 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112977#post112977 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:30:34 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112976#post112976 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112976#post112976 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:30:20 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112973#post112973 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112973#post112973 I see tax cuts don't stimulate the economy after all and apparently it's not ok to run a deficit. Oh well, at least we don't have an arrogant out of touch govt any more.

I learned about the evils of retrenchment and Gordon Coates in 5th form history — did…

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 14:24:24 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112970#post112970 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112970#post112970 Super Fund: "The automatic contributions are likely to be suspended for 11 years"

11 years! Fucken hell!

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 14:09:03 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112969#post112969 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112969#post112969 Full details from Farrar up now.
Still reading...

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/the_2009_budget.html

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 14:05:37 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112965#post112965 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112965#post112965 Trevor had some leaks the other day on the Red Alert blog. It would be sad if the slashing of modern apprenticeships and trade training was true.
They sometimes blog from the House. I wonder if they will during the Budget debate.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 13:26:22 +1200 Sam F https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112955#post112955 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112955#post112955 Once again Danyl has scooped them all ]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 12:24:19 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112954#post112954 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112954#post112954 Watching the body language and facial expressions of John Key and Bill English yesterday, I got a bad feeling.
It got worse when I listened to what came out of their mouths.
If I know nothing about these guys I would assume that Bill was a politician and Jon Key…

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 12:22:27 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112930#post112930 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112930#post112930

Couldn't we lock the clowns in..?

Syn·o·vate [sin-uh-vayt, sin-oh-vayt] – verb intransitive

1. See also bossnapping.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 11:33:53 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112927#post112927 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112927#post112927

Couldn't we lock the clowns in..?

We will, comrade, we will. As soon as our Glorious Socialist Revolution is complete we will send these reactionaries to appropriate "education centres".

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 11:25:44 +1200 Lyndon Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112926#post112926 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112926#post112926 Nice website. Let's trade links.

Budget 2009 – Scoop Full Coverage

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 11:22:19 +1200 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112924#post112924 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112924#post112924 Parliament TV – commentators come after, not before or interrupting the main thingy... ]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 11:14:37 +1200 simon g https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112915#post112915 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112915#post112915 I look forward to my annual hurling of shoe at TV/radio, when presenter turns to pundit and asks:

"Are you expecting any surprises in the budget?"

Er ...

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 10:58:52 +1200 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112914#post112914 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112914#post112914 Thu, 28 May 2009 10:57:37 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112911#post112911 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112911#post112911

I looked over at Kiwiblog, but with DPF in the lockup, it's just the clowns in at the moment.

Thankfully DPF doesn't need to worry about leaving his site unmonitored, as he doesn't seem to have a moderation policy.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 10:54:50 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112901#post112901 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112901#post112901 Elsewhere, at The Standard lprent feasts on Key and English contradicting each other yet again, and Eddie offers a couple of Budget predictions.

I looked over at Kiwiblog, but with DPF in the lockup, it's just the clowns in at the moment.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 10:45:52 +1200 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112891#post112891 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112891#post112891 I made a prediction in another thread...

I said I suspect we could wave bye-bye to the $1000 join-up incentive for Kiwisaver.

I hope I'm wrong.

]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 10:15:25 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112882#post112882 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/talk-budget-09/?p=112882#post112882 Thu, 28 May 2009 09:58:19 +1200